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Post by chinmusic on Aug 24, 2021 13:08:36 GMT -8
The PAC-12 driven alliance will entail a collaborative effort from the three Power-5 conferences in both athletics and academics. Call the member schools traditionalists that prefer the collegiate competition/academic model as opposed to the SEC/NFL model recently announced with the addition of Texas and Oklahoma.
The PAC-12 will announce their decision on any member expansion next week. Apparently that topic has been under recent discussion.
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Post by Werebeaver on Aug 24, 2021 14:54:55 GMT -8
The PAC-12 driven alliance will entail a collaborative effort from the three Power-5 conferences in both athletics and academics. Call the member schools traditionalists that prefer the collegiate competition/academic model as opposed to the SEC/NFL model recently announced with the addition of Texas and Oklahoma. The PAC-12 will announce their decision on any member expansion next week. Apparently that topic has been under recent discussion. IF (big IF) they are interested in adding teams... Pac-16 West Division (the old Pac-8) UW, WSU, OSU, uo, CAL, STAN UCLA, USC. East Division UT, CU, UA, ASU, KU, KSU, OKST, ISU. Admittedly, this probably doesn't pencil out from a strictly TV/markets POV and if that's all that matters forget about it. It does have a nice symmetry. I see no interest from the conference Presidents in BSU, BYU, UNLV or Hawaii. And if they're interesting in killing the Big XII for good, this would do it. Former NFL HC Dave Wannstedt spins the following scenario: www.saturdaydownsouth.com/college-football/fox-sports-analyst-dave-wannstedt-says-several-big-12-teams-on-the-verge-of-finding-new-conferences/amp/Oklahoma State and Kansas State to Pac-12 Kansas and Iowa State to B1G WVU to ACC |
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Post by chinmusic on Aug 24, 2021 15:09:20 GMT -8
Word on the street: The school with maybe the most appeal to the PAC is TCU. Two good reasons, 1) TCU Academics are P-12 worthy. 2) TCU opens up the Texas talent pool (Recruiting). "If you play there, you can recruit there".
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Post by shelby on Aug 24, 2021 15:28:21 GMT -8
Extra ' first hand' word on the street ;
" no need for a contract ". - WHAT ? A handshake deal for nothing that has been done before - in response to a threat from the SEC, whose only intent is to bury you ?
I hope that was just 'public speak ' !
There better be a complete plan with strategies , tactics and timely actions - ALL TIED TO A STRONGLY WORDED CONTRACT !
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 24, 2021 16:03:05 GMT -8
Word on the street: The school with maybe the most appeal to the PAC is TCU. Two good reasons, 1) TCU Academics are P-12 worthy. 2) TCU opens up the Texas talent pool (Recruiting). "If you play there, you can recruit there". TCU academics are not Big Ten or Pac-12 worthy. Division 1 schools in Texas that are Big Ten or Pac-12 worthy (academically) in general order of academics: Texas Rice Baylor Houston Texas Tech TCU has worse academics than North Texas or Texas-El Paso (UTEP). No. TCU can go play with the other quasi-colleges in the SEC. Hard pass. |
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Post by damnstraight on Aug 24, 2021 16:03:48 GMT -8
Word on the street: The school with maybe the most appeal to the PAC is TCU. Two good reasons, 1) TCU Academics are P-12 worthy. 2) TCU opens up the Texas talent pool (Recruiting). "If you play there, you can recruit there". I would doubt that. Don't think the PAC is interested in church affiliated schools and a small, private, church affiliated school, even if it's located in Texas, does not fit the PAC-12 model. |
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Post by chinmusic on Aug 24, 2021 23:19:10 GMT -8
LOL - US News and World Report annual rankings of Colleges and Universities.
TCU ranked 80th
Oregon ranked 103rd
Oregon State ranked 153rd
Yo Wilky, maybe the boys on the street have a point.
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Post by beavs6 on Aug 25, 2021 4:47:16 GMT -8
I think TCU’s biggest obstacle to joining the PAC-12 is the religious affiliation.
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Post by ochobeavo on Aug 25, 2021 8:48:41 GMT -8
whatever happens with the diverse geography ' Pac'(ific) has gotta go....in the new conference name If the Big 10 actually has 14 teams than why not keep the Pac? It can just go down with other sports things that make zero sense like Utah Jazz (yes I know they were in N.O.) or Los Angeles Lakers or don't swing on a 3-0 count with a lead or why would anyone listen to Stephen A. Smith on purpose? |
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Post by Werebeaver on Aug 25, 2021 10:05:24 GMT -8
LOL - US News and World Report annual rankings of Colleges and Universities. TCU ranked 80th Oregon ranked 103rd Oregon State ranked 153rd Yo Wilky, maybe the boys on the street have a point. USNWR ranking methodology = garbage in, garbage out. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 25, 2021 12:32:44 GMT -8
LOL - US News and World Report annual rankings of Colleges and Universities. TCU ranked 80th Oregon ranked 103rd Oregon State ranked 153rd Yo Wilky, maybe the boys on the street have a point. TCU is not a research university and is not a ultra-premier pre-med/medical school like Baylor. (The Big Ten loves their medical schools, and Baylor would have the third-best medical school in in the Big Ten, if they joined. Baylor would be about fourth in the Pac-12, behind Stanford, UCLA and Washington.) Some of the U.S. News & World Report's data points are to paraphrase "percentage of graduates who donate to the school" and "what students think of the school and the staff." The students may love Texas Christian and may donate to Texas Christian, but that does not make it a great school. The best Division 1 schools in Texas are in order: Texas, Rice, Texas A&M (forgot them in my earlier post), Baylor, Houston, Texas Tech, North Texas, UTEP and TCU. And the gulf between a TCU and UTEP is deeper than the gulf between Houston and UTEP. If the Pac-12 would waive its current religious exemption, which it probably should, schools like Baylor and Rice check a lot of boxes. Otherwise, the best in Texas are Houston and Texas Tech. Texas Christian is not a good school. |
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Post by chinmusic on Aug 27, 2021 11:53:56 GMT -8
I prefer the course the conference took - NO expansion.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Aug 27, 2021 15:44:42 GMT -8
I prefer the course the conference took - NO expansion. It would be nice to get to 16, so that we could be in the same division as the Southern California schools. I would like it, if the Big Ten could get to the same number. |
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Post by seastape on Aug 29, 2021 10:41:08 GMT -8
I prefer the course the conference took - NO expansion. I was happy to hear that, as well. For me, if expansion waters down revenue for the teams, there's no point. Frankly, no one in the Midwest that would be willing to join the Pac 12 would expand revenue, so...there really is no point. |
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