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Post by jdogge on May 31, 2016 13:04:16 GMT -8
Starting Pitching:
Fehmel, Tweed, Martinek.
Rasmussen is on a 15 month recovery. It would be to his benefit to come back for one year to prove he has recovered. It will be the difference between drated within the first ten or second ten rounds.
Beyond that?
KJ at 1st; Madrigal at 2nd; Morrison at short; Grenier/Gretler at 3rd;
Catcher?
Outfield: Nobach, Donahue, Hamilton? Anderson?
DH: King.
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Post by rafer on May 31, 2016 13:21:34 GMT -8
Starting Pitching: Fehmel, Tweed, Martinek. Rasmussen is on a 15 month recovery. It would be to his benefit to come back for one year to prove he has recovered. It will be the difference between drated within the first ten or second ten rounds. Beyond that? KJ at 1st; Madrigal at 2nd; Morrison at short; Grenier/Gretler at 3rd; Catcher? Outfield: Nobach, Donahue, Hamilton? Anderson? DH: King. |
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Post by rafer on May 31, 2016 13:23:05 GMT -8
Starting Pitching: Fehmel, Tweed, Martinek. Rasmussen is on a 15 month recovery. It would be to his benefit to come back for one year to prove he has recovered. It will be the difference between drated within the first ten or second ten rounds. Beyond that? KJ at 1st; Madrigal at 2nd; Morrison at short; Grenier/Gretler at 3rd; Catcher? Outfield: Nobach, Donahue, Hamilton? Anderson? DH: King. I heard someone on the radio suggesting that Morrison will not be back? I think he needs another year to grow, but maybe he will leave?? |
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Post by jdogge on May 31, 2016 13:31:23 GMT -8
I heard someone on the radio suggesting that Morrison will not be back? I think he needs another year to grow, but maybe he will leave?? That would be unfortunate. .284 in D1 won't get you very far in the pros. |
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Post by ochobeavo on May 31, 2016 14:02:58 GMT -8
Why wouldn't Heimlich be in the starting rotation next season? Martinak gave us all of 2 2/3 innings this year.
FWIW Parker said multiple times Sunday that that was likely Morrison's last game at Goss...
Elliott Cary should be back next year in the OF (his surgery was last July).
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Post by jdogge on May 31, 2016 14:52:10 GMT -8
Why wouldn't Heimlich be in the starting rotation next season? Martinak gave us all of 2 2/3 innings this year. FWIW Parker said multiple times Sunday that that was likely Morrison's last game at Goss... Elliott Cary should be back next year in the OF (his surgery was last July). I brain-farted on Heimlich. Sorry. Martinek was still within the LRS recovery timeline: it has been extended to 15-18 months. So you would suggest Heimlich, Fehmel and Tweed as starters? Where do we fit Thompson? I can't believe that, with an ERA in the upper 4s, he would leave for pro ball. Cary in the OF with whom? Does Parker know for a fact that Morrison is gone? I would hope he's wrong; Terver could use another year. |
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Post by eugenedave on May 31, 2016 19:49:10 GMT -8
Starting Pitching: Fehmel, Tweed, Martinek. Rasmussen is on a 15 month recovery. It would be to his benefit to come back for one year to prove he has recovered. It will be the difference between drated within the first ten or second ten rounds. Beyond that? KJ at 1st; Madrigal at 2nd; Morrison at short; Grenier/Gretler at 3rd; Catcher? Outfield: Nobach, Donahue, Hamilton? Anderson? DH: King. I suspect Morrison, Hamilton, King, and Nobach will all leave, if they are drafted. Several of them should stay for another year, but they almost never do. In the bullpen Church, Pomeroy, Thompson, Engelbrekt, and Kelly are all draft eligible. Hard to say if any of them would sign, but I'd bet several will. Starting rotation for 2017: Heimlich-Fehmel-Martinek. Tweet as the midweek guy. Pencil in Raz for Sunday's, if and when he gets healthy. Catcher is a key position, and I have no idea who will fill Logan's shoes. Infield: KJ, Gretler, Grenier, Madrigal. Outfield: Donahue, Anderson, Kwan. |
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Post by jdogge on May 31, 2016 19:55:07 GMT -8
Starting Pitching: Fehmel, Tweed, Martinek. Rasmussen is on a 15 month recovery. It would be to his benefit to come back for one year to prove he has recovered. It will be the difference between drated within the first ten or second ten rounds. Beyond that? KJ at 1st; Madrigal at 2nd; Morrison at short; Grenier/Gretler at 3rd; Catcher? Outfield: Nobach, Donahue, Hamilton? Anderson? DH: King. I suspect Morrison, Hamilton, King, and Nobach will all leave, if they are drafted. Several of them should stay for another year, but they almost never do. In the bullpen Church, Pomeroy, Thompson, Engelbrekt, and Kelly are all draft eligible. Hard to say if any of them would sign, but I'd bet several will. Starting rotation for 2017: Heimlich-Fehmel-Martinek. Tweet as the midweek guy. Pencil in Raz for Sunday's, if and when he gets healthy. Catcher is a key position, and I have no idea who will fill Logan's shoes. Infield: KJ, Gretler, Grenier, Madrigal. Outfield: Donahue, Anderson, Kwan. The potential defections surprise me. If chosen beyond the 12th round, they have virtually no shot at the bigs. I would hope that those taken outside of the tenth would stick around to improve their draft stock. But they are kids and, at that age, they're all convinced that they're going to beat the odds. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 31, 2016 22:51:18 GMT -8
Starting Pitching: Fehmel, Tweed, Martinek. Rasmussen is on a 15 month recovery. It would be to his benefit to come back for one year to prove he has recovered. It will be the difference between drated within the first ten or second ten rounds. Beyond that? KJ at 1st; Madrigal at 2nd; Morrison at short; Grenier/Gretler at 3rd; Catcher? Outfield: Nobach, Donahue, Hamilton? Anderson? DH: King. I suspect Morrison, Hamilton, King, and Nobach will all leave, if they are drafted. Several of them should stay for another year, but they almost never do. In the bullpen Church, Pomeroy, Thompson, Engelbrekt, and Kelly are all draft eligible. Hard to say if any of them would sign, but I'd bet several will. Starting rotation for 2017: Heimlich-Fehmel-Martinek. Tweet as the midweek guy. Pencil in Raz for Sunday's, if and when he gets healthy. Catcher is a key position, and I have no idea who will fill Logan's shoes. Infield: KJ, Gretler, Grenier, Madrigal. Outfield: Donahue, Anderson, Kwan. 15 months means that Rasmussen is out until the 2016 College World Series, at the earliest. With a medical redshirt, he will probably be a redshirt junior in 2018, if he comes back in 2018. I am unsure, if sixth years are granted, like in football, but he would probably be in line for one, missing all of 2017 and most of 2016. |
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Post by thewizard on Jun 1, 2016 5:57:21 GMT -8
Why wouldn't Morrison leave? He is projected to go somewhere in rounds 3-5! I fully believe he is a player that is all about himself. He will take the money and run. Logan is a different story. I believe that he is in the mold of a Wetzler and MattyB. He likes the experience of being a Beaver and it is all about being a Beaver. I would not be surprised if Logan decided to stay for another shot at a National Championship. Why isn't anybody considering CBoy moving back to 2nd base? or Hamilton at 2nd base? With Cary coming back, I bet you see CBoy back at 2nd Base. I honestly only see Morrison and Max getting drafted. You will probably see Larnach come of age next year (he already looks like a MLB player) and he will be in the OF on a regular basis.
My predictions:
C: Ice (He will come back just my gut feeling)
1B: Harrison
2B: Donahue
SS: Madrigal
3B: Grenier
LF: Nobach
CF: Cary
RF: Larnach
Just my 2 cents.
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Post by ochobeavo on Jun 1, 2016 8:15:48 GMT -8
i like that line-up Ozzie. I think Cary could be a pretty special player/high ceiling, was starting to put it together before the end of last season. We really need KJ to take another step forward for next season. The freshman will be much better.
We should return some solid bench pieces too based on that line-up above. Kwan can play D and will gives us Petey level situational bunting skills, Hamilton has some versatility, Atwood can contribute., would guess Anderson or Gillette get lost in the shuffle unless they can start hitting consistently. If Logan comes back, we need to develop someone to give him a breather (or at least enable him to move to DH without killing us defensively).
Pitching wise- Fehmel and Heimlich give us 2. So between Tweedt, Thompson, Martinek, couple of our pen arms (Britton/Pomeroy?) we need to find 2 more starters. I'm not seeing anything from Jake that makes me think he's the 3rd guy by now. The Verburg kid from LO sounds promising and is putting up crazy numbers but all of our kids put up awesome HS numbers.
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Post by abureid on Jun 1, 2016 10:31:16 GMT -8
As far as catchers I see Alex O'Rourke and Zak Tayler, a couple of freshmen listed as catchers on the roster. Nothing on the list of 2017 recruits. Having KJ do anything other than spot relief is not going to help him offensively. I have to think that PC believes that one of these two will fill the bill, otherwise he would have recruited someone.
We really have been spoiled rotten with catchers. Mitch, Jake, Logan... that is a short list of some really good college catchers.
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Post by rafer on Jun 1, 2016 10:56:41 GMT -8
I heard someone on the radio suggesting that Morrison will not be back? I think he needs another year to grow, but maybe he will leave?? That would be unfortunate. .284 in D1 won't get you very far in the pros. YA, I agree, hope that doesn't happen, it would be unfortunate for him to go pro and end up out of BB in two years. I just don't see him in the majors at all, great Beav and college player, but not big league material IMHO. I wish him luck whatever he does. |
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Post by rafer on Jun 1, 2016 11:06:12 GMT -8
Starting Pitching: Fehmel, Tweed, Martinek. Rasmussen is on a 15 month recovery. It would be to his benefit to come back for one year to prove he has recovered. It will be the difference between drated within the first ten or second ten rounds. Beyond that? KJ at 1st; Madrigal at 2nd; Morrison at short; Grenier/Gretler at 3rd; Catcher? Outfield: Nobach, Donahue, Hamilton? Anderson? DH: King. Only saw Martinek twice, and he couldn't hit the backstop given three chances, wild as a march hare!. I think he has some skills, obviously had a great profile coming in, and looks great getting off the bus but wow, he couldn't get anything going in the games I saw him pitch, walk, walk, HBP!! I get that he was injured etc., but he was miles away form being in any rotation, that would be a huge turnaround, I'm all for it, but there was a reason we never saw in any crunch time or save situation. Good luck, he would be a great addition, just will be a stretch. |
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Post by abureid on Jun 1, 2016 11:23:48 GMT -8
Trying to guess who will be the rotation at the start, midway and end of a season is like trying to pick lottery numbers... and about as successful. Injuries not withstanding (and pitchers are prone to breaking due to the stresses on the elbow and shoulder) this is such a mental part of the game.
Some kids have all the tools and none of the brain cells, others have limited skills but have ice water running through their veins. Our NC teams were short on talent and long on toughness (relatively speaking). I am guessing from observation that PC and NY recruit as many strong arms as possible then just throw them to the batters and see who sticks. It is the same thing that MLB and MiLB have been doing for 100 years. Load up on pitchers and see who can get guys out. Pitchers may be your most important position, but they are also the most disposable and least reliable.
Now to prove myself wrong
Fehmel, Heimlich, Verburg/Martinek, and some other guy who will come out of nowhere. Rasmussen will be the 2017 CWS MVP with two wins, starting the season late.
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