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Post by lotrader on Mar 15, 2021 18:39:34 GMT -8
Our WBB Team just need to play fearless, and they will do fine.
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Post by wbosh15 on Mar 15, 2021 18:41:31 GMT -8
Those early losses, without TVO, really hurt our seeding. Total late collapse, without PP, didn't hurt Oregon much. Two teams clearly not seeded according to how good they were in the final weeks of the season. I'd love us playing as a 6 instead of an 8.  Oregon was coated in teflon all season. No matter how many games they lost, it was never reflected in their NET ranking, their place in the polls, or their seeding. What in the world was going on with that? 0-6 against the top 3 in the Pac 12, 1-8 against the top 4, no good OOC wins, only good win was against OSU in December when the Beavs stunk. Maybe you can give them a bit of credit for 2 wins against Washington St., who were barely over .500 this year but did manage to beat Arizona and UCLA, something the Ducks couldn't manage. Their entire season was smoke and mirrors.
Some other bizarre seeding, Texas a #6 based on pretty much nothing, Georgia Tech a #5 also based on nothing.
One thing about the net, is that offensive and defensive rating (how much you score and how much you give up) are huge parts of the equation. The Ducks had some big margin of victory wins (including beating Cal by 60). Doing that and not getting blown out except for UCLA really helped them. |
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Post by nwhoopfan on Mar 15, 2021 18:55:09 GMT -8
Oregon was coated in teflon all season. No matter how many games they lost, it was never reflected in their NET ranking, their place in the polls, or their seeding. What in the world was going on with that? 0-6 against the top 3 in the Pac 12, 1-8 against the top 4, no good OOC wins, only good win was against OSU in December when the Beavs stunk. Maybe you can give them a bit of credit for 2 wins against Washington St., who were barely over .500 this year but did manage to beat Arizona and UCLA, something the Ducks couldn't manage. Their entire season was smoke and mirrors.
Some other bizarre seeding, Texas a #6 based on pretty much nothing, Georgia Tech a #5 also based on nothing.
One thing about the net, is that offensive and defensive rating (how much you score and how much you give up) are huge parts of the equation. The Ducks had some big margin of victory wins (including beating Cal by 60). Doing that and not getting blown out except for UCLA really helped them. Yeah, I think the formula needs some major tweaking. At this point I think it's actually worse than the RPI was. Arizona beat Oregon handily twice. For the Ducks losing twice to Stanford by relatively close margins appears to have been even better than winning games. |
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Post by beaveragain on Mar 15, 2021 19:03:06 GMT -8
My thoughts on this selection is based on my thoughts on the team in general.
The Beav's have had four problems this year.
1- Defending the 3 line. Sasha and Mack have never had to defend the three line as OSU does so it's been a steep learning curve for both. But this seems to have been fixed (crossing fingers)
2- Rebounding. This is a work in progress and they aren't at the level of teams of old but Jones has really stepped up her game and it seems to be all right.
3- Scoring. The addition of Talia has really made a difference for the team as she has ended scoring droughts a couple of times.
4- Running out of oomph. This is the real killer for the team and the what I see as the limit on how far the team can go. Both games against Stanford the team hit the wall and started shooting air balls, passing to the wrong team etc. A month off of conditioning and playing games has left the team behind everyone on their ability to play a bunch of games.
Sooo, my thought is that it is good to play a #1 team so early while the Beav's are still full of energy. I see them having a hard time winning a third game and then probably falling flat in the fourth game if they make it that far. But first FSU. We've found out what happens when you overlook them!
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Mar 15, 2021 19:13:09 GMT -8
Oregon was coated in teflon all season. No matter how many games they lost, it was never reflected in their NET ranking, their place in the polls, or their seeding. What in the world was going on with that? 0-6 against the top 3 in the Pac 12, 1-8 against the top 4, no good OOC wins, only good win was against OSU in December when the Beavs stunk. Maybe you can give them a bit of credit for 2 wins against Washington St., who were barely over .500 this year but did manage to beat Arizona and UCLA, something the Ducks couldn't manage. Their entire season was smoke and mirrors.
Some other bizarre seeding, Texas a #6 based on pretty much nothing, Georgia Tech a #5 also based on nothing.
One thing about the net, is that offensive and defensive rating (how much you score and how much you give up) are huge parts of the equation. The Ducks had some big margin of victory wins (including beating Cal by 60). Doing that and not getting blown out except for UCLA really helped them. Any rating system that encourages running up the score should never be used. |
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Post by wbosh15 on Mar 15, 2021 19:38:54 GMT -8
One thing about the net, is that offensive and defensive rating (how much you score and how much you give up) are huge parts of the equation. The Ducks had some big margin of victory wins (including beating Cal by 60). Doing that and not getting blown out except for UCLA really helped them. Any rating system that encourages running up the score should never be used. I can understand wanting to limit the margin, but any rating system needs to use margin of victory. The big issue with the net is the emphasis on road wins. Because of the pandemic those are probably overemphasized this year. I think next year will be a better test. |
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Post by shelby on Mar 15, 2021 19:40:45 GMT -8
I agree on the formula piece... winning by large margins - just by pouring it on, is not a reasonable metric !
There are so many variables throughout a game,, and game to game, that you cannot really connect the dots. What is to learned by losing by 20 points to one team , and then only by 1 point the next time you play them ? Totally different execution/ Circumstances.
I think that just the records and the schedule; OOC AND in Conference, should be considered and then adjusted over the year based on end of year performance vs the first half. Momentum and improved play needs to be rewarded.
The real difficulty this year was the game cancellation impact! Without balanced schedules, you have a partial picture !
Lots of different formulas out there - but, to me , rewarding consistency has to carry the day !
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Post by willtalk on Mar 15, 2021 20:30:56 GMT -8
It's time for revenge. Lost to FSU in Sydney's last game for the Beavs in the Stockton Regional as Syd went 0-10 from beyond the arc. Lost to S.C. in the Seattle Regional a few years before that. I was at that game. Even with Sydneys cold shooting Oregon St was still beating Florida St. until Scott changed the defense. Interestingly enough South Carolina played the winner in the Regional final. I have to say Florada St got shafted by the officials. they made a comeback in the fourth quarter, had momentum and were called for some Phantom fouls that put SCarolina on the line. South Carolina couldn't buy a basket except on the line. Beat Florida St this time and they get to play SC. Thats a real do over. |
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Post by jimbob on Mar 15, 2021 23:27:10 GMT -8
FSU looks to be a very formidible opponent. A quick check of their team website reveals that they have a freshman 6'5" shot-blocking center, a 6'3" sophomore shot-blocking fwd-center @ 8 ppg, both McDonald all-American's, and 2 sophomore tall athletic guards (5'11" & 6'2") who both avg. over 13 ppg and one of whom was Alabama's Gatorade player of the yr. as a Sr. in Hi-School, and another sophmore 5'10" guard that avg. 12 ppg and who was Louisiana's Gatorade player of the year in 2018. And their signature win this yr. was a 9pt victory over none other than our nemesis Louisville!! So they are young and a bit inconsistent but appear to be very athletic and talented....We will have our work cut out for us with this matchup I believe.
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Post by willtalk on Mar 16, 2021 6:11:42 GMT -8
FSU looks to be a very formidible opponent. A quick check of their team website reveals that they have a freshman 6'5" shot-blocking center, a 6'3" sophomore shot-blocking fwd-center @ 8 ppg, both McDonald all-American's, and 2 sophomore tall athletic guards (5'11" & 6'2") who both avg. over 13 ppg and one of whom was Alabama's Gatorade player of the yr. as a Sr. in Hi-School, and another sophmore 5'10" guard that avg. 12 ppg and who was Louisiana's Gatorade player of the year in 2018. And their signature win this yr. was a 9pt victory over none other than our nemesis Louisville!! So they are young and a bit inconsistent but appear to be very athletic and talented....We will have our work cut out for us with this matchup I believe. In all they have 3 McDonald AA ( one is injured and not playing ) and some of their players are transfers or coming off of injuries so it is possible that much like Oregon St this season, have just not gotten it all together yet due to practice restrictions. However, unlike the Beaves, they did not have a winning streak to end their season. One of their guards ( 6'1" )played and shared wing duties in the same McDonalds game as Brown. She is their 3pt shooter. I don't remember her doing much. I think think the Beaves 6'1" McD AA is much better. They were also very fortunate to catch Evens ( Louisville' AA guard) on a bad shooting day when they beat them. . |
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Mar 16, 2021 10:12:01 GMT -8
Any chance ftd or a moderator can correct the spelling of "Selction" in the title of this thread so that other posters and readers may believe our fan base can spell accurately in Corvallis?
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 16, 2021 10:26:04 GMT -8
Any chance ftd or a moderator can correct the spelling of "Selction" in the title of this thread so that other posters and readers many believe our fan base can spell accurately in Corvallis? Irony is a beautiful thing.  |
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