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Post by nwhoopfan on Mar 9, 2020 13:03:03 GMT -8
Gonzaga just lost in the WCC semifinal to Portland. They were a #3 seed in the latest bracketology, how far will this drop them? Would be huge if it costs them hosting 1st/2nd round.
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Mar 9, 2020 13:19:00 GMT -8
Gonzaga just lost in the WCC semifinal to Portland. They were a #3 seed in the latest bracketology, how far will this drop them? Would be huge if it costs them hosting 1st/2nd round. Based upon Gonzaga's RPI and the projected #4 seeds, I don't think that Gonzaga will fall further than a #4. Would like to see the Zags get a chance to host after the difficult end that they had at the end of last season. |
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Post by bennyskid on Mar 9, 2020 13:22:23 GMT -8
Gonzaga just lost in the WCC semifinal to Portland. And somewhere another team falls off the bubble . . . |
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Post by nwhoopfan on Mar 9, 2020 13:41:27 GMT -8
Gonzaga just lost in the WCC semifinal to Portland. And somewhere another team falls off the bubble . . . The bubble is so soft this year, they all deserve to miss the Tourney.
I can't for the life of me figure out why USC isn't a bubble team when I see some of the weak teams that are. It's all about working the RPI. You don't have to beat anyone significant, not even 1 good team, as long as you don't play RPI killers. It's so stupid.
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Post by lotrader on Mar 9, 2020 14:21:54 GMT -8
Gonzaga just lost in the WCC semifinal to Portland. They were a #3 seed in the latest bracketology, how far will this drop them? Would be huge if it costs them hosting 1st/2nd round. Based upon Gonzaga's RPI and the projected #4 seeds, I don't think that Gonzaga will fall further than a #4. Would like to see the Zags get a chance to host after the difficult end that they had at the end of last season. Then the question which #4 seed becomes the #3 seed? Arizona? Iowa? |
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Post by nwhoopfan on Mar 9, 2020 14:49:13 GMT -8
Based upon Gonzaga's RPI and the projected #4 seeds, I don't think that Gonzaga will fall further than a #4. Would like to see the Zags get a chance to host after the difficult end that they had at the end of last season. Then the question which #4 seed becomes the #3 seed? Arizona? Iowa? It would be really hard to see Iowa moving up a seed line after getting blown out by a so so Ohio St. team in their only game in the Big 10 tourney. |
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Mar 9, 2020 15:55:06 GMT -8
Creme just stated that Arizona has moved up to a #3 seed following Gonzaga's upset loss today.
The Beavs remain a projected #4 seed slated for Greenville, according to Creme. UCLA is the #3 seed in that regional. South Carolina is the #1 there.
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Mar 9, 2020 18:18:04 GMT -8
DePaul won the Big East tourney today and likely solidified its #4 seed.
Creme seems to think that the Beavs will be a #4 as well. I'm worried a bit about Indiana's resume and RPI as potentially being worthy of a #4. Creme currently projects Indiana as a #5.
Anybody out there feel good about OSU beating out Indiana for that final #4 hosting seed? If so, please share your rationale to provide Beaver Nation with some reassurance. OSU is solidly ahead of Indiana in both the most recent AP and USA Today/Coaches Polls, but Indiana has some quality wins and a stronger RPI than OSU.
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Post by bennyskid on Mar 9, 2020 20:16:02 GMT -8
Well, the case for Indiana was just as strong last week as it is today, and last week the committee put us at #15 and Indiana outside the Reveal.
As for everyone else . . . since the reveal OSU beat WSU and lost to #7 Stanford.
Iowa was ahead of us, but lost to unranked Ohio State by 21 in their only game since. They might drop behind us.
Depaul was #16 and won their tournament, but faced no ranked opposition. It seems unlikely that they'll pass OSU up, esp. as we have the head-to-head victory.
The candidates outside the Reveal that hope to take our spot include:
Missouri State - faced no ranked opposition this week, and also lost the head-to-head. They won't pass OSU.
Indiana - beat Rutgers, lost to Maryland. If they were behind OSU before, they are still behind OSU.
Florida State - upset Louisville, then lost to NC State. They likely have risen a few notches.
Texas A&M - lost to Arkansas. They won't pass OSU.
In sum, there is one team that might pass us (FSU), and one that might drop below (Iowa). We can afford to lose one spot, but most likely we'll stay exactly where we are.
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 9, 2020 20:46:57 GMT -8
Well, the case for Indiana was just as strong last week as it is today, and last week the committee put us at #15 and Indiana outside the Reveal. As for everyone else . . . since the reveal OSU beat WSU and lost to #7 Stanford. Iowa was ahead of us, but lost to unranked Ohio State by 21 in their only game since. They might drop behind us. Depaul was #16 and won their tournament, but faced no ranked opposition. It seems unlikely that they'll pass OSU up, esp. as we have the head-to-head victory. The candidates outside the Reveal that hope to take our spot include: Missouri State - faced no ranked opposition this week, and also lost the head-to-head. They won't pass OSU. Indiana - beat Rutgers, lost to Maryland. If they were behind OSU before, they are still behind OSU. Florida State - upset Louisville, then lost to NC State. They likely have risen a few notches. Texas A&M - lost to Arkansas. They won't pass OSU. In sum, there is one team that might pass us (FSU), and one that might drop below (Iowa). We can afford to lose one spot, but most likely we'll stay exactly where we are. The issue with the head to head is that in some cases those teams played better afterward. In terms of the committee OSU faded, and no matter the conference a team plays in, head to head isn't the main factor. A team that's a 5/6 seed that wins a conference tournament is going to move up vs a 1-1 team in their tournament. There are at least 2 teams that could legitimately move up to a 4 without much argument. The Zags down to a 4? Hoping OSU keeps their slot, but they really didn't earn it. They beat and lost to teams they were supposed. They needed to beat a team they weren't suppose to. Hence, they are at the mercy of a committee. |
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Post by beaveragain on Mar 9, 2020 22:11:53 GMT -8
Naw, they earned it over a season of sweat, effort and battling adversity.
Go BEAV'S
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 10, 2020 10:12:44 GMT -8
Naw, they earned it over a season of sweat, effort and battling adversity. Go BEAV'S That's every WBB team. They all work their collective asses off. They all face adversities. Being selected for a seeding actually has little to do with that. It's a committee focusing on outside factors... auto berths, matchups, ticket sales, last 10, RPI... team and conference. And, in some cases decisions make no effing sense! But, the work that each team puts in and adversities faced are a given for every team. |
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Mar 10, 2020 12:08:13 GMT -8
Well, the case for Indiana was just as strong last week as it is today, and last week the committee put us at #15 and Indiana outside the Reveal. As for everyone else . . . since the reveal OSU beat WSU and lost to #7 Stanford. Iowa was ahead of us, but lost to unranked Ohio State by 21 in their only game since. They might drop behind us. Depaul was #16 and won their tournament, but faced no ranked opposition. It seems unlikely that they'll pass OSU up, esp. as we have the head-to-head victory. The candidates outside the Reveal that hope to take our spot include: Missouri State - faced no ranked opposition this week, and also lost the head-to-head. They won't pass OSU. Indiana - beat Rutgers, lost to Maryland. If they were behind OSU before, they are still behind OSU. Florida State - upset Louisville, then lost to NC State. They likely have risen a few notches. Texas A&M - lost to Arkansas. They won't pass OSU. In sum, there is one team that might pass us (FSU), and one that might drop below (Iowa). We can afford to lose one spot, but most likely we'll stay exactly where we are. Thanks for the reasoned analysis. I checked on FSU today. It has a SOS of 57 and an RPI of 31. I don't think that FSU will overtake OSU, but one never knows until the actual reveal on March 16. |
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Post by nwhoopfan on Mar 10, 2020 14:37:53 GMT -8
Portland beat San Diego in OT to get an auto bid. I would expect a short bus ride for the Pilots to their first round destination. Congrats to them, picked to finish last in their conference in preseason. They have a really nice Fr. forward from Australia, Alex Fowler. Only 1 Sr., first year head coach, looks like he has them going in the right direction (finished 4th in regular season).
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Post by markwbeaver on Mar 10, 2020 14:55:44 GMT -8
I'm sure most of you know this, but U of Portland's first-year coach is Michael Meek, who was Scott Rueck's successor at George Fox.
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