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Post by sagebrush on May 24, 2020 16:05:17 GMT -8
This time, domestic battery. Think ESPN or the Pac-12 will hire him again after he gets out this time,
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Post by TheGlove on May 24, 2020 16:52:24 GMT -8
Nope
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Post by irimi on May 25, 2020 7:52:56 GMT -8
I was teaching at WSU back when he was there. There was a rumor that he was using a computer lab when it was time to close. The lab monitor told him that it was time to close, and Leaf pulled the “don’t you know who I am?” And threw the guy up against a wall.
It stayed a rumor because the powers that be covered it up very, very well.
He was fun to watch on the college field, but damn, what a failure in real life.
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Post by Werebeaver on May 25, 2020 8:22:27 GMT -8
This is reported as misdemeanor domestic battery. Don't know much more about it than that.
Appears that his rehab is still a work in progress.
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Post by sagebrush on May 25, 2020 9:37:03 GMT -8
5K bail doesn't sound so misdemeanor to me. Maybe from friends hard at work for him in the system.
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Post by seastape on May 25, 2020 15:00:41 GMT -8
5K bail doesn't sound so misdemeanor to me. Maybe from friends hard at work for him in the system. 5k bail sounds misdemeanor to me under a lot (but not all) circumstances. I'm a criminal defense lawyer by trade. |
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Post by seastape on May 25, 2020 15:36:55 GMT -8
I looked up the bail schedule in Riverside County. Here it is: www.riverside.courts.ca.gov/Divisions/Criminal/bailschedule.pdf?rev=03-25-2020-11:55:06pmOn April 6, 2020, the California Judicial Council, presided over by the Chief Justice of the California Supreme Court, issued emergency orders regarding bail in California Counties in light of the Covid-19 crisis. The goal was to severely reduce the jail population because of the real danger that the virus would spread like wildfire in jails. Emergency Rule #4 reduced bail to $0 for almost all misdemeanors and many nonviolent felonies. Emergency Rule provided exceptions to 13 enumerated crimes that were NOT subject to the $0 bail order. There is also a loophole in Emergency Rule 4 that allows counties to set bail even on cases in which the defendant was not charged with one of the 13 exceptions. Notably, two of the 13 exceptions to Emergency Rule #4 were two DV crimes, including 1) a violation of Penal Code 273.6, which is a violation of a domestic violence protective order and 2) a violation of Penal Code 273.5, which is a domestic violence battery that results in a traumatic condition to the victim. A 273.5 is essentially enhanced version of a 243(e)(1), which is a domestic violence battery that doesn't leave a mark. A "battery" is a harmful or offensive contact and a "traumatic condition" is a mark left on the victim of a dv battery. The mark can be as little as a small bruise, a scratch, or red marks as if someone had a body part squeezed too hard. As you can see from the Riverside emergency bail schedule for which I provided a link, bail for a misdemeanor 273.5 is set at $5k. This leads me to conclude that Leaf is accused of that crime or that he committed the lesser offense of a 243(e)(1) but bail was ordered despite emergency rule #4 because Leaf has a criminal record that includes drugs and a felony burglary. |
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Post by ag87 on May 25, 2020 19:56:02 GMT -8
Actual real information here - a first for everything 😉
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 25, 2020 20:14:13 GMT -8
Actual real information here - a first for everything 😉 It was bound to happen eventually....... |
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Post by atownbeaver on May 26, 2020 10:29:41 GMT -8
Ryan Leaf was a piece of crap for a long time. I think recently he had been trying really hard, and what was refreshing was how much self-awareness he seemed to have about how much of a piece of crap he was. I had heard him on a couple shows and podcasts and he was quick to point out all his issues was his own, he treated other people badly and all that. I think he was not taking his second (third? forth?, fifth?) chance for granted. So this is a big oof.
I don't know any of the details here, but I do know that addiction sucks and it is a life long battle. the things that made Ryan leaf a piece of crap for his first 30+ years of life do not magically go away overnight.
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Post by Werebeaver on Jun 3, 2020 12:11:43 GMT -8
Ryan Leaf was a piece of crap for a long time. I think recently he had been trying really hard, and what was refreshing was how much self-awareness he seemed to have about how much of a piece of crap he was. I had heard him on a couple shows and podcasts and he was quick to point out all his issues was his own, he treated other people badly and all that. I think he was not taking his second (third? forth?, fifth?) chance for granted. So this is a big oof. I don't know any of the details here, but I do know that addiction sucks and it is a life long battle. the things that made Ryan leaf a piece of crap for his first 30+ years of life do not magically go away overnight. And assault happens by folks that have no substance abuse issues as well as those who do. So we really don't know whether this misdemeanor assault charge is connected to his substance abuse history or not. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Jun 3, 2020 12:39:14 GMT -8
Ryan Leaf was a piece of crap for a long time. I think recently he had been trying really hard, and what was refreshing was how much self-awareness he seemed to have about how much of a piece of crap he was. I had heard him on a couple shows and podcasts and he was quick to point out all his issues was his own, he treated other people badly and all that. I think he was not taking his second (third? forth?, fifth?) chance for granted. So this is a big oof. I don't know any of the details here, but I do know that addiction sucks and it is a life long battle. the things that made Ryan leaf a piece of crap for his first 30+ years of life do not magically go away overnight. And assault happens by folks that have no substance abuse issues as well as those who do. So we really don't know whether this misdemeanor assault charge is connected to his substance abuse history or not. Or from quarantine. I understand DV rates have risen sharply since the shutdown. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 3, 2020 13:28:16 GMT -8
And assault happens by folks that have no substance abuse issues as well as those who do. So we really don't know whether this misdemeanor assault charge is connected to his substance abuse history or not. Or from quarantine. I understand DV rates have risen sharply since the shutdown.The numbers do not support that. Domestic violence rates are down between 13-23% in Arizona, Illinois, and Texas (only states that I could easily find) since quarantine started. Usually, you would expect to see an uptick in domestic violence rates in the same time period. Total crime numbers appear to be down even more sharply, though, so take the foregoing with a grain of salt. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Jun 3, 2020 14:42:11 GMT -8
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 3, 2020 20:54:00 GMT -8
I don't read the Times on principle. (That principle being that I don't pay to read the Times.  ) Did you actually read the other two articles? The Economist article indicates that coronavirus saw an immediate spike but that cases went down in early April. It then qualifies that by saying that data may be incomplete. (Hint. It's not.) CNN's article says that domestic violence has gone up in 9 of 20 cities. In order to get to 9, the CNN article has to use two different ways of calculating its numbers: (1) comparing March 2020 to March 2019 and (2) comparing March 2020 to earlier parts of 2020. (There is well-known general increase in violent crime as temperatures increase, so the numbers that do not compare 2020 to 2019 are mostly worthless.) Both completely ignore April. The data that I have read in Arizona, Illinois, and Texas shows domestic violence down in April. I have yet to see May. I judge by the fact that there are no articles from the clickbait media that domestic violence numbers are probably still down around 13-23% or maybe even more. So, I am going to continue to disagree with your disagreement. |
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