osu82
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Post by osu82 on Jan 19, 2020 21:47:28 GMT -8
Brown going 1-9 is a big issue. Her inefficiency is puzzling, but has been a major issue. I think Sasha will be similar to Lexie Hull. Long, defensive stud, and can score it. Combined 1-6 behind the arc from Goodman and Tudor doesn't help either. Is Aleah ever gonna get going this season? Hasn't had a good game since late November. Well, Rueck makes $800K/yr to figure this stuff out, but maybe it's time to move Aleah back to the 6th man spot, move Kat back to starting at the 3. Aleah thrived there last year. Not that Kat is shooting well, but maybe changing the dynamic some would help get this team out of its shooting slump. Kat started all 34 games as a sophomore. If their team shooting continues this way against the upper tier Pac-12 teams, they're going to have a tough time winning consistently. |
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Post by steinlager on Jan 19, 2020 22:28:43 GMT -8
There are times when I wish OSU's defense forced more TOs. I know that's not what they are predicated on, but one could hope. I know it's not an element of the defense Rueck likes to coach, but OSU is ranked #346 out of 348 D-1 teams in forced turnovers and #331 in turnover margin. It would help them get some easier transition redibaskets, and help mitigate the turnover differential OSU has against most teams if they could change this up a bit. Unfortunately, this seems to be a characteristic of Rueck's teams, for whatever reason. His defense is predicated on forcing tough shots, not turnovers. Getting steals and run outs would be nice though. |
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Post by blastingsand on Jan 19, 2020 23:25:04 GMT -8
Everyone thought we were going to rocked last year too, but ended beating them (even though Hebard was injured) last year.
The ducks are inconsistent in their play also, just have enough talent to blow out scrubs when everyone is playing bad. We will see what happens this year.
Historically this team has players that play like an AA in the civil war and it will happen again. Looking at you Aleah Goodman.
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Post by pitbeavs on Jan 19, 2020 23:52:44 GMT -8
I have no idea what game some of you are watching. That "foul" on Pivec was a complete flop by Prochtel who fouled Pivec first with an elbow across her face, and then threw herself to the ground AFTER Pivec was by her. Should have been a technical for flopping. The officiating in this game has been abysmal. Pivec drives the lane, their big comes over and knocks her 3 feet sideways... no call and Pac-12 commentators drool over the "great defense". This crew is either really bad, or forgot where this game is being played. It's like we were the road team today. They got away with a ton of banging all game long. Why? If you just get all amped up and run around fast do fouls stop being fouls? This game was terribly officiated. Not unusual in the Pac-12 I'm afraid. That said. We are going to find tough sledding in this conference if we don't find a way to play through the physical play. Especially if we are allowed to be banged around in our own gym. Lol.... oh my Cry more. OSU had the best player on the floor. The best TEAM won. Today. Excuse makers need not cry OSU plays more games. I expect to hear the "Fire Rueck because he doesn't get us into the Final Four every year!" Geez Louise, people. Get a gripe. They come up short and you boys start over analyzing. Well, "If Mik hadn't burped when she took that shot," "It was a bad call," "It's all Destiny's fault because she should be expected to score all of their points, when needed," and "I know these are 18-22 year old women, but golly gee, they should have the nerves of Navy Seals." Wah <sniff sniff> "It's not fair!" |
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Post by sparty on Jan 20, 2020 6:48:05 GMT -8
Everyone thought we were going to rocked last year too, but ended beating them (even though Hebard was injured) last year. The ducks are inconsistent in their play also, just have enough talent to blow out scrubs when everyone is playing bad. We will see what happens this year. Historically this team has players that play like an AA in the civil war and it will happen again. Looking at you Aleah Goodman. I don't classify Stanford as a scrub. |
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Jan 20, 2020 7:14:20 GMT -8
Literally the same thing happened last year. Oregon blew out Stanford while Oregon State looked meh against Stanford and then both Civil War games were extremely competitive.
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Post by wbosh15 on Jan 20, 2020 7:20:00 GMT -8
Literally the same thing happened last year. Oregon blew out Stanford while Oregon State looked meh against Stanford and then both Civil War games were extremely competitive. The Beavs didn’t look meh vs Stanford last year, they got throttled by Stanford by 17 points. |
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Post by ricke71 on Jan 20, 2020 8:18:27 GMT -8
Combined 1-6 behind the arc from Goodman and Tudor doesn't help either. Is Aleah ever gonna get going this season? Hasn't had a good game since late November. Well, Rueck makes $800K/yr to figure this stuff out, but maybe it's time to move Aleah back to the 6th man spot, move Kat back to starting at the 3. Aleah thrived there last year. Not that Kat is shooting well, but maybe changing the dynamic some would help get this team out of its shooting slump. Kat started all 34 games as a sophomore. If their team shooting continues this way against the upper tier Pac-12 teams, they're going to have a tough time winning consistently. May be a valid point re: Aleah. She only started 3 games last season as a sophomore. Coming into a game after observing for half of the first Q might be strong suit. Because Kat is so far off from her pre-injury self (i.e. her shot arc) it causes me to think that starting her in place of Aleah is not the answer. A shot with that extreme amount of arc is automatically low percentage, based on simple physics. Maybe at some point, if Aleah's slump continues, Simmons could get a try as a starter - say, in a couple weeks against either Utah or Colorado . Afterall, with Mik (and possibly Destiny) gone next year, the Beavs will need an increased role from her. Simmons & Tudor have nearly identical shooting % this season (Simmons with an edge on 2 pt shots). Simmons has the downside of those maddening/careless turnovers, and yet her TO/A ratio is slightly better that Kat's this season...and her rebounds per minute are better than Kat's. I realize that those are 'just' stats....and stats are a poor substitute for a more complete evaluation. At any rate, it's a problem (Aleah's offensive woes) that few would have predicted 2 months ago - back when (in many minds, mine included) Aleah was an 'assassin'. The ideal solution is that the switch will flip, and her shooting prowess returns. |
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Post by lotrader on Jan 20, 2020 8:23:15 GMT -8
Well, Rueck makes $800K/yr to figure this stuff out, but maybe it's time to move Aleah back to the 6th man spot, move Kat back to starting at the 3. Aleah thrived there last year. Not that Kat is shooting well, but maybe changing the dynamic some would help get this team out of its shooting slump. Kat started all 34 games as a sophomore. If their team shooting continues this way against the upper tier Pac-12 teams, they're going to have a tough time winning consistently. May be a valid point re: Aleah. She only started 3 games last season as a sophomore. Coming into a game after observing for half of the first Q might be strong suit. Because Kat is so far off from her pre-injury self (i.e. her shot arc) it causes me to think that starting her in place of Aleah is not the answer. A shot with that extreme amount of arc is automatically low percentage, based on simple physics. Maybe at some point, if Aleah's slump continues, Simmons could get a try as a starter - say, in a couple weeks against either Utah or Colorado . Afterall, with Mik (and possibly Destiny) gone next year, the Beavs will need an increased role from her. Simmons & Tudor have nearly identical shooting % this season (Simmons with an edge on 2 pt shots). Simmons has the downside of those maddening/careless turnovers, and yet her TO/A ratio is slightly better that Kat's this season...and her rebounds per minute are better than Kat's. I realize that those are 'just' stats....and stats are a poor substitute for a more complete evaluation. At any rate, it's a problem (Aleah's offensive woes) that few would have predicted 2 months ago - back when (in many minds, mine included) Aleah was an 'assassin'. The ideal solution is that the switch will flip, and her shooting prowess returns. Aleah is a better distributor of the ball than either Jas or Kat. I don't think it matters who starts. Aleah is going to play a lot because as a point guard, she knows how to set up the offense & initiate the offensive sets. Aleah has also turned into a competent defender. Kat and Jas are also competent defenders. Rueck mixes and matches the 5 guards/wings we have, and, as I said, it doesn't matter who starts between Kat, Aleah, and Jas. Only exception is when Destiny is not in the game, Aleah is likely going to run the point. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 20, 2020 8:32:32 GMT -8
Everyone thought we were going to rocked last year too, but ended beating them (even though Hebard was injured) last year. The ducks are inconsistent in their play also, just have enough talent to blow out scrubs when everyone is playing bad. We will see what happens this year. Historically this team has players that play like an AA in the civil war and it will happen again. Looking at you Aleah Goodman. I don't classify Stanford as a scrub. Or Team USA |
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Jan 20, 2020 8:43:35 GMT -8
I don't classify Stanford as a scrub. Or Team USA They didn't blow Team USA out though? |
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Jan 20, 2020 8:48:52 GMT -8
Stanford had a long run in the second quarter (I think 11-0) when Destiny was on the bench. Not enough instant offense outside of Destiny yesterday. When teams play physical defense, it seems to really bother Pivec. She wasn't on her usual game much like she wasn't against Arizona State. She didn't play bad, she just wasn't great. Taylor had a couple of really nice post moves, and I would have preferred to see her take 10 shots instead of six. Kennedy does a lot of things well, her inability to score the ball hurts on a team that struggles to score points at times.
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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 20, 2020 9:05:31 GMT -8
Well, Rueck makes $800K/yr to figure this stuff out, but maybe it's time to move Aleah back to the 6th man spot, move Kat back to starting at the 3. Aleah thrived there last year. Not that Kat is shooting well, but maybe changing the dynamic some would help get this team out of its shooting slump. Kat started all 34 games as a sophomore. If their team shooting continues this way against the upper tier Pac-12 teams, they're going to have a tough time winning consistently. May be a valid point re: Aleah. She only started 3 games last season as a sophomore. Coming into a game after observing for half of the first Q might be strong suit. Because Kat is so far off from her pre-injury self (i.e. her shot arc) it causes me to think that starting her in place of Aleah is not the answer. A shot with that extreme amount of arc is automatically low percentage, based on simple physics. Maybe at some point, if Aleah's slump continues, Simmons could get a try as a starter - say, in a couple weeks against either Utah or Colorado . Afterall, with Mik (and possibly Destiny) gone next year, the Beavs will need an increased role from her. Simmons & Tudor have nearly identical shooting % this season (Simmons with an edge on 2 pt shots). Simmons has the downside of those maddening/careless turnovers, and yet her TO/A ratio is slightly better that Kat's this season...and her rebounds per minute are better than Kat's. I realize that those are 'just' stats....and stats are a poor substitute for a more complete evaluation. At any rate, it's a problem (Aleah's offensive woes) that few would have predicted 2 months ago - back when (in many minds, mine included) Aleah was an 'assassin'. The ideal solution is that the switch will flip, and her shooting prowess returns. A shot with higher arc is advantageous compared to a more horizontal/flatter arc. The more horizontal the angle, the less space for the ball diameter to fit between the back and front of the rim.  Based on simple geometry. |
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Jan 20, 2020 9:26:12 GMT -8
Stanford had a long run in the second quarter (I think 11-0) when Destiny was on the bench. Not enough instant offense outside of Destiny yesterday. When teams play physical defense, it seems to really bother Pivec. She wasn't on her usual game much like she wasn't against Arizona State. She didn't play bad, she just wasn't great. Taylor had a couple of really nice post moves, and I would have preferred to see her take 10 shots instead of six. Kennedy does a lot of things well, her inability to score the ball hurts on a team that struggles to score points at times. Not true. Slocum went out of the game with 5:02 left in the second quarter and OSU was up 31-27. Slocum returned at 2:22 and the score was 31-30. That was a 3-0 run on one made three-pointer. Pivec has put up with physical play for years. She obviously is a marked player now after reacting twice to that physical play. Overly physical play will bother most players. She didn't get her share of calls yesterday. Watch the replay and she how many times she was knocked off her spot and/or to the ground. I'm sure players will sometimes determine that they have to protect themselves if the refs will not. If you saw the trip by Russell that occurred prior to the Ryan altercation at ASU, you might understand that reaction a bit. |
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Jan 20, 2020 9:35:28 GMT -8
Did not realize that Slocum was in there for the majority of the Stanford’s 11-0 run.
I think I instead meant to mention the OSU scoring drought in the second quarter when Slocum was on the bench. Thank you for pointing that out.
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