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Post by beavaristotle on Mar 27, 2021 20:14:50 GMT -8
They are good but not scary good. We rebound with them and we have a good shot.
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Post by shelby on Mar 27, 2021 20:47:18 GMT -8
Yep, noticed that Syracuse almost NEVER blocked out or had help under the glass . Houston got almost everything !
I think we can hang with them ...
GO BEAVERS !
One at a time !
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Post by beaverstever on Mar 27, 2021 21:25:15 GMT -8
Been trying to figure out how Houston got a 2 seed. They won a ton of games, but they play in the AAC, and so as it turns out, they won a lot of games against decent to bad teams. www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings2-1 in Quad 1 (Loss to #17 Texas Tech, Win @wichita State #71, Win @#65 SMU). The best team they beat prior to the post season in terms of NET is #50 Boise State. Honestly, with no fans in the stands, it's pretty silly to call a top 75 road win a "Quad 1", but the committee still sees it that way. In the tournament, they've faced #160 Cleveland State, #38 Rutgers, and a short-handed #40 Syracuse. The last two games are the toughest teams (per the NET) they've faced all year except for the 11 pt loss at Texas Tech to start the season. OSU has played many games against higher ranked teams, and beat them some of the time: #15 CU, #10 Loyala Chicago, #13 Tenn, #19 USC, #29 Ok State, #33 uo, #44 UA, and #46 UCLA ... and we know how in reality those numbers were low for the Pac-12 teams. OSU comes in far more battle-tested; that doesn't alway mean a lot, but it can. I'm not saying they are a paper tiger, but man, they don't look like what a 2 seed normally looks like. |
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Post by seastape on Mar 28, 2021 7:23:03 GMT -8
I appreciate the posts in this thread. As the eternal pessimist, I've been wondering what the heck we are going to do to stay with Houston. I feel a lot better after reading these posts.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Mar 28, 2021 7:37:44 GMT -8
I'm not the pessimist, but I was also feelin' it for this game. It's winnable.
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Post by irimi on Mar 28, 2021 8:25:06 GMT -8
1. Break their game with our defense.
2. Grab the boards.
3. Controlled offense.
4. Get them into foul trouble.
5. Win it at the line.
Pretty much what we’ve been doing.
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Post by beaverdreams on Mar 28, 2021 8:31:13 GMT -8
Houston looks very athletic, but I don't see a ton of discipline out there. I think Tinkle comes up with a game plan, and we're hitting our threes I think Beavs win.
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Post by beaverstever on Mar 28, 2021 8:35:28 GMT -8
I appreciate the posts in this thread. As the eternal pessimist, I've been wondering what the heck we are going to do to stay with Houston. I feel a lot better after reading these posts. Well,then I’ll add this. At the end of the game yesterday, Jarreau, who has been battling a hip injury, tweaked his hamstring and was limping badly and came out of the game for the duration. He won’t be 100% for sure. He’s their 5th year sr PG that leads the team in assists and steals, 3rd in scoring. Our defense gets a lot harder for them to navigate if he is limited physically. If that was my hamstring, I’d be done for weeks, but he is young so we will see. |
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Post by beaverinohio on Mar 28, 2021 9:20:15 GMT -8
I appreciate the posts in this thread. As the eternal pessimist, I've been wondering what the heck we are going to do to stay with Houston. I feel a lot better after reading these posts. Well,then I’ll add this. At the end of the game yesterday, Jarreau, who has been battling a hip injury, tweaked his hamstring and was limping badly and came out of the game for the duration. He won’t be 100% for sure. He’s their 5th year sr PG that leads the team in assists and steals, 3rd in scoring. Our defense gets a lot harder for them to navigate if he is limited physically. If that was my hamstring, I’d be done for weeks, but he is young so we will see. Jarreau was the key in Houston coming back against Rutgers. If he’s further injured, that sure doesn’t help them. They’re athletic and have good length coming in off the bench. Houston is more talented than Loyola IMO, but the Beavers can win this one. Not gonna be an easy one, but at this point in the tourney would we expect any to be? |
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Post by Beavcat on Mar 28, 2021 9:58:18 GMT -8
Here is why we win tomorrow:
In the tourney Houston has beaten #'s 15, 10 and 11 (an avg of 12) by an average margin of 17.33 pts. 17.33/12 = 1.44 pts per seed
The Beavs have beaten #'s 5, 4, and 8 (an avg of 5.67) by an average margin of 10.33 pts. 10.33/5.67 = 1.82 pts per seed
2+12/2 = 7 (avg seed of both OSU and UH) and 1.82-1.44 = 0.38 (difference in avg margin of victory per avg seed)
Therefor 7 avg seed x 0.38 avg margin of victory per avg seed = 2.66 margin of victory
We win by 2.66 points!!!
Simple (and completely bogus) math but Beavermobile would have appreciated it.
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Post by beavs6 on Mar 28, 2021 10:47:39 GMT -8
Here is why we win tomorrow: In the tourney Houston has beaten #'s 15, 10 and 11 (an avg of 12) by an average margin of 17.33 pts. 17.33/12 = 1.44 pts per seed The Beavs have beaten #'s 5, 4, and 8 (an avg of 5.67) by an average margin of 10.33 pts. 10.33/5.67 = 1.82 pts per seed 2+12/2 = 7 (avg seed of both OSU and UH) and 1.82-1.44 = 0.38 (difference in avg margin of victory per avg seed) Therefor 7 avg seed x 0.38 avg margin of victory per avg seed = 2.66 margin of victory We win by 2.66 points!!! Simple (and completely bogus) math but Beavermobile would have appreciated it. Beavermobile at best would have a blown mind. At worst,,,let’s just say NO MATH! and GO BEAVS!!! |
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Post by bucktoothvarmit on Mar 28, 2021 11:04:11 GMT -8
I appreciate the posts in this thread. As the eternal pessimist, I've been wondering what the heck we are going to do to stay with Houston. I feel a lot better after reading these posts. Well,then I’ll add this. At the end of the game yesterday, Jarreau, who has been battling a hip injury, tweaked his hamstring and was limping badly and came out of the game for the duration. He won’t be 100% for sure. He’s their 5th year sr PG that leads the team in assists and steals, 3rd in scoring. Our defense gets a lot harder for them to navigate if he is limited physically. If that was my hamstring, I’d be done for weeks, but he is young so we will see. "Houston, we (you) have a problem!" Go Beavs!!! |
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Post by wewantyoursoul on Mar 28, 2021 11:14:37 GMT -8
Hey guys! Houston alum/fan here! Just wanted to drop by and see what Beaver Nation was thinking about this game. I've got a bit of a unique perspective on this game. First off (Coog-shaded glasses on)... beaverstever... Houston lost @wichita State and beat Texas Tech on a neutral court. Be very careful of discounting this team. You can wonder all you want why they are seeded where they are, but when you take a long look at all of the metrics, they are seed appropriately. (Honestly, all of the seeding questions should revolve around the Big10 and the crapshow they put on.) There's a reason why each team that faces Houston ends up saying they were the most difficult defensive assignment of their season...it's engrained in the culture by Sampson. The Beavers have not played a team like this. (remember...wearing my Coog-shaded glasses <grin>) As for the WTF losses Houston had (ECU, Tulsa)... Bad shooting nights. Opponent played their best games of the year. It happened. It happened to you ten times in conference.  As for Jarreau...no hamstring issue. He was suffering from cramps. Expect him to be at peak form and wallpapered to Thompson. (glasses off) No matter how this game plays out, I'll be a happy camper. My daughter goes to OSU...so if chips fall the Beavers' way, I'll be happy that my monetary investment is moving on to the Final Four. If Houston wins, then, well, I'll be equally happy that my parent's investment is moving on to the Final Four. So for me, it's a win-win. Just hoping for a good game with good health for the winner moving on. From Happy Valley, Oregon...saying 'Go Coogs'!!! Also... Beavcat...love that math!!! |
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Post by lefty on Mar 28, 2021 13:01:51 GMT -8
Houston's coach Kelvin Sampson wins at all costs. He was forced out at Indiana and has paid his dues coaching in the NBA. It seems some schools have no since of integrity.
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Post by beaverstever on Mar 28, 2021 13:30:09 GMT -8
Hey guys! Houston alum/fan here! Just wanted to drop by and see what Beaver Nation was thinking about this game. I've got a bit of a unique perspective on this game. First off (Coog-shaded glasses on)... beaverstever ... Houston lost @wichita State and beat Texas Tech on a neutral court. Be very careful of discounting this team. You can wonder all you want why they are seeded where they are, but when you take a long look at all of the metrics, they are seed appropriately. (Honestly, all of the seeding questions should revolve around the Big10 and the crapshow they put on.) There's a reason why each team that faces Houston ends up saying they were the most difficult defensive assignment of their season...it's engrained in the culture by Sampson. The Beavers have not played a team like this. (remember...wearing my Coog-shaded glasses <grin>) As for the WTF losses Houston had (ECU, Tulsa)... Bad shooting nights. Opponent played their best games of the year. It happened. It happened to you ten times in conference. As for Jarreau...no hamstring issue. He was suffering from cramps. Expect him to be at peak form and wallpapered to Thompson. (glasses off) No matter how this game plays out, I'll be a happy camper. My daughter goes to OSU...so if chips fall the Beavers' way, I'll be happy that my monetary investment is moving on to the Final Four. If Houston wins, then, well, I'll be equally happy that my parent's investment is moving on to the Final Four. So for me, it's a win-win. Just hoping for a good game with good health for the winner moving on. From Happy Valley, Oregon...saying 'Go Coogs'!!! Also... Beavcat ...love that math!!! @wetantyoursoul - thanks for the correction, somehow I can't read your schedule properly! The seeding makes much more sense with the Texas Tech, albeit a small sample. I probably came across more disparaging than intended; Houston is a very good team, my point was more that 2 seeds usually have played a lot more Quad 1 games than Houston did in the regular season. Even Gonzaga, who didn't get much help from their conference for quality opponents this year, still managed 8 quad 1 games in prior to the postseason. So while Houston may indeed be the best team OSU has faced so far this year, I'm not convinced they will be significantly better than the teams we've faced to date. They might be the most balanced though in terms of a combination of really good defense plus explosive offense. Glad to hear Jarreau is ok! With his hip injury, I was worried that his body was compensating for the hip issue and led to putting more stress on other tendons. A healthy Jarreau is a bid deal for both you offense and defensive approaches. As for bad shooting nights, for some reason teams have been having those regularly against us in the post-season. We're hoping that continues  I too am happy for Houston; if feels really nostalgic to have two teams that were so great in the early 80s back on the big stage. And of course, I've always had a soft spot for your university giving my Blazers Clyde Drexler, who provided a lot of my favorite childhood basketball memories. We were also a cursed coin flip from getting Akeem; we mourn missing out on Jordan by picking Bowie, but it would have been moot if the coin flips the other way and we got Akeem! If you manage to get by us, you will be the team I want to see take home the hardware, and there's no close 2nd for me personally on that front. Thanks for weighing in - always great to have courteous fans from opponents helping us see beyond our orange tint |
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