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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 1, 2021 21:30:54 GMT -8
Savage had a good scouting report on the Beavers. For example, Ober is seeing breaking ball after breaking ball, thus guaranteeing he'll go 0 for the series. Savage has made Canham look like a scrub in the first two games. I have been very impressed with Savage's coaching thus far. It seems like everyone on UCLA has bought in, and he seems to have a good relationship with his guys. I do not get that feeling from Oregon State. It looks like UCLA is relaxed and having fun, and it looks like Oregon State is so afraid of making mistakes that several of the players are cracking under the pressure. Ober was like Pedro Cerrano two years ago. I thought that he was past this? Maybe it is just the quality of the breaking pitches that he has been seeing from UCLA? At least that is what I am hoping......... |
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Post by badwack on May 2, 2021 4:33:21 GMT -8
When you think about it there might be only 1 or 2 guys with a chance in hell of driving the ball with runners on. Donkey and maybe Melton. Fuchs did drive the ball yesterday. But when Armstrong gets into to his K mode he is done. There is reason Ober is always seeing a breaking ball on first pitch. I always think it is a miracle when Casey actually makes contact. With that in mind not bunting with one out with on runner on 3rd was nutz.
That was one great performance by Cooper. That was a ++ Friday night performance.
Still don't think Bruin's Pitching was that great nor was their hitting. They were barely better.
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Post by speakthetruth on May 2, 2021 5:16:35 GMT -8
Hate to say it but are you really surprised? Seems to me all year on offense we have been hesitant, unsure, bat on the shoulder hoping for a ball, swinging like we are scared we might hurt the ball. Maybe we just ain't that good.
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Post by irimi on May 2, 2021 9:01:03 GMT -8
Savage had a good scouting report on the Beavers. For example, Ober is seeing breaking ball after breaking ball, thus guaranteeing he'll go 0 for the series. Savage has made Canham look like a scrub in the first two games. I have been very impressed with Savage's coaching thus far. It seems like everyone on UCLA has bought in, and he seems to have a good relationship with his guys. I do not get that feeling from Oregon State. It looks like UCLA is relaxed and having fun, and it looks like Oregon State is so afraid of making mistakes that several of the players are cracking under the pressure. Ober was like Pedro Cerrano two years ago. I thought that he was past this? Maybe it is just the quality of the breaking pitches that he has been seeing from UCLA? At least that is what I am hoping......... Wouldn’t you sort of expect that, given his 16 years of work? Mitch is learning on the job, just like every coach ever. I don’t know how you measure whether the team is having fun or not. Certainly, winning games is fun and losing is hard. I expected Ober and Claunch to light things up this year with their bat. I don’t see any progress with hitting for them or consistency. Likewise, PJ is a mystery, and KMac should be making better progress. I’m not convinced that mixing up the lineup as often as is happening is really good for the player. Maybe they are playing tight because they fear being replaced. |
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Post by beaver56 on May 2, 2021 9:08:11 GMT -8
The inconsistencies on the lineup is confounding and to the players has to be a nightmare. Case in point just these 2 games. Boyd and Gretler get the start Friday night, both get 2 hits, neither is in the starting lineup the next day. Both nights facing a right hander. Hard to get in groove and stay consistent hitting when there's no consistency
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Post by irimi on May 2, 2021 9:47:02 GMT -8
The inconsistencies on the lineup is confounding and to the players has to be a nightmare. Case in point just these 2 games. Boyd and Gretler get the start Friday night, both get 2 hits, neither is in the starting lineup the next day. Both nights facing a right hander. Hard to get in groove and stay consistent hitting when there's no consistency In the pregame interview, MC told Parker that what he is looking for most is consistency. Kind of ironic, huh? |
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Post by ricke71 on May 2, 2021 11:21:24 GMT -8
Savage has made Canham look like a scrub in the first two games. I have been very impressed with Savage's coaching thus far. It seems like everyone on UCLA has bought in, and he seems to have a good relationship with his guys. I do not get that feeling from Oregon State. It looks like UCLA is relaxed and having fun, and it looks like Oregon State is so afraid of making mistakes that several of the players are cracking under the pressure. Ober was like Pedro Cerrano two years ago. I thought that he was past this? Maybe it is just the quality of the breaking pitches that he has been seeing from UCLA? At least that is what I am hoping......... Wouldn’t you sort of expect that, given his 16 years of work? Mitch is learning on the job, just like every coach ever. I don’t know how you measure whether the team is having fun or not. Certainly, winning games is fun and losing is hard. I expected Ober and Claunch to light things up this year with their bat. I don’t see any progress with hitting for them or consistency. Likewise, PJ is a mystery, and KMac should be making better progress. I’m not convinced that mixing up the lineup as often as is happening is really good for the player. Maybe they are playing tight because they fear being replaced. The "season" of 2020 cut off just as PAC 12 play was to begin. Mitch Canham (and the rest of the coaching staff) coached in their FIRST conference PAC-12 game ever, about 45 days ago. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 2, 2021 14:47:50 GMT -8
Wouldn’t you sort of expect that, given his 16 years of work? Mitch is learning on the job, just like every coach ever. I don’t know how you measure whether the team is having fun or not. Certainly, winning games is fun and losing is hard. I expected Ober and Claunch to light things up this year with their bat. I don’t see any progress with hitting for them or consistency. Likewise, PJ is a mystery, and KMac should be making better progress. I’m not convinced that mixing up the lineup as often as is happening is really good for the player. Maybe they are playing tight because they fear being replaced. The "season" of 2020 cut off just as PAC 12 play was to begin. Mitch Canham (and the rest of the coaching staff) coached in their FIRST conference PAC-12 game ever, about 45 days ago. PB started 2019 14-4 in the Pac-12. MC's 11-7. |
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Post by ricke71 on May 2, 2021 15:51:11 GMT -8
The "season" of 2020 cut off just as PAC 12 play was to begin. Mitch Canham (and the rest of the coaching staff) coached in their FIRST conference PAC-12 game ever, about 45 days ago. PB started 2019 14-4 in the Pac-12. MC's 11-7. Pat Bailey observed PAC-12 baseball every season, beginning in 2008 at the elbow of a HOF head coach, as preparation for his single season as interim head coach (2019). My thinking was that Mitch Canham, having not 'sniffed' PAC-12 Baseball since his college days, is lacking certain knowledge (and deserves at least a few months to 'learn') that comes from: a.) watching Pitcher x, y, or z (perhaps since their freshman season) on the opposing PAC-12 teams b.) ditto for opposing PAC-12 team's hitters. c.) ditto for opposing teams base-runners ...or...outfielders arms...or...opposing teams catchers throws to 2B on attempted steals - and more. Learning curve is real. And that's why it's a bit of a reach to hire a HC with no college coaching experience, nor any PAC-12 coaching history. And, that also why it's apples to oranges to compare PB's and MC's inaugural PAC-12 head coaching performances. |
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Post by irimi on May 2, 2021 20:23:55 GMT -8
The "season" of 2020 cut off just as PAC 12 play was to begin. Mitch Canham (and the rest of the coaching staff) coached in their FIRST conference PAC-12 game ever, about 45 days ago. PB started 2019 14-4 in the Pac-12. MC's 11-7. The Pac 12 is crazy good this year. I don’t think it has been this good in awhile. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on May 3, 2021 6:26:27 GMT -8
The "season" of 2020 cut off just as PAC 12 play was to begin. Mitch Canham (and the rest of the coaching staff) coached in their FIRST conference PAC-12 game ever, about 45 days ago. PB started 2019 14-4 in the Pac-12. MC's 11-7. Trade catchers and see what those records would be. |
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Post by Ruh Roh Beav on May 3, 2021 6:40:14 GMT -8
PB started 2019 14-4 in the Pac-12. MC's 11-7. The Pac 12 is crazy good this year. I don’t think it has been this good in awhile. Hmmmm not sure I’m buying that.....maybe Wilky can provide analysis of non-league comparison. There’s four or five solid clubs but usually the Pac has a couple of great teams and a few solid squads. The Beavs haven’t won a series against a playoff caliber team yet this year....had chances to and should have but still haven’t. I’m hoping that they can get hot at the end of Pac 12 play and use that to make a run in the post-season. |
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Post by beavaristotle on May 3, 2021 7:09:02 GMT -8
PB started 2019 14-4 in the Pac-12. MC's 11-7. The Pac 12 is crazy good this year. I don’t think it has been this good in awhile. I don’t think the league is crazy good, I think the teams are crazy equal but overall talent is down in the league |
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Post by beavermd on May 3, 2021 8:18:55 GMT -8
The "season" of 2020 cut off just as PAC 12 play was to begin. Mitch Canham (and the rest of the coaching staff) coached in their FIRST conference PAC-12 game ever, about 45 days ago. PB started 2019 14-4 in the Pac-12. MC's 11-7. Pat Bailey also had the benefit of having the best player ever to play baseball at Oregon State. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 3, 2021 11:08:51 GMT -8
The Pac 12 is crazy good this year. I don’t think it has been this good in awhile. Hmmmm not sure I’m buying that.....maybe Wilky can provide analysis of non-league comparison. There’s four or five solid clubs but usually the Pac has a couple of great teams and a few solid squads. The Beavs haven’t won a series against a playoff caliber team yet this year....had chances to and should have but still haven’t. I’m hoping that they can get hot at the end of Pac 12 play and use that to make a run in the post-season. Record-wise, the Pac-12 is the best that it has been since 2015 (when the conference was deep but not so much at the top) and 2012 (4 teams in Supers, 3 hosting supers, #3 Arizona beat #1 UCLA in the winners' bracket in Omaha en route to a National Championship). Arizona is really the pride of the Pac-12 right now with a two-game lead on everyone else in the Pac-12 race. The Wildcats won the Tourney in Frisco against Dallas Baptist, Missouri and Oklahoma, beating all three teams by four runs in every game. Dallas Baptist is two games up on everyone in the Missouri Valley Conference and likely a Tourney team. Missouri is 12th in the SEC right now, which likely means that the Tigers are the first team out in the SEC. (I say with only the smallest amount of sarcasm.) Oklahoma just won two-of-three against Oklahoma State (Oklahoma won the first game in Stillwater and then split in Norman). The Cowboys still look like a surefire two-seed at this point. Baseball America had Arizona as the #4 overall seed and that was before the Wildcats swept the Utes. Oregon looks like the second-best team in the Pac-12 at this point. Baseball America had them as the #11 overall seed before this weekend. I see the Ducks dropping two or three spots at most even with a weekend loss. Baseball America had Stanford as a host site. I am not sure that that is still true with the Cardinal splitting on the week. Maybe. Stanford is currently second in the Pac-12 standings, which is a big feather in the Cardinal's cap right now. Arizona plays Stanford at Sunken Diamond this weekend. Win that, and the Cardinal have an excellent shot of being announced as a host site. Where the Pac-12 really shines this year is in its depth. Six teams are solidly in right now. That would be the most since 2015. And they look to me like a better six than in 2015. Further, you could make a case for Washington State to join Arizona, Arizona State, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford and UCLA as the seventh team in from the Pac-12. 2015 was a rough six with more depth in teams 7-11 than this year. I don't think that this is a 2012 year with five obvious great teams at the top (and basically no one else 6-11). Maybe. We still have 26 days left for everything to sort itself out. |
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