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Post by beaverbeliever71 on Dec 2, 2020 22:02:43 GMT -8
We kept losing our contenuity as the game went on, why? The answer explains one missing part we have that isn't being filled. In my humble opinion. Whatever happened to Hunt? He did miss the first 2 games do to concussion protocol.. maybe Tinkle easing him back into things?
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Dec 2, 2020 22:37:35 GMT -8
I really, really wanted this team to be different. After the first two games, the Cal game in particular, I was impressed with a lot of what I saw from the guys, especially the newcomers. Today was just more of the same. Every time it seems a Tinkle team has a chance to build legitimate momentum with a win against a VERY beatable opponent, they fall flat. I don't expect us to never lose a game to a team it seems like we should beat. That happens. But WT teams for whatever reason just consistently lose to teams in the bottom half of the league, and look positively inept doing it sometimes.
I want nothing more than for WT to be successful and for OSU basketball to be successful. Maybe I shouldn't continue to get my hopes up for a program with one NCAA tournament appearance in 30 years. I guess I'm not really surprised, just disappointed. Lots of season left but today did nothing to fill me with confidence going forward.
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Post by beaverstever on Dec 2, 2020 23:06:38 GMT -8
Ugly loss. WSU plays good D, and has a good coach. The loss doesn't surprise me, but I feel myself catching another case of apathy.
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Post by beaverinohio on Dec 3, 2020 0:11:08 GMT -8
I only saw random minutes here and there and then the last two minutes, so a lot of these takes are based on post-game comments here and the box score. First, was anyone surprised Ethan missed that free throw? For a career 75% FT shooter he seems to miss a fair amount of pressure FTs. And if he wasn’t going to shoot the chippee at the end, why did he drive in and basically pick up his dribble? He ended up lucking out and finding Reichle, but if you going to get in that deep should probably shoot it yourself and then quickly foul.
I have a feeling Calloo is going to be a somewhat frustrating player all season long. He has talent and can does some good things (9 rebs, 2 steals and a block), but plays a little too loose sometimes and seems like he might be prone to mental mistakes. I know Alatishe is one of those kind of players that announcers like to say he can get his points without a play being run for him, but as it seems like he’s at worse your 2nd best player WT might want to run some plays for him. Also disappointed to see Silver didn’t get in especially with how poorly Lucas was shooting. Reports were he was ready to go, but maybe ankle wasn’t good enough. And not sure if I just happened to see his best plays of the night, but Tucker had some good moments in limited action. Still looks very raw, but showed some good signs.
Still very early in the season, so not going to lose hope but this loss was concerning. Beavs have now played two conference foes that I’d guess will finish in bottom half (very possibly bottom third), and they’ve gone 1-1. Not sure that bodes too well especially because the win wasn’t officially a conference game. Let’s hope they can gain some continuity and consistency over the next 3 games. If not that USC game could be really ugly.
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Post by beaverbeliever71 on Dec 3, 2020 0:18:19 GMT -8
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Post by beaverinohio on Dec 3, 2020 0:27:59 GMT -8
Good to see WT taking responsibility. If I recall that hasn’t always seemed like the case.
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Post by seastape on Dec 3, 2020 1:24:00 GMT -8
Fouls didn’t allow us to exploit our size. Andela and Silva couldn’t stay on the floor. Pac-12 hoops refs aren’t as nationally known as their football counterparts, but they’re every bit their equal in job performance. Pac 12 refs are terrible, especially calling the inside game. They always call ticky-tac contact fouls and demand soft inside play. So many off the ball fouls. It's turned the Pac 12 into a finesse conference. That's bad news come tournament time.
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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 3, 2020 6:55:31 GMT -8
I only saw random minutes here and there and then the last two minutes, so a lot of these takes are based on post-game comments here and the box score. First, was anyone surprised Ethan missed that free throw? For a career 75% FT shooter he seems to miss a fair amount of pressure FTs. And if he wasn’t going to shoot the chippee at the end, why did he drive in and basically pick up his dribble? He ended up lucking out and finding Reichle, but if you going to get in that deep should probably shoot it yourself and then quickly foul. I have a feeling Calloo is going to be a somewhat frustrating player all season long. He has talent and can does some good things (9 rebs, 2 steals and a block), but plays a little too loose sometimes and seems like he might be prone to mental mistakes. I know Alatishe is one of those kind of players that announcers like to say he can get his points without a play being run for him, but as it seems like he’s at worse your 2nd best player WT might want to run some plays for him. Also disappointed to see Silver didn’t get in especially with how poorly Lucas was shooting. Reports were he was ready to go, but maybe ankle wasn’t good enough. And not sure if I just happened to see his best plays of the night, but Tucker had some good moments in limited action. Still looks very raw, but showed some good signs. Still very early in the season, so not going to lose hope but this loss was concerning. Beavs have now played two conference foes that I’d guess will finish in bottom half (very possibly bottom third), and they’ve gone 1-1. Not sure that bodes too well especially because the win wasn’t officially a conference game. Let’s hope they can gain some continuity and consistency over the next 3 games. If not that USC game could be really ugly. Silver has an injured ankle. He was not available Also, the Cal win was a non conference game. We are 0-1 in league
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Post by beaverinohio on Dec 3, 2020 7:16:17 GMT -8
Thanks on Silver info. Saw something on Twitter that he was going to be available. And know Cal wasn’t a conf. game as I said in my post.
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Dec 3, 2020 10:12:21 GMT -8
Our FT shooting killed us. Even besides Ethan missing that one to tie I can't remember a Beavs team under WT that shoots very well from the charity stripe, especially in tight games, down the stretch......it's happened time and time again for years.
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Post by beaverbeliever71 on Dec 3, 2020 10:20:42 GMT -8
Our FT shooting killed us. Even besides Ethan missing that one to tie I can't remember a Beavs team under WT that shoots very well from the charity stripe, especially in tight games, down the stretch......it's happened time and time again for years. OSU actually lead the PAC 12 in FT % last season.. set a school record in FT%
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Post by flyfishinbeav on Dec 3, 2020 10:29:53 GMT -8
I can't remember a Beavs team under WT that shoots very well from the charity stripe, especially in tight games, down the stretch......it's happened time and time again for years. OSU actually lead the PAC 12 in FT % last season.. set a school record in FT% And that's fine....and maybe it's a shift for for the better, in the future.....but big picture is they go 1 of 2 down the stretch, in big moments, ALL THE TIME!! It's really maddening especially in these lower scoring conference games where a few points here and there are HUGE!! I would think more of an emphasis would be put on being better from the FT line.
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Post by beaverinohio on Dec 3, 2020 10:34:04 GMT -8
Our FT shooting killed us. Even besides Ethan missing that one to tie I can't remember a Beavs team under WT that shoots very well from the charity stripe, especially in tight games, down the stretch......it's happened time and time again for years. Last two years they’ve been pretty good overall as a team — 75% and 74% — and Tres was always a good free throw shooter. Prior to those years had never been over 70%. I do feel like the Thompson’s have missed their fair share in crunch time, so just felt like Ethan would miss one. Reichle is one I’ve never been able to figure out. Supposed to be a shooter, but has never broken 80%.
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Post by shelby on Dec 3, 2020 12:58:03 GMT -8
I see some rather random substitutions at odd times during the games! When we built the lead up to 10 , should have called a timeout and told them to build the lead, solid shots and no ‘stupid turnovers’ - instead , it was gone in a heartbeat . I wanted to see Potts again too - no sign 5 best guys on the floor Alatishe Calloo Lucas Tucker Ethan
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Post by alwaysorange on Dec 3, 2020 13:11:27 GMT -8
I see some rather random substitutions at odd times during the games! When we built the lead up to 10 , should have called a timeout and told them to build the lead, solid shots and no ‘stupid turnovers’ - instead , it was gone in a heartbeat . I wanted to see Potts again too - no sign 5 best guys on the floor Alatishe Calloo Lucas Tucker Ethan Last night Ethan was not one of the five best guys on the floor - not sure there were five.
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