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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Dec 11, 2020 12:43:50 GMT -8
Ok you say this is unacceptable and strive for something greater, I say it’s been this way for thirty years regardless of coach. I didn’t say I’m supporting Wayne Tinkle, I’m saying firing yet another coach after 5-6 years to achieve little to no gain on the court and financial distress off of it just sounds like the same s%#t we’ve been doing for 3 decades. At this point we have to let Wayne’s contract play out and then reset the coaches salary and start all over again. Bitching about it now isn’t accomplishing anything. Letting a coaches contract expire is never done - it's how a program can ensure bottoming out. How do you recruit a kid to come for 4 years when the coach's contract doesn't even go that far? With coronavirus and no fans, there is not much money to buy out anyone's contract this year. Things may be different in a couple of months, though. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 11, 2020 12:53:01 GMT -8
I guess some of you are right we should accept mediocrity or worse after all if we were able to find a coach like a young Tony Bennett those of you that like mediocrity would gripe because that young coach would move on after bringing us off the floor and we would Have to search again. So Lets Just keep Wayne hell give him an extension. After all its the best we can ever do. That's a weird name to drop. WSU "found" Tony Bennett, because they hired his dad who when he retired, insisted that his son replace him and due to Dick Bennett's success, they agreed. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 11, 2020 12:53:50 GMT -8
Letting a coaches contract expire is never done - it's how a program can ensure bottoming out. How do you recruit a kid to come for 4 years when the coach's contract doesn't even go that far? With coronavirus and no fans, there is not much money to buy out anyone's contract this year. Things may be different in a couple of months, though. Nothing is going to be different in a couple of months. The financial hit for our athletic department will take years to recover from. |
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Post by alwaysorange on Dec 11, 2020 13:18:02 GMT -8
I guess some of you are right we should accept mediocrity or worse after all if we were able to find a coach like a young Tony Bennett those of you that like mediocrity would gripe because that young coach would move on after bringing us off the floor and we would Have to search again. So Lets Just keep Wayne hell give him an extension. After all its the best we can ever do. That's a weird name to drop. WSU "found" Tony Bennett, because they hired his dad who when he retired, insisted that his son replace him and due to Dick Bennett's success, they agreed. I agree with you on how tony Bennett became wazoo coach. I'm just saying there are other Tony Bennett type coaches out there looking for a chance. |
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Post by shelby on Dec 11, 2020 13:21:58 GMT -8
I love watching Alatishe and Calloo and Lucas, but their potential and contributions are buried in a mash up of incompetent game planning and execution ! Oh well, will not go out of my way - but will watch when I have nothing else to do . One thing that stood out to me was the high-low between Franklin and Silva. Two passes from Julien and two gimmies for Roman. OS had a height advantage which wasn't exploited. Other than the two instances I mentioned, our inside game was Ethan or Zach driving into traffic and either forcing something up or losing the ball. Defense and rebounding still seem to be liabilities. This is all coaching, and I'm not sure how or if that will change. Wayne seems to have a serious substitution problem; when and who. MB. Pretty much spot on . The easy layups the Pilots got were startling. Could not guard the three, could not stop the easy shot’s ! WOW ! |
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Post by chicagobeav on Dec 11, 2020 13:36:29 GMT -8
Not very happy at this point, but I am viewing this year as a lost year given the Covid-19 impact - and hope that we can move forward in the future or determine the Coach’s viability with one year on his present deal
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Post by beaverstever on Dec 11, 2020 14:14:53 GMT -8
Letting a coaches contract expire is never done - it's how a program can ensure bottoming out. How do you recruit a kid to come for 4 years when the coach's contract doesn't even go that far? With coronavirus and no fans, there is not much money to buy out anyone's contract this year. Things may be different in a couple of months, though. Don't coach buyouts generally come about by raising money from well-heeled donors who care? (maybe not so much at OSU, but in general). Covid has been a major profit boon for some industries/specific individuals, so I don't think a change needs to be tied to current events, assuming OSU has such alumni. |
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Post by beaverstever on Dec 11, 2020 14:19:37 GMT -8
Another thing - the Beavs don't like contact - play "football" against them, send them to the line, but overall make them flinch trying to go inside. And I also wondered why Silva was not in there, he was playing his best game. Beat up the Beavers and you are a lot more likely to win. This is why I like Gianni starting and playing more. He had two fouls yesterday and both were high intensity, in your face, physical defense and effort fouls. He basically hit sticked their PG for his first foul going for the ball. Gianni brought a lot of fire last night and while he still makes plenty of mistakes, he needs to see 30+ minutes a game. I liked his attitude, but didn't like him getting blown by for a bucket after picking up his man at 30'. It made his defensive effort look more like hubris than actually being up for the challenge. UP's guards had quicks that need respected. |
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Post by seastape on Dec 13, 2020 23:34:00 GMT -8
Another thing - the Beavs don't like contact - play "football" against them, send them to the line, but overall make them flinch trying to go inside. And I also wondered why Silva was not in there, he was playing his best game. Beat up the Beavers and you are a lot more likely to win. This is why I like Gianni starting and playing more. He had two fouls yesterday and both were high intensity, in your face, physical defense and effort fouls. He basically hit sticked their PG for his first foul going for the ball. Gianni brought a lot of fire last night and while he still makes plenty of mistakes, he needs to see 30+ minutes a game.Based on basketball skill, none of our guards, except maybe Ethan, "need[] to see 30+ minutes a game." What "needs" to happen is a roster upgrade. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Dec 14, 2020 10:34:42 GMT -8
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Post by beaversproud on Dec 18, 2020 10:32:58 GMT -8
Letting a coaches contract expire is never done - it's how a program can ensure bottoming out. How do you recruit a kid to come for 4 years when the coach's contract doesn't even go that far? With coronavirus and no fans, there is not much money to buy out anyone's contract this year. Things may be different in a couple of months, though. How many years are left? How much will it cost? And can you really let someone go during Covid-19? |
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