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Post by chinmusic on Aug 14, 2021 23:02:48 GMT -8
Spencer Green, a 6-3, 185 pound R/R that pitches and plays in the infield has committed to OSU. Spencer is entering his Junior year at Richland, WA. in the Tri-Cities area. We have a few numbers on Spencer - 92 mph infield velo, 7.32 Sixty speed, and 89 mph exit velo.
Pitching, his fastball velocity is 85-86, CB 70-73, CH 80-82. His spin rates are high, 2,441 on the heater.
His summer team is Reign Sports 16u.
There is very little information on him and I'm uncertain to what OSU has in mind for him position wise. - I believe he is an invited walk-on.
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Post by ag87 on Aug 15, 2021 8:47:44 GMT -8
Bryce Fehmel?
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Post by chinmusic on Aug 15, 2021 14:15:46 GMT -8
Walk-ons are like Forrest Gump's box of chocolates - you never know what you're going to get.
I would love a Fehmel comparison but from my vantage point, there really isn't one here.
Fehmel was well known both in prep baseball at Agoura and on the summer circuit. Bryce was an All CIF-Southern Section SS and All City player by the L.A. Daily News. He was Agoura Highs "closer" - Agoura would bring him in to pitch the 7th, or 6th and 7th innings in most games. He was money for his team.
Fehmel was being recruited by some good D-1 programs. He connected with OSU and our coaches so we signed him.
We'll find out more about Spencer in the coming weeks as he emerges from under the radar.
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Post by cake on Aug 17, 2021 10:20:15 GMT -8
It'd be nice if he throws strikes like Fehmel, that's for sure.
But at 16 years old, if the 92 mph infield velo is accurate and I have no reason to believe it's wrong, 86 off the mound projects to a much higher ceiling than Fehmel had in terms of velocity. Compare to recent commit David Grewe, who was throwing ~82-84 at the same age. Now up to ~92-93 mph. I could see Green solidly in the mid 90s if he develops properly and considering Rich Dorman seems to have a thing for velo, I'm betting they think he's got that kind of potential.
And I looked at his tape swinging the bat. No offense to the kid, but he's definitely a pitching prospect.
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Post by chinmusic on Aug 17, 2021 13:20:17 GMT -8
I think, Dorman to date has shown several personal preferences in recruiting pitchers.
1. He is attracted to big frames - he likes physical size but not at the expense of pitchability.
2. He likes velocity - now or later. If he can project an increase in velo, he will recruit a mid-high 80's kid.
3. He values spin rate - if a recruit can spin it, the prospect of good movemment on the fastball and breaking balls is there.
4. I'm not sure how important command is to him at the prep level. He has recruited a couple of flame throwers that were wilder than a Wolverine (Hambley and Quinn). Velo trumped command with both of those guys.
On the subject of Velocity. High velo is only effective with good movement. Velo without movement is BP for hitters. What the baseball does from 3' in front of the plate, through the zone and into the catcher's glove is all important. Spin rate and velocity combined are what gets a 60 or 70 grade on a fastball. If it sinks, runs or jumps, the degree of difficulty in making square contact increases dramatically for the hitter. A fastball at 90 with good movement is superior to a "heavy" or dead fastball without movement at 95.
To be effective, "Velo needs life"
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Aug 18, 2021 7:10:29 GMT -8
Thats all great as long as the "wild" can be tamed, and free passes aren't given out like candy. Command is realtive I guess, but imo, it seems pretty damn important! Whats the scoring rate of walking the leadoff guy in an inning?...... I know it's high.
OSU baseball was built on pitching and defense. The big arms are intriguing, but give me the Nickersons, Fehmels, Gundersons,and Andrew Moores.....obviously a kid needs to have certain metrics to even be considered but you want the guys who will battle and be mentally tough when the chips are down......not sure how Dorman measures that or what kind of premium he puts on it.
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Post by chinmusic on Aug 18, 2021 12:40:27 GMT -8
Canham and Dorman weigh the "competitive" componenent highly. You have to have it at our level of premium D-1 baseball. We have seen some real Bulldogs on the bump - Kevin Abel, Bryce Fehmel and Dylan Pearce come to mind. If you can't bow your neck and bear down in a jam, you won't last long at OSU. A couple of Uber-competitors on their way in 2023 are Trent Carraway and Ryan Speshyock - Those two are on the attack warming up in the pen.
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Post by chinmusic on Aug 18, 2021 12:41:15 GMT -8
Canham and Dorman weigh the "competitive" componenent highly. You have to have it at our level of premium D-1 baseball. We have seen some real Bulldogs on the bump - Kevin Abel, Bryce Fehmel and Dylan Pearce come to mind. If you can't bow your neck and bear down in a jam, you won't last long at OSU. A couple of Uber-competitors on their way in 2023 are Trent Carraway and Ryan Speshyock - Those two are on the attack warming up in the pen.
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