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Post by jegerklog on Jan 18, 2020 19:42:05 GMT -8
Stanford's extra day of rest and preparation has been noted. I assume it is a significant factor even though Destiny was the only starter that played more than 25 min Friday night. The defense will probably continue do well but the offense will need a special game. If Stanford builds a significant lead, maybe it will be time for the 3 point shooters to throw caution to the wind and try just firing away. Coach Weisner (Jamie's father) maintained that good shooters don't think.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 18, 2020 19:59:11 GMT -8
Stanford's extra day of rest and preparation has been noted. I assume it is a significant factor even though Destiny was the only starter that played more than 25 min Friday night. The defense will probably continue do well but the offense will need a special game. If Stanford builds a significant lead, maybe it will be time for the 3 point shooters to throw caution to the wind and try just firing away. Coach Weisner (Jamie's father) maintained that good shooters don't think. Good athletes don't think. If they've practiced correctly the repetitions build the muscle memory needed. Thinking leads to split second hesitations. It leads to analysis. Analysis during competition leads to questioning confidence and throwing off natural timing. Funny, some of the biggest underachieved athletes have been the most academically intelligent. They overthink. Those that can separate when and where analysis is appropriate become the 'natural' athletes that excel under the most pressure. |
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Post by bvrbooster on Jan 18, 2020 20:49:56 GMT -8
At dinner tonight, another season ticket holder said that tomorrow's game is now sold out. I haven't heard that anywhere else, and take it with a grain of salt. Hope it's true.
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Post by rmancarl on Jan 18, 2020 20:55:43 GMT -8
I can't see Oregon losing 4 or 5 conference games this season...It could happen, of course, but I just don't see it... Depending on tomorrow's outcome it's very likely that Stanford won't lose 4 or 5 conference games either.... The mathematics of the season are already in full play, and if the Beavs lose tomorrow the odds increase dramatically that they will be looking at a 5 or 6 loss season.... Anyone can make a prediction, of course, so that's what it is..... But to my eye Oregon and Stanford are the two best teams in the Pac and it's going to be tough for anyone else to beat them.....Someone likely will.....But at the end of the season neither of them will be looking at 4 or 5 conference losses... I'm still hopin' and cheerin' for the Bears - as always....I've got tickets for the Pac 12 tourney....But that's how I see it. GO BEAVS !! If Stanford plays UCLA twice,Oregon once,and osu twice,Arizona and ASU, I suspect they will lose 2-3 games of that stretch. Don't expect them to lose to Cal,UW,Utah,WSU or Colorado. We have 6 teams that have been in the top 25 in the country from the Pac-12. It's hard to be up for every game... Stanford only plays UCLA once though (at home). They also only play Arizona and Arizona State once, but those are road games for Stanford. UCLA's loss to USU last night was big, but because they have the easiest scheudle of the big 4, they are still in good shape, especially since they already took care of business at home against the Arizona's. Of course, if injuries are a problem, UCLA may not have enough to overcome it. I agree with the statement that if the Beavs lose at home to Stanford, they are most likely looking at 5-6 losses, maybe more. I'm still looking for a win tomorrow. |
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Post by ocbeav on Jan 18, 2020 21:08:16 GMT -8
At dinner tonight, another season ticket holder said that tomorrow's game is now sold out. I haven't heard that anywhere else, and take it with a grain of salt. Hope it's true. Isn’t true for Stanford game. The ucks game is sold out. I just checked on OSUbeaver website for ticket and still some tickets left to sell. Hope for many walk in purchase to get closer to sellout. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 18, 2020 21:08:22 GMT -8
At dinner tonight, another season ticket holder said that tomorrow's game is now sold out. I haven't heard that anywhere else, and take it with a grain of salt. Hope it's true. I can only say that the OSU site shows plenty of reserved individual seats for sale at this moment. That doesn't include GA seating that isn't shown by each seat. |
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Post by sewingbeaver on Jan 18, 2020 21:24:31 GMT -8
Big game, great opportunity to play hard and win. Stay Positive, Go Beavs!!
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Post by ricke71 on Jan 19, 2020 8:17:39 GMT -8
Less than 4 hours before gametime - many seats still available, albeit they're in the upper rows.
Best available seats are center court (top row).
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Post by shelby on Jan 19, 2020 8:30:34 GMT -8
I think that Scott 'sitting' some of the starters last game was also a smart attempt to get them some 'rest' before today's game. It also gave the team an up close 'tutorial' in a game plan vs Stanford. Not so much on the offensive side , but in using situational defense . My frustration with how we play defense continues. I understand the argument about defensive intensity affecting offensive success.. but, we have all seen other programs do both with no noticeable drop off.
Seems like there are always a couple of times during a game to utilize an overpowering defense ( behind late, or creating separation ), and I just don't see it.
We will see what happens today ... I want three games in a row now - one game at a time !
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Post by 411500 on Jan 19, 2020 9:34:34 GMT -8
Baseba1111 writes; “Good athletes don't think. If they've practiced correctly the repetitions build the muscle memory needed. Thinking leads to split second hesitations. It leads to analysis. Analysis during competition leads to questioning confidence and throwing off natural timing.”
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Some of what baseba1111 writes is sensible and to the point, but most of it isn’t.
Good athletes are thinking all the time. The game is one long exercise in quick thinking and quick decision making. We all know that specific athletic “moves” require hours of repetition, constant practice, and they eventually get to the point where they perform simply from “muscle memory.” So, baseba1111 got that part right. Kinda.
Example one: When a point guard is bringing the ball up court she scans the defense: is it zone? a camouflaged zone? Man d? Are the same players in about the same positions? After this very quick assessment, the point guard sets in motion the play best suited to the answers that pop into her head. This is thinking. Lots of it. The accuracy of her thinking greatly determines her effectiveness as a point guard. Lots of players don’t think and evaluate quickly. They sit. If you don't think you sit.
Example Two. In-bounds play. The ball handler receives a specific play from the coach. She double checks to make sure the defense still is what coach thinks it is. She checks to see if any defenders are cheating or are unaware, she quickly decides whether to follow the play exactly as called or to modify it…She acts after quickly thinking things thru. If she does not think correctly 2 or 3 times in a row, she sits.
Bottom line: basketball is a game filled with thinking. A lot of players ride the bench precisely because they cannot think quickly, cannot adapt to new situations quickly, cannot anticipate what is likely to come next. Cannot decide which muscle memory move to execute at exactly the right moment. And, by the way, when NOT to use muscle memory moves against players who have their own muscle memory moves.
“Good athletes don’t think.” Is really a dopey thing to say - and an even dopier thing to believe.
GO BEAVS !!
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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 19, 2020 10:02:05 GMT -8
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Post by mb on Jan 19, 2020 10:09:13 GMT -8
Baseba1111 writes; “Good athletes don't think. If they've practiced correctly the repetitions build the muscle memory needed. Thinking leads to split second hesitations. It leads to analysis. Analysis during competition leads to questioning confidence and throwing off natural timing.” -------------- Some of what baseba1111 writes is sensible and to the point, but most of it isn’t. Good athletes are thinking all the time. The game is one long exercise in quick thinking and quick decision making. We all know that specific athletic “moves” require hours of repetition, constant practice, and they eventually get to the point where they perform simply from “muscle memory.” So, baseba1111 got that part right. Kinda. Example one: When a point guard is bringing the ball up court she scans the defense: is it zone? a camouflaged zone? Man d? Are the same players in about the same positions? After this very quick assessment, the point guard sets in motion the play best suited to the answers that pop into her head. This is thinking. Lots of it. The accuracy of her thinking greatly determines her effectiveness as a point guard. Lots of players don’t think and evaluate quickly. They sit. If you don't think you sit. Example Two. In-bounds play. The ball handler receives a specific play from the coach. She double checks to make sure the defense still is what coach thinks it is. She checks to see if any defenders are cheating or are unaware, she quickly decides whether to follow the play exactly as called or to modify it…She acts after quickly thinking things thru. If she does not think correctly 2 or 3 times in a row, she sits. Bottom line: basketball is a game filled with thinking. A lot of players ride the bench precisely because they cannot think quickly, cannot adapt to new situations quickly, cannot anticipate what is likely to come next. Cannot decide which muscle memory move to execute at exactly the right moment. And, by the way, when NOT to use muscle memory moves against players who have their own muscle memory moves. “Good athletes don’t think.” Is really a dopey thing to say - and an even dopier thing to believe. GO BEAVS !! I've got to go with 1111 on this one. Of course when you're inbounding a ball you have to think. Shooting the ball is repetition and the more one thinks, the more it can effect the shot. Same goes for a pick and roll. I saw numerous plays Thursday where the post rolled to the basket and the pass was either late or not thrown; reaction here gets it done, nothing to think about. The same for a pitcher or hitter. Slumps are real and they usually occur when the player starts questioning himself or overthinking what's he's doing - pitching or throwing? |
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Post by osu82 on Jan 19, 2020 10:15:26 GMT -8
Yes, with 67% odds of a win. Not greatly in our favor. Realtime gives the Beavs an 83% chance of a win with a bigger margin of victory, 78-62. I don't see a 16 pt. win, nor scoring 78 against Stanford. Stanford is 24-8 playing at Gill. I'd say this is a 50-50 game. If OSU can shoot the ball...say 48% from the field and 35+% from 3...I like their chances. Otherwise, Stanford might get the road split. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 19, 2020 11:28:32 GMT -8
Baseba1111 writes; “Good athletes don't think. If they've practiced correctly the repetitions build the muscle memory needed. Thinking leads to split second hesitations. It leads to analysis. Analysis during competition leads to questioning confidence and throwing off natural timing.” -------------- Some of what baseba1111 writes is sensible and to the point, but most of it isn’t. Good athletes are thinking all the time. The game is one long exercise in quick thinking and quick decision making. We all know that specific athletic “moves” require hours of repetition, constant practice, and they eventually get to the point where they perform simply from “muscle memory.” So, baseba1111 got that part right. Kinda. Example one: When a point guard is bringing the ball up court she scans the defense: is it zone? a camouflaged zone? Man d? Are the same players in about the same positions? After this very quick assessment, the point guard sets in motion the play best suited to the answers that pop into her head. This is thinking. Lots of it. The accuracy of her thinking greatly determines her effectiveness as a point guard. Lots of players don’t think and evaluate quickly. They sit. If you don't think you sit. Example Two. In-bounds play. The ball handler receives a specific play from the coach. She double checks to make sure the defense still is what coach thinks it is. She checks to see if any defenders are cheating or are unaware, she quickly decides whether to follow the play exactly as called or to modify it…She acts after quickly thinking things thru. If she does not think correctly 2 or 3 times in a row, she sits. Bottom line: basketball is a game filled with thinking. A lot of players ride the bench precisely because they cannot think quickly, cannot adapt to new situations quickly, cannot anticipate what is likely to come next. Cannot decide which muscle memory move to execute at exactly the right moment. And, by the way, when NOT to use muscle memory moves against players who have their own muscle memory moves. “Good athletes don’t think.” Is really a dopey thing to say - and an even dopier thing to believe. GO BEAVS !! I've got to go with 1111 on this one. Of course when you're inbounding a ball you have to think. Shooting the ball is repetition and the more one thinks, the more it can effect the shot. Same goes for a pick and roll. I saw numerous plays Thursday where the post rolled to the basket and the pass was either late or not thrown; reaction here gets it done, nothing to think about. The same for a pitcher or hitter. Slumps are real and they usually occur when the player starts questioning himself or overthinking what's he's doing - pitching or throwing? Obviously someone has a different interpretation of "thinking". To believe great athletes take time to literally think what to do is dopey. Athletes read and react... trained responses and reflex to situations. They don't take "time" to think, which in and of itself generally means analyzing what to do next. Far different than instinctive reactions. Which for the great athletes is correct far more than incorrect. But... as stated some have a weird sense of what goes on. |
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