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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 12, 2016 14:09:59 GMT -8
K.J. Harrison is more talented Barney or Canham. Ice, Madrigal, and Morrison are all very solid. With Ice and Morrison, this team should have enough leadership to be successful. Having said that, the position players are younger than that 2007 team, which explains at least some of the offensive inconsistencies. Casey's great teams seem to mature overnight, though. Pitching-wise, 2016 Oregon State still does not have a reliable day 3 starter, much less a reliable midweek starter. In 2007, Reyes started the season as a situational starter. He did not take over the Sunday spot until six weeks left in the regular season. He finished the regular season 4-3. He finished the season as MVP of the College World Series. Eckert and Heimlich are both great starters. Neither is probably as good as Stutes was in 2007, but each could sub in for a Reyes at this stage of the season. Baseball America's projections, Oregon State is a three seed in Lubbock with Minnesota as a two. Oregon State notably beat Minnesota in Arizona at the beginning of the year. Texas Tech dropped a home series to Cal State Fullerton and split a series with California in Berkeley. They are not unbeatable. A good game out of Eckert and Heimlich and Oregon State is into the championship game. Good execution and timely hitting, and the Beavers are through to the Supers. Baseball America has the Lubbock regional paired with the Seattle regional. All Oregon State would need is to win a three game series likely against Washington, and they would be off to Omaha. Negativity is infectious, and I am personally tired of it. Pat Casey is a baseball guru, and, if Oregon State is on, this team is good enough to beat anybody. Now that is funny... I suppose you see KJ as the next Conforto too? I personally don't get "infected" by unrealistic aspirations/expectations that are constantly adjusted, excused, and based solely on a wish list. Everyone has their belief system, heck it's how Disney made their fortune!! I mean everything you state "could" happen... basically everything would have to play out "perfectly", completely contrary to how the team has played for a few weeks now... ya, I get it. We don;t believe what you believe and we are the purveyor of negativity holding this team back! LOL I'll leave it just as I stated... agree to disagree... STRONGLY!!! And, the last three game series OSU has won??? But, no problem... have to go at least 6-3 to stay in top 5 in league, win a regional on the road as a 3 or 4 seed, and sweep thru a Seattle Super (you do realize that is a projection, right?) when we could not sweep UW at home. Hmmmm, and people disagreeing with that are negative??? Wow. LOL So, you see Barnham or Canham (especially Canham) as better than KJ? Canham was a great catcher and a great leader, but he never made it out of AAA. I personally see KJ playing in the bigs. That may just be me, though. I do know that it is a projection. I am using the projection to show the plausibility of Oregon State in the CWS. I generally think of Baseball America as the best in the business as far as projections. Unless Oregon State catches fire, they are probably a three. Lubbock and Stillwater would be about the best case scenario. I personally think that Stillwater is slightly more attractive, but the Baseball America projection has Vandy in Stillwater, so maybe not. Plus, using an S-curve, Oregon State should be playing at a national seed, as that indicates that they are a better three. Also, to clarify, Oregon State would not need to sweep Washington, just take two-of-three. The Beavers already took two-of-three from the Huskies this year, so it is plausible. Will it play out that way? We'll see. Finally, people that disagree with me are negative. They may also be realists, but fatalistic and negative realists. |
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Post by baseba1111 on May 12, 2016 14:27:14 GMT -8
LMAO.... "Finally, people that disagree with me are negative."
Enough said... everything you say from here on out has like ZERO credibility... AND... who the hell is Barnham???
Cuz a Darwin/Mitch hybrid would be a hella player! Another projection??? LOL
PS- no projection needed, 2007 team was full of leaders and GREAT college players (ya see that is what OSU is, a college ball club) and they won a CHAMPIONSHIP. Not a maybe, possible, or projected one. Here and now... no comparison no matter how much you want to project...
PPS- KJ has a loooooong way to go to be a MLB player. He's a career .260 hitter in Pac12 games.
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Post by nabeav on May 12, 2016 15:53:34 GMT -8
Gotta agree with Baseba1111 on this one.....what the kids do after leaving OSU has zero relevance to what they do while here. Jonah Nickerson/Dallas Buck/Kevin Gunderson- none of them made it to the bigs, does that mean they were worse pitchers than Eddie Kunz?
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Post by baseba1111 on May 12, 2016 19:23:27 GMT -8
Gotta agree with Baseba1111 on this one.....what the kids do after leaving OSU has zero relevance to what they do while here. Jonah Nickerson/Dallas Buck/Kevin Gunderson- none of them made it to the bigs, does that mean they were worse pitchers than Eddie Kunz? You know... now you are part of the "negativity" group... you ok with that??? ;>) |
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Post by nabeav on May 12, 2016 20:04:58 GMT -8
#teamnegativity for life
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Post by blackbug on May 13, 2016 12:58:42 GMT -8
To me the point is the similarities between 2007 and 2016 are there (even if the similarities are small), that does not mean the same thing will happen, but we can hope. Hardly anybody thought that suddenly the 2007 team was going to turn into be world beaters at a similar stage in the season. Neither is anyone predicting this team will suddenly be like the 2007 team at the end of the season, but there is a chance however remote and I happy hoping to see something that unfolds. I don't think the post needs to be refuted as someone predicting this unlikely scenario, but rather appreciated that something special (however unlikely) could happen and we have seen it before.
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Post by baseba1111 on May 13, 2016 13:15:31 GMT -8
To me the point is the similarities between 2007 and 2016 are there (even if the similarities are small), that does not mean the same thing will happen, but we can hope. Hardly anybody thought that suddenly the 2007 team was going to turn into be world beaters at a similar stage in the season. Neither is anyone predicting this team will suddenly be like the 2007 team at the end of the season, but there is a chance however remote and I happy hoping to see something that unfolds. I don't think the post needs to be refuted as someone predicting this unlikely scenario, but rather appreciated that something special (however unlikely) could happen and we have seen it before. If it remained a "general" post I agree... but, when stating particular player(s) are indeed better leaders/players than a proven NC team/player is where the refuting begins. There is nothing wrong about dreaming. But when the comparison is questioned, then supported by pure conjecture and comparing the known accomplishments of said champions to players have accomplished basically "zero" in comparison... is jumping the shark... dream now moves into nonsensical fantasy! And, well, the posters calling anyone "negative" that disagrees with him borders on hypocrisy. As it could be said it was actually the poster being negative in such a comparison... of what was truly a great achievement, not a "maybe"/dream scenario. This team fully supported, but has done very little to ever be compared to any champion. Let's let it play out and make such comparisons. Just saying. |
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