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Post by Bodhisattva on Mar 18, 2021 16:18:44 GMT -8
I think one thing to keep in mind is Pac-12 officials call a much tighter game that the rest of country. It doesn't prepare the teams the way games will be called in the tournament. I hope the team can adapt and not focus on not getting the same calls against the defense that they are used to. They need to adjust to the physical play.
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Post by Ruh Roh Beav on Mar 18, 2021 17:16:32 GMT -8
I think one thing to keep in mind is Pac-12 officials call a much tighter game that the rest of country. It doesn't prepare the teams the way games will be called in the tournament. I hope the team can adapt and not focus on not getting the same calls against the defense that they are used to. They need to adjust to the physical play. That’s a great point.....hopefully coach T will enlighten our players on this |
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Post by speakthetruth on Mar 18, 2021 18:00:30 GMT -8
We’re very inconsistent. One of our starters is out and we already lack depth. We have a hard time putting teams away. We can struggle mightily on offense, at least in long stretches of games. You guys are on a hot streak. You guys aren’t dancing without your tourney win. We have 2 first round NBA guards on our team. We’re an elite defensive team. Our worst loss this season was to KenPom #63, while you guys sit at #85. Bottom line, either team winning won’t be a shocker. We’re favored, and rightfully so given the body of work over the season. But just like your Pac-12 tourney, you don’t have to win the whole season now. Anyone can win just one game. March doesn’t always crown the best team as the champ, but it always crowns the hottest team. Single-elimination tournaments are always so hard to predict, b/c most teams that make it this far can win/lose just one game. It’s what makes the NCAAT my favorite sporting event. I listened to an Andy Katz pod today and he had Ethan Thompson as #9 on his top 10 list (best players) playing on a double digit seed. Two first round nba guards? With that How thev heck did Tennessee lose one game let alone 8? |
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 18, 2021 18:16:46 GMT -8
We’re very inconsistent. One of our starters is out and we already lack depth. We have a hard time putting teams away. We can struggle mightily on offense, at least in long stretches of games. You guys are on a hot streak. You guys aren’t dancing without your tourney win. We have 2 first round NBA guards on our team. We’re an elite defensive team. Our worst loss this season was to KenPom #63, while you guys sit at #85. Bottom line, either team winning won’t be a shocker. We’re favored, and rightfully so given the body of work over the season. But just like your Pac-12 tourney, you don’t have to win the whole season now. Anyone can win just one game. March doesn’t always crown the best team as the champ, but it always crowns the hottest team. Single-elimination tournaments are always so hard to predict, b/c most teams that make it this far can win/lose just one game. It’s what makes the NCAAT my favorite sporting event. I listened to an Andy Katz pod today and he had Ethan Thompson as #9 on his top 10 list (best players) playing on a double digit seed. Two first round nba guards? With that How thev heck did Tennessee lose one game let alone 8? NBA drafts on potential. Yes, they have 2 guys that could play in the league. The thing about them is they don’t shoot many 3’s. We need to hit our 3’s and rebound to hang with them. This game should be a lot like our games vs the ucks. They will go with a small athletic lineup and we need to D up and use our height to our advantage. |
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Post by afvolunteer on Mar 18, 2021 19:08:40 GMT -8
Two first round nba guards? With that How thev heck did Tennessee lose one game let alone 8? NBA drafts on potential. Yes, they have 2 guys that could play in the league. The thing about them is they don’t shoot many 3’s. We need to hit our 3’s and rebound to hang with them. This game should be a lot like our games vs the ucks. They will go with a small athletic lineup and we need to D up and use our height to our advantage. All of this. We don’t have 2 guys on our roster that would start in the NBA right now, much less even play much. But we do have 2 guys that will go early to mid-first round most likely purely on potential. I just googled NBA draft (I don’t really follow the NBA, but nbadraft.net was the first site that popped up), and the 2 guards were projected #9 and #11. Our own fans even fight with those of us more knowledgeable hoops posters sometimes. “If he’s gonna play in the NBA next year, then it’s gonna be unwatchable.” We have to try to explain to them, getting drafted in NBA doesn’t = being NBA ready right now. It means looking at the skill and athleticism of an often times 18-19 year old kid and saying “could this guy be a superstar in a few years?” Happens every year with college freshman, and it’s not hyperbole for our 2 frosh. One in particular will make an insanely athletic play that wows us, and then proceed to turn it over 3 straight times. His 3 ball is terrible. He leads our team in TOs, but will still be a top 10 draft pick though b/c once he gets to the league, they think the rest of that stuff is fixable. But that (among several other reasons) is how we lost 8 games. If you guys stay hot from 3, I’ll be very concerned. I’m one of those folks that doesn’t really believe too much in 3pt% defense being a real thing. That said, we’re 0-3 this year against power conference teams who shoot better than 42% from 3 in the game. In your 3 game PAC-12 tourney run, you shot 44% from downtown. Any team is gonna be tough to beat shooting that well from distance. I’m still not convinced your height will be quite the advantage it looks like on paper, unless you get our 4 & 5 man in some foul trouble. But you’re correct, we will go with a small but long athletic lineup and if you D up on us, we’ll be happy to settle for contested jumpers and struggle to score. If you guys hit 3’s at a good clip along the way, that’s the recipe for the upset IMO. |
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Post by TheGlove on Mar 18, 2021 19:23:20 GMT -8
I think one thing to keep in mind is Pac-12 officials call a much tighter game that the rest of country. It doesn't prepare the teams the way games will be called in the tournament. I hope the team can adapt and not focus on not getting the same calls against the defense that they are used to. They need to adjust to the physical play. Once again, there aren’t Pac-12 refs in basketball. |
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Post by seastape on Mar 18, 2021 20:18:10 GMT -8
I think one thing to keep in mind is Pac-12 officials call a much tighter game that the rest of country. It doesn't prepare the teams the way games will be called in the tournament. I hope the team can adapt and not focus on not getting the same calls against the defense that they are used to. They need to adjust to the physical play. 100% agree; liking your post was not good enough. This has been going on in the Pac 12/10 for decades now. |
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Post by beaverbeliever on Mar 19, 2021 0:33:32 GMT -8
We don’t have 2 guys on our roster that would start in the NBA right now, much less even play much. But we do have 2 guys that will go early to mid-first round most likely purely on potential. I just googled NBA draft (I don’t really follow the NBA, but nbadraft.net was the first site that popped up), and the 2 guards were projected #9 and #11. Our own fans even fight with those of us more knowledgeable hoops posters sometimes. “If he’s gonna play in the NBA next year, then it’s gonna be unwatchable.” We have to try to explain to them, getting drafted in NBA doesn’t = being NBA ready right now. It means looking at the skill and athleticism of an often times 18-19 year old kid and saying “could this guy be a superstar in a few years?” Happens every year with college freshman, and it’s not hyperbole for our 2 frosh. One in particular will make an insanely athletic play that wows us, and then proceed to turn it over 3 straight times. His 3 ball is terrible. He leads our team in TOs, but will still be a top 10 draft pick though b/c once he gets to the league, they think the rest of that stuff is fixable. But that (among several other reasons) is how we lost 8 games. I watch way more NBA ball than college, and you're of course right in that the NBA often drafts on athleticism and potential - but if you can't shoot the three and aren't a center, you won't last long in the league. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 19, 2021 4:22:52 GMT -8
We don’t have 2 guys on our roster that would start in the NBA right now, much less even play much. But we do have 2 guys that will go early to mid-first round most likely purely on potential. I just googled NBA draft (I don’t really follow the NBA, but nbadraft.net was the first site that popped up), and the 2 guards were projected #9 and #11. Our own fans even fight with those of us more knowledgeable hoops posters sometimes. “If he’s gonna play in the NBA next year, then it’s gonna be unwatchable.” We have to try to explain to them, getting drafted in NBA doesn’t = being NBA ready right now. It means looking at the skill and athleticism of an often times 18-19 year old kid and saying “could this guy be a superstar in a few years?” Happens every year with college freshman, and it’s not hyperbole for our 2 frosh. One in particular will make an insanely athletic play that wows us, and then proceed to turn it over 3 straight times. His 3 ball is terrible. He leads our team in TOs, but will still be a top 10 draft pick though b/c once he gets to the league, they think the rest of that stuff is fixable. But that (among several other reasons) is how we lost 8 games. I watch way more NBA ball than college, and you're of course right in that the NBA often drafts on athleticism and potential - but if you can't shoot the three and aren't a center, you won't last long in the league. Ben Simmons and Ricky Rubio strenuously object to this post. |
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Post by ag87 on Mar 19, 2021 7:37:16 GMT -8
I think one thing to keep in mind is Pac-12 officials call a much tighter game that the rest of country. It doesn't prepare the teams the way games will be called in the tournament. I hope the team can adapt and not focus on not getting the same calls against the defense that they are used to. They need to adjust to the physical play. Once again, there aren’t Pac-12 refs in basketball. An example: Tony Padilla, who reffed the Pac-12 championship game, has been all over the map this season. He's an A-lister who gets sweet 16 and elite 8 games. His schedule is as follows - 11/28-29 Las Vegas, 12/2 Reno, 12/3 SLC, 12/4 Omaha, 12/6 Ft. Worth, 12/8 Manhatten KS, 12/9 Tucson, 12/10 San Francisco, 12/11 Los Angeles, 12/15 Moraga, 12/16 Seattle, 12/17 Lubbock, 12/18 Reno, 12/20 Las Vegas, 12/21 Logan, 12/23 Malibu, 12/28 Tucson, 12/29 Galen Center, 1/2 San Diego, 1/3 Sacramento, 1/4 Fresno, 1/6 Lubbock, 1/7 Boulder, 1/8 Boise, 1/9 Santa Cruz, 1/14 Logan, 1/15 Charlotte, 1/17 Huntington WV, 1/22 Colorado Springs, 1/23 St George UT, 1/24 Laramie, 1/25 Las Vegas, 1/27 Malibu, 1/28 Galen Center, 1/29 Ft. Collins, 1/30 Boulder, 1/31 Seattle, 2/2 Lawrence, 2/3 Ft. Worth, 2/5 Denton, 2/6 Norman, 2/7 Stanford, 2/8 Boulder, 2/11 Pullman, 2/13 Tucson, 2/18 Corvallis, 2/20 Pullman (3OT), 2/21 San Jose, 2/25 Boulder, 2/27 Tucson, 2/28 Logan, 3/2 Lubbock, 3/3 SLC, 3/5 WCC Tournament Las Vegas, 3/6 Pauley Pavilion, 3/8 WCC Tournament Las Vegas, 3/9 Big West Tournament Las Vegas, 3/10, 11, 12 and 13 Pac-12 Tournament. I have not looked him up to see where he is based from. |
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Post by mbabeav on Mar 19, 2021 9:47:46 GMT -8
NBA drafts on potential. Yes, they have 2 guys that could play in the league. The thing about them is they don’t shoot many 3’s. We need to hit our 3’s and rebound to hang with them. This game should be a lot like our games vs the ucks. They will go with a small athletic lineup and we need to D up and use our height to our advantage. All of this. We don’t have 2 guys on our roster that would start in the NBA right now, much less even play much. But we do have 2 guys that will go early to mid-first round most likely purely on potential. I just googled NBA draft (I don’t really follow the NBA, but nbadraft.net was the first site that popped up), and the 2 guards were projected #9 and #11. Our own fans even fight with those of us more knowledgeable hoops posters sometimes. “If he’s gonna play in the NBA next year, then it’s gonna be unwatchable.” We have to try to explain to them, getting drafted in NBA doesn’t = being NBA ready right now. It means looking at the skill and athleticism of an often times 18-19 year old kid and saying “could this guy be a superstar in a few years?” Happens every year with college freshman, and it’s not hyperbole for our 2 frosh. One in particular will make an insanely athletic play that wows us, and then proceed to turn it over 3 straight times. His 3 ball is terrible. He leads our team in TOs, but will still be a top 10 draft pick though b/c once he gets to the league, they think the rest of that stuff is fixable. But that (among several other reasons) is how we lost 8 games. If you guys stay hot from 3, I’ll be very concerned. I’m one of those folks that doesn’t really believe too much in 3pt% defense being a real thing. That said, we’re 0-3 this year against power conference teams who shoot better than 42% from 3 in the game. In your 3 game PAC-12 tourney run, you shot 44% from downtown. Any team is gonna be tough to beat shooting that well from distance. I’m still not convinced your height will be quite the advantage it looks like on paper, unless you get our 4 & 5 man in some foul trouble. But you’re correct, we will go with a small but long athletic lineup and if you D up on us, we’ll be happy to settle for contested jumpers and struggle to score. If you guys hit 3’s at a good clip along the way, that’s the recipe for the upset IMO. We've got a few guys with NBA potential as well - if Warith Alatishe continues to play like he has been, on the national stage, I think there might be more than a few commentators who start talking about him being 1st round material. He is scary athletic and still so new to the game. He also might be the most intelligent player out on the court. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 19, 2021 9:49:33 GMT -8
All of this. We don’t have 2 guys on our roster that would start in the NBA right now, much less even play much. But we do have 2 guys that will go early to mid-first round most likely purely on potential. I just googled NBA draft (I don’t really follow the NBA, but nbadraft.net was the first site that popped up), and the 2 guards were projected #9 and #11. Our own fans even fight with those of us more knowledgeable hoops posters sometimes. “If he’s gonna play in the NBA next year, then it’s gonna be unwatchable.” We have to try to explain to them, getting drafted in NBA doesn’t = being NBA ready right now. It means looking at the skill and athleticism of an often times 18-19 year old kid and saying “could this guy be a superstar in a few years?” Happens every year with college freshman, and it’s not hyperbole for our 2 frosh. One in particular will make an insanely athletic play that wows us, and then proceed to turn it over 3 straight times. His 3 ball is terrible. He leads our team in TOs, but will still be a top 10 draft pick though b/c once he gets to the league, they think the rest of that stuff is fixable. But that (among several other reasons) is how we lost 8 games. If you guys stay hot from 3, I’ll be very concerned. I’m one of those folks that doesn’t really believe too much in 3pt% defense being a real thing. That said, we’re 0-3 this year against power conference teams who shoot better than 42% from 3 in the game. In your 3 game PAC-12 tourney run, you shot 44% from downtown. Any team is gonna be tough to beat shooting that well from distance. I’m still not convinced your height will be quite the advantage it looks like on paper, unless you get our 4 & 5 man in some foul trouble. But you’re correct, we will go with a small but long athletic lineup and if you D up on us, we’ll be happy to settle for contested jumpers and struggle to score. If you guys hit 3’s at a good clip along the way, that’s the recipe for the upset IMO. We've got a few guys with NBA potential as well - if Warith Alatishe continues to play like he has been, on the national stage, I think there might be more than a few commentators who start talking about him being 1st round material. He is scary athletic and still so new to the game. He also might be the most intelligent player out on the court. Warith should just be shooting 15 to 18 foot jumpers all off season. If he can consistently knocked down a jump shot, he has the ability to make an NBA roster. |
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