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Post by irimi on Mar 2, 2021 15:55:36 GMT -8
Sorry, boys, but your optimism is through orange-colored glasses. UNM and GCU are not Pac-12 caliber teams. So don't think for a minute that we will dominate conference opponents they way we dominated marginal teams. We've proven nothing except good pitching [KSU] can beat us. And the Pac-12 will have a lot of it. I disagree that the team has proven nothing, but I think your main point could be valid, namely that we don’t know how this team will fare against Pac 12 teams. However, if you remember the 2017 and 2018 seasons, a hallmark of our ball team was their will not to lose. I remember the 2017 team coming from behind to win non-conference games early in the season. They simply believed themselves to victory. I won’t say it is the same, but what we’ve seen this year is very similar. The loss at K-State was nearly turned into a win. And we have won the close games, sometimes in the 9th. A club that believes in itself is a difficult opponent. |
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Post by beavermd on Mar 3, 2021 19:08:15 GMT -8
Sorry, boys, but your optimism is through orange-colored glasses. UNM and GCU are not Pac-12 caliber teams. So don't think for a minute that we will dominate conference opponents they way we dominated marginal teams. We've proven nothing except good pitching [KSU] can beat us. And the Pac-12 will have a lot of it. I love the message board guy that gets off to being a pessimist. Nobody’s proclaiming us national champions, but it’s ok to be excited starting 7-1. We did what good teams do, we beat teams were supposed to beat. And calling Wick’s “good pitching” is an insult to him. He’s without a doubt the best pitcher we’ll face this year. He was GREAT against us, not just “good”. We’ll definitely lose more games this year, but the PAC-12 isn’t this huge step up in pitching compared to what we’ve seen. |
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Post by jdogge on Mar 3, 2021 21:30:07 GMT -8
Sorry, boys, but your optimism is through orange-colored glasses. UNM and GCU are not Pac-12 caliber teams. So don't think for a minute that we will dominate conference opponents they way we dominated marginal teams. We've proven nothing except good pitching [KSU] can beat us. And the Pac-12 will have a lot of it. I love the message board guy that gets off to being a pessimist. Nobody’s proclaiming us national champions, but it’s ok to be excited starting 7-1. We did what good teams do, we beat teams were supposed to beat. And calling Wick’s “good pitching” is an insult to him. He’s without a doubt the best pitcher we’ll face this year. He was GREAT against us, not just “good”. We’ll definitely lose more games this year, but the PAC-12 isn’t this huge step up in pitching compared to what we’ve seen. If you read my post as being "pessimistic" you need to read it again. I was simply counseling posters not to go over board over the results of eight games - eight non-coference games. |
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Post by beavermd on Mar 3, 2021 22:04:37 GMT -8
I love the message board guy that gets off to being a pessimist. Nobody’s proclaiming us national champions, but it’s ok to be excited starting 7-1. We did what good teams do, we beat teams were supposed to beat. And calling Wick’s “good pitching” is an insult to him. He’s without a doubt the best pitcher we’ll face this year. He was GREAT against us, not just “good”. We’ll definitely lose more games this year, but the PAC-12 isn’t this huge step up in pitching compared to what we’ve seen. If you read my post as being "pessimistic" you need to read it again. I was simply counseling posters not to go over board over the results of eight games - eight non-coference games. Thanks for the free counseling session. We all desperately needed it. |
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Post by mbabeav on Mar 3, 2021 22:31:20 GMT -8
If you read my post as being "pessimistic" you need to read it again. I was simply counseling posters not to go over board over the results of eight games - eight non-coference games. Thanks for the free counseling session. We all desperately needed it. Yeah, I mean I realize none of us have any experience with evaluating a good college club, we need your cautious counsel. |
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Post by jdogge on Mar 4, 2021 8:26:48 GMT -8
If you read my post as being "pessimistic" you need to read it again. I was simply counseling posters not to go over board over the results of eight games - eight non-coference games. Thanks for the free counseling session. We all desperately needed it. Yes, I agree. |
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Post by thewizard on Mar 4, 2021 9:58:29 GMT -8
Pitching depth is definitely deeper than in the past. I think we can all agree to that. The offense is still a big question mark in my mind. I think we will (hope we do) see a lot of 2-1, 3-2 or 4-3 ballgames. If we can do this, with our depth on the mound, we can probably win 60-65% of our games. But that is how I see it through my "Orange Tinted Glasses".
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 4, 2021 10:23:39 GMT -8
Pitching depth is definitely deeper than in the past. I think we can all agree to that. The offense is still a big question mark in my mind. I think we will (hope we do) see a lot of 2-1, 3-2 or 4-3 ballgames. If we can do this, with our depth on the mound, we can probably win 60-65% of our games. But that is how I see it through my "Orange Tinted Glasses". In my mind, the offense is still a question mark because not only did we struggle against Wicks, but we had issues with several other starters that we have faced (all 4 GCU starters and the last UNM game). We only started to see success when we got to the bullpens. I'm in the cautiously optimistic group at this point. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Mar 4, 2021 10:47:50 GMT -8
We shouldn't take too much away from the starting pitchers we struggled against though....GCU guys who shut us down were legit.....and Wicks is obviously special.
If anything I think the pitching weve seen to far is quite a bit better than we would normally see pre-season which will give this team a battle-tested kind of outlook at the plate come conference.....too orange tinted? Haha
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Post by mbabeav on Mar 4, 2021 12:05:18 GMT -8
Pitching depth is definitely deeper than in the past. I think we can all agree to that. The offense is still a big question mark in my mind. I think we will (hope we do) see a lot of 2-1, 3-2 or 4-3 ballgames. If we can do this, with our depth on the mound, we can probably win 60-65% of our games. But that is how I see it through my "Orange Tinted Glasses". In my mind, the offense is still a question mark because not only did we struggle against Wicks, but we had issues with several other starters that we have faced (all 4 GCU starters and the last UNM game). We only started to see success when we got to the bullpens. I'm in the cautiously optimistic group at this point. That's been a big part of Beaver success - wear down the starter, and blow the bullpen up. |
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Post by irimi on Mar 4, 2021 12:17:39 GMT -8
In my mind, the offense is still a question mark because not only did we struggle against Wicks, but we had issues with several other starters that we have faced (all 4 GCU starters and the last UNM game). We only started to see success when we got to the bullpens. I'm in the cautiously optimistic group at this point. That's been a big part of Beaver success - wear down the starter, and blow the bullpen up. Looks like we're taking pitchers deeper into the count this year. Always helps to get the pitch count high quickly. |
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Mar 4, 2021 12:23:50 GMT -8
In my mind, the offense is still a question mark because not only did we struggle against Wicks, but we had issues with several other starters that we have faced (all 4 GCU starters and the last UNM game). We only started to see success when we got to the bullpens. I'm in the cautiously optimistic group at this point. That's been a big part of Beaver success - wear down the starter, and blow the bullpen up. Thats kind of how it works out a lot in baseball when you think about it. Nice thing for us, we have a loaded bullpen! |
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