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Post by rmancarl on May 6, 2020 15:49:38 GMT -8
Ok, so the Beavs could use an additional guard for 2020. I don't think anyone disputes that, but for 2021, there REALLY looks to be a need for a point guard. I hope to get some help from beaverwwb, or others who follow recruiting closely, but here's what we know right now (recruiting is always quiet around the Beavs, so you don't hear as much as you do with other programs, so finding out who the Beavs are actually recruiting, and how strongly they are recruiting them, is not an easy task)
1---The Beavs could land a transfer this year, or next, who could step in the the PG role in 2021. So far, it's been pretty quiet in this regard, but sometimes it happens fast, and there is a lot of time to land a transfer if you are looking at 2021
2---Talia Von Oelhoffen I'm not sure she is a true PG, but some on this board consider her one. She played just about every position in High School, and has enough talent that she could probably play point for the Beavs much as Mik did a couple years back. Competition for her is going to be very tough, with every indication it's a battle between the Beavs, Stanford, and UCLA.
3--Kimora Jenkins---Pure speculation, but I'm guessing Kimora, and the next two I'm going to list are plan B if Talia goes elsewhere. Overall, I like what I've seen from Kimora. There seems to be mutual interest between the Beavs and Kimora. On social media Kimora follow SR and BH, and her Mom follows BH and beaverwbb. Overall, BH follows 3 of Kimora's family, and her High School coach. Kimora is picking up more offers each week now, with Seton Hall and West Virginia being a couple of her latest.
4--Txell Alarcon, from Spain--BH and JC are following her, and BH follows another family member of Txell's. If the Beavs have serious interest, it looks like Rutgers would be the main competition.
5--Anna Gret Asi---from the huge country of Estonia. An interesting recruit who wants to play in the USA. She won the MVP of BWB (Basketball without Borders) Europe last year, and came to the US for BWB in Chicago in February, where she won the 3pt shooting contest. I don't find much interest in her from US schools other than Kansas, who has HC and Assistant coaches presence on her social media, and she has a couple of Oregon assistants (yes, including Campbell) on her list. BH follows her for the Beavs, but I haven't seen any other interest on the Beavers end.
6---Breanne Salenbien---Although mostly known as a wing, I'll throw her in the PG category only because she played PG all last summer on her AAU team. Currently out with an ACL injury which will probably lead her to miss most of her senior season, it will be interesting to see how her recruitment goes. Although the Beavs have shown interest, and assistant coaches follow her and her family, I haven't heard even a whisper that shows the Beavs are recruiting her heavily, or that she has much interest in the Beavs.
That's the little 'noise' I've heard. Anybody else hearing anything regarding possible PG recruits for 2021?
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Post by beaverwbb fan on May 6, 2020 18:04:32 GMT -8
From what I’ve heard about Talia:
I’m not quite sure when she will make her decision, but I believe Oregon State, Stanford, and UCLA are the most likely choices here. Oklahoma would be a very interesting choice, and I do not believe UConn is recruiting her (they already added a few off-guards in 2021). She has visited Stanford and Oregon State, but I don’t believe she has visited UCLA or Oklahoma. If she does make a decision soon, it will be between Oregon State and Stanford.
Another thing that I believe bodes well for Oregon State is Rueck is recruiting her as a point guard, which is what she wants to play in college. She has the size, handle, court vision, and scoring ability to be a very good PG at Oregon State. Almost similar to Wiese.
Stanford will be tough to beat out, especially after missing on a few of their top targets.
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Post by beaveragain on May 6, 2020 18:17:07 GMT -8
Yes, OSU needs a back up PG next season. No idea where that is going to come from. But expecting Aleah to put in 40 minutes every game isn't realistic.
On Talia, although she isn't referred to as a PG almost all of her mentions include comments about her passing ability. But she is usually called a wing. Also the other competition for her includes UConn and Oklahoma. If she wants to play right away it's between OSU, UCLA and Okies. And if she chooses Coach Coales it's over something that the other teams can't beat like "she's believed in me since I was 12" sort of thing.
I know nothing about any other PG's prospects.
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Post by sparty on May 6, 2020 19:54:31 GMT -8
Yes, OSU needs a back up PG next season. No idea where that is going to come from. But expecting Aleah to put in 40 minutes every game isn't realistic. On Talia, although she isn't referred to as a PG almost all of her mentions include comments about her passing ability. But she is usually called a wing. Also the other competition for her includes UConn and Oklahoma. If she wants to play right away it's between OSU, UCLA and Okies. And if she chooses Coach Coales it's over something that the other teams can't beat like "she's believed in me since I was 12" sort of thing. I know nothing about any other PG's prospects. Exactly, badly need a back up next season. Anyone who does not think so is whistling past the graveyard.  |
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Post by beav74 on May 8, 2020 19:10:21 GMT -8
Jaden Owens from UCLA transfers to Baylor. Could open up a spot on the roster for Talia....Hope not!
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Post by rmancarl on May 11, 2020 10:58:51 GMT -8
The mutual interest between the Beavs and Kimora Jenkins seems to be growing as Kimora and KF began following each other on twitter today. Kimora (kimmie) is definitely a PG recruit to keep your eye on and see if anything develops here. Kimora is from New York, and has a twin sister who is a good enough basketball player to receive some small college offers (I believe Grambling State is one). Kimora has several offers. Her most recent being Seton Hall and West Virginia. I'll see if I can track down some of her other offers.
Three points guards we thought may have interest in the Beavs months ago, Ally Stedman, Juliana Walker and Jayda Curry don't seem to be receiving any attention from the beavs.
Ravin Johnson, also known as "Hollywood", player of the year in Georgia this year, and the teammate of Savannah Samuel on FBC United Hunt last summer still seems to be open on her recruitment. Although her and BH follow each other on twitter, there doesn't seem to be a big interest between her and the Beavs. Sometimes you never know about the Beavs though. They do a good job of keeping their recruiting under wraps.
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Post by newduke2 on May 11, 2020 12:49:52 GMT -8
The mutual interest between the Beavs and Kimora Jenkins seems to be growing as Kimora and KF began following each other on twitter today. Kimora (kimmie) is definitely a PG recruit to keep your eye on and see if anything develops here. Kimora is from New York, and has a twin sister who is a good enough basketball player to receive some small college offers (I believe Grambling State is one). Kimora has several offers. Her most recent being Seton Hall and West Virginia. I'll see if I can track down some of her other offers. Three points guards we thought may have interest in the Beavs months ago, Ally Stedman, Juliana Walker and Jayda Curry don't seem to be receiving any attention from the beavs. Ravin Johnson, also known as "Hollywood", player of the year in Georgia this year, and the teammate of Savannah Samuel on FBC United Hunt last summer still seems to be open on her recruitment. Although her and BH follow each other on twitter, there doesn't seem to be a big interest between her and the Beavs. Sometimes you never know about the Beavs though. They do a good job of keeping their recruiting under wraps. Kimora Jenkins also has offers from East Carolina and probably Georgia. Also "receiving heavy interest from Michigan." Info from BriaHolmesElite twitter. |
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Post by newduke2 on May 11, 2020 15:08:57 GMT -8
Kimora also has offers from St Bonaventure, Lafayette College, University of Hartford, Hofstra University, University of Massachusetts, (Georgia offer is confirmed). All eastern schools....would she want to come to the West Coast like Ellie Mack?
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Post by bvrbooster on May 11, 2020 16:49:33 GMT -8
Kimora also has offers from St Bonaventure, Lafayette College, University of Hartford, Hofstra University, University of Massachusetts, (Georgia offer is confirmed). All eastern schools....would she want to come to the West Coast like Ellie Mack? Two different scenarios. Mack is a more mature person, not leaving home for the first time, and only looking at one year. It's a bit of a broadening of the horizons adventure, plus a big time step up in the level of basketball. Jenkins is a teenager who is leaving home for the first time, presumably for 4 years. Apples and oranges. That being said, plenty of kids cross the continent to play at schools like Connecticut, Maryland, Louisville, or Tennessee. The planes travel in both directions, and kids come this way too. Greta's coming from Chicago, which isn't all that much closer than New York. We'll see. |
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Post by newduke2 on May 11, 2020 17:34:42 GMT -8
Kimora also has offers from St Bonaventure, Lafayette College, University of Hartford, Hofstra University, University of Massachusetts, (Georgia offer is confirmed). All eastern schools....would she want to come to the West Coast like Ellie Mack? Two different scenarios. Mack is a more mature person, not leaving home for the first time, and only looking at one year. It's a bit of a broadening of the horizons adventure, plus a big time step up in the level of basketball. Jenkins is a teenager who is leaving home for the first time, presumably for 4 years. Apples and oranges. That being said, plenty of kids cross the continent to play at schools like Connecticut, Maryland, Louisville, or Tennessee. The planes travel in both directions, and kids come this way too. Greta's coming from Chicago, which isn't all that much closer than New York. We'll see. Good points....and Savannah Samuel is coming all the way from Georgia which, like New York, is also on the east coast  So, it's no stretch that another could do the same. Watching Kimora's high school BB tapes, she looks very athletic like Savannah and Sasha Goforth. I think she would be a welcome addition. She is now listed as 6'1" and has played PG, SG, SF, and PF. This suggests good versatility. |
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Post by rmancarl on May 11, 2020 19:15:19 GMT -8
Everything I've read is that those who've wathed her say that they really expected her recruitment to jump this summer. No AAU ball may keep her from getting recognized more. Along with those already mentioned Kimora has received an offer from Penn. She's posted her favorite assist, and her favorite baskets from this past season on her twitter for those interested. Of course, as someone said, you never see the highlights of a player's worst turnovers and air balls. |
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Post by alwaysorange on May 12, 2020 7:15:25 GMT -8
Just a question. Is this a sign of desperation for a point guard? Her offers are not exactly from top D1 programs.
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Post by newduke2 on May 12, 2020 8:40:27 GMT -8
Just a question. Is this a sign of desperation for a point guard? Her offers are not exactly from top D1 programs. The word "desperation" seems harsh IMO. Some might call it point guard "Plan B". |
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Post by beavershoopsfan on May 12, 2020 8:59:37 GMT -8
I think that all of us who support the OSU WBB program lament the reality that the highest-ranked point guards in the country (with the exception of the transfer in Slocum) are not choosing Corvallis as their destination of choice. OSU has been able to get itself into the final mix with a number of top-rated point guards (Kiana Williams, Caitlyn Clark, perhaps Hailey Van Lith) during the past four years, but has missed out in the end and has spent considerable time and effort chasing players who dropped the Beavers late in their selection process. That is the nature of recruiting as you have to be in the final mix to have a shot of landing the big prizes.
OSU has a very personable and likable set of coaches, an established Top 15 national program, and competes in the nation's top conference for women's basketball. What isn't appealing to top point guards is most likely the offensive system that OSU employs and the grind-it-out/limited transition style of play. There is no hiding that. It is on display every time the Beavs are on regional or national television.
It is encouraging that the Beavs have been reeling in players from Arkansas, Georgia, Texas, Kansas, and Illinois in the past two years. That is a testament to the "We Are Family" culture that OSU's recruiting efforts have emphasized to land those out-of-state recruits.
For a point guard, a program's offensive style of play/tempo is a significant factor that often greatly influences the recruit's ultimate college choice. I really don't foresee top-ranked point guards embracing the preferred tempo that OSU chooses to utilize. I don't anticipate that OSU will be changing its offensive preferences any time soon. So, I have become resigned to OSU having to recruit lower-ranked/more under-the-radar point guards who fit the program's culture and hope that we get lucky again in finding a Sydney Wiese-type point guard in the near future who can develop into a WNBA-caliber floor leader.
I get my hopes up every year that a top point guard recruit will commit to OSU. I have to be realistic in trying to understand why the nation's top point guards prefer to go elsewhere.
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Post by rmancarl on May 12, 2020 9:27:14 GMT -8
Just a question. Is this a sign of desperation for a point guard? Her offers are not exactly from top D1 programs. To answer the "just a question"....First, I'm fairly confident Kimora is plan "B" in case Talia V doesn't choose the Beavs, and maybe even if Talia does choose the Beavs. Defending Kimora just a bit, most of those smaller offers you see are from earlier in her recruitment. Her more recent offers are from Georgia, Penn, Seton Hall, and West Virginia, and reported strong interest from Michigan (and obvious interest from Oregon State). That's not a bad bunch. Take a look at West Virginia's history and you will see they are a top 30 team pretty much every year. I think Kimora has been a bit underexposed and has come on strong lately. I found a few different comments where observers thought her recruitment was about to explode this summer. That was before AAU tournaments ended up getting cancelled. Personally, rather than an act of desperation, I think if the Beavs land her, they are getting a bit of a steal. No, I'm not saying she is a top 10, or even a top 50 player, but she has a lot of the foundation you are looking for, and she puts in the work. She's been described as a pass first point guard, which would be perfect down the road if she's playing along side Sasha, Greta, Taylor, and Kennedy. Are there some other points guards on the board that are still available and higher ranked? Sure, but unless the Beavs can make headway with them, Kimora is a good second choice who I think has a shot at playing at the level of some of those ranked higher than her. Saying all of that though, I think Kimora is a long shot to land with the Beavs. Even if the Beavs offer, she has strong family ties in New York, and some decent offers back east. |
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So, it's no stretch that another could do the same.