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Post by sagebrush on Oct 3, 2020 6:13:47 GMT -8
Succumbs to pancreatic cancer. Meanest pitcher in history of the game. One year he won over 20 games with a 1.12 ERA, One guy said he pitched with pure hate and would knock his grandmother down if she looked too comfortable. Cy Young, MVP, World Series MVP HOF, restrautuer, MLB coach, broadcaster, played year for the Harlem Globetrotters. An all time great.
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Post by Werebeaver on Oct 3, 2020 7:46:57 GMT -8
Succumbs to pancreatic cancer. Meanest pitcher in history of the game. One year he won over 20 games with a 1.12 ERA, One guy said he pitched with pure hate and would knock his grandmother down if she looked too comfortable. Cy Young, MVP, World Series MVP HOF, restrautuer, MLB coach, broadcaster, played year for the Harlem Globetrotters. An all time great. Pretty amazing American life. Father died of TB before he was born; Suffered from childhood rickets; Did not sign out of high school but went to Creighton and played 4 seasons followed by a season with the Globetrotters before beginning his pro baseball career. Dominated MLB so completely that they changed the rules to give the offense a better chance, lowering the pitchers mound from 15” to 10” following the 1968 season. www.baseball-reference.com/players/g/gibsobo01.shtml |
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Post by beavaristotle on Oct 4, 2020 11:25:29 GMT -8
Rough couple of weeks. First Tom Seaver, now Gibby. Fist fight in heaven between those two for the #1 spot in the rotation. Also sweet Lou Johnson passed last week. Hit a big HR in the 7th game of the 65 World Series for the Dodgers and also scored the only run in sandy Koufax’s perfect game.
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Post by sagebrush on Oct 4, 2020 13:28:12 GMT -8
My money is on Gibby. Drysdale waiting to lay the sidearm on the guy unlucky enough to be the winner. I remember Drysdale on the intentional walk. Why waste 3 pitches. Just drill him with the first one.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Oct 4, 2020 14:09:57 GMT -8
Don Drysdale might be one of the worst pitchers in the HOF. Only two 20-game seasons. Only .557 winning percentage. Losing record last four years of his career. He definitely benefitted from his association with Koufax. Hall of Very Good, but not HOF. Other's mileage may vary.
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Post by ag87 on Oct 4, 2020 15:10:28 GMT -8
I had dinner and drinks at his bar/restaurant in Kona in January 1991 (give or take). He was not there but I think the staff said he was there a lot in the winter months.
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Post by Judge Smails on Oct 4, 2020 16:49:31 GMT -8
Don Drysdale might be one of the worst pitchers in the HOF. Only two 20-game seasons. Only .557 winning percentage. Losing record last four years of his career. He definitely benefitted from his association with Koufax. Hall of Very Good, but not HOF. Other's mileage may vary. The equivalent of Joe Namath in football. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Oct 5, 2020 8:09:31 GMT -8
Don Drysdale might be one of the worst pitchers in the HOF. Only two 20-game seasons. Only .557 winning percentage. Losing record last four years of his career. He definitely benefitted from his association with Koufax. Hall of Very Good, but not HOF. Other's mileage may vary. The equivalent of Joe Namath in football. Maybe, except that Namath gave the AFL it's first real national star, legitimized the league, and his huge signing bonus helped lead directly to the merger. As someone of the AFL era, it's impossible to underestimate Namath's impact on culture and on the leagues. He's in the HOF for both, much like Jackie Robinson, in the HOF for his playing ability (very good for only 4-5 years, because of his late start in MLB) and his off-the-field impact on the game. Like many my age, I loved Joe Namath. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Oct 5, 2020 9:22:31 GMT -8
The equivalent of Joe Namath in football. Maybe, except that Namath gave the AFL it's first real national star, legitimized the league, and his huge signing bonus helped lead directly to the merger. As someone of the AFL era, it's impossible to underestimate Namath's impact on culture and on the leagues. He's in the HOF for both, much like Jackie Robinson, in the HOF for his playing ability (very good for only 4-5 years, because of his late start in MLB) and his off-the-field impact on the game. Like many my age, I loved Joe Namath. He’s the worst QB in the Hall. You should be in for your play, not the other stuff. Maybe Curt Flood should be in the MLB Hall then. He changed the game. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Oct 5, 2020 10:07:43 GMT -8
Maybe, except that Namath gave the AFL it's first real national star, legitimized the league, and his huge signing bonus helped lead directly to the merger. As someone of the AFL era, it's impossible to underestimate Namath's impact on culture and on the leagues. He's in the HOF for both, much like Jackie Robinson, in the HOF for his playing ability (very good for only 4-5 years, because of his late start in MLB) and his off-the-field impact on the game. Like many my age, I loved Joe Namath. He’s the worst QB in the Hall. You should be in for your play, not the other stuff. Maybe Curt Flood should be in the MLB Hall then. He changed the game. Canseco too, for bringing the steroid problem to light. Oh, and his fielding. |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Oct 5, 2020 11:20:10 GMT -8
Maybe, except that Namath gave the AFL it's first real national star, legitimized the league, and his huge signing bonus helped lead directly to the merger. As someone of the AFL era, it's impossible to underestimate Namath's impact on culture and on the leagues. He's in the HOF for both, much like Jackie Robinson, in the HOF for his playing ability (very good for only 4-5 years, because of his late start in MLB) and his off-the-field impact on the game. Like many my age, I loved Joe Namath. He’s the worst QB in the Hall. You should be in for your play, not the other stuff. Maybe Curt Flood should be in the MLB Hall then. He changed the game. Many are in the HOF for their contributions to FB in addition to their actual exploits on the field. The signing of Joe Namath led the the AFL's first major TV contract. His play and fame legitimized the league, leading to the merger. He led the first AFL team to win the Super Bowl. He was a cultural icon of millions. He certainly belongs in the HOF. Curt Flood did not change the game. He lost his lawsuit. He only started to set in motion the process that finally ended the reserve clause. Marvin Miller, OTOH, should have been in the HOF at least a decade before he was inducted. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Oct 5, 2020 11:42:21 GMT -8
He’s the worst QB in the Hall. You should be in for your play, not the other stuff. Maybe Curt Flood should be in the MLB Hall then. He changed the game. Many are in the HOF for their contributions to FB in addition to their actual exploits on the field. The signing of Joe Namath led the the AFL's first major TV contract. His play and fame legitimized the league, leading to the merger. He led the first AFL team to win the Super Bowl. He was a cultural icon of millions. He certainly belongs in the HOF. Curt Flood did not change the game. He lost his lawsuit. He only started to set in motion the process that finally ended the reserve clause. Marvin Miller, OTOH, should have been in the HOF at least a decade before he was inducted. Yep. It’s the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Stats. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Oct 5, 2020 11:48:45 GMT -8
Many are in the HOF for their contributions to FB in addition to their actual exploits on the field. The signing of Joe Namath led the the AFL's first major TV contract. His play and fame legitimized the league, leading to the merger. He led the first AFL team to win the Super Bowl. He was a cultural icon of millions. He certainly belongs in the HOF. Curt Flood did not change the game. He lost his lawsuit. He only started to set in motion the process that finally ended the reserve clause. Marvin Miller, OTOH, should have been in the HOF at least a decade before he was inducted. Yep. It’s the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Stats. Fine, you should put Tebow in then. He’s a cultural icon and not for wearing panty hose. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Oct 5, 2020 11:51:04 GMT -8
Yep. It’s the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Stats. Fine, you should put Tebow in then. He’s a cultural icon and not for wearing panty hose. Who is Tebow? |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Oct 5, 2020 12:00:46 GMT -8
Yep. It’s the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Stats. Fine, you should put Tebow in then. He’s a cultural icon and not for wearing panty hose. Tim Tebow probably will make the College Football Hall of Fame. And deservedly so. He was a tremendous college quarterback. |
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