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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 4, 2020 20:25:54 GMT -8
With all due respect to Jamie, Sidney, and any other OSU WBB guard. None of em could do that with such speed and command.
Gotta love the Idaho gal.
(and nice screen by KB)
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Post by bvrbooster on Jan 4, 2020 21:16:54 GMT -8
You are absolutely correct.
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Post by bdudbeaver on Jan 4, 2020 22:26:50 GMT -8
I'm not sure E Thompson has that in his repertoire. I played a lot of basketball growing up, and I didn't have that move going to my left, at least not in a real game.
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Post by beaverstever on Jan 4, 2020 22:44:12 GMT -8
That is why I think she will play a long time at the next level - a lot of her strengths aren't going to be stopped in the WNBA either.
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Post by willtalk on Jan 5, 2020 6:14:18 GMT -8
That is why I think she will play a long time at the next level - a lot of her strengths aren't going to be stopped in the WNBA either.I certainly hope she doesn't read and take to heart many of the posts on this site. Like the one that advised her to become more of a scorer and less of a distributor like she was last season. I really like her game this year. She has played within and helped to create offensive flow that involves the entire team. As a point that should be the primary priority. Most of the time that is what she has done, except for a few instances like during this last game. Her best shot at the next level is to learn and develop operating within team chemistry. The example for her should be Odyssey Sims. Mulkey did her a great disservice by featuring her during her Sr season. She became a high volume scorer averaging 28.5 a game. Her shooting percentage was also very high. When she got to the WNBA her first season she was also a high volume scorer but fans considered her a liability. Her effectiveness as a scorer began to drop each year. She finally learned to be a distributor instead of just a scorer, which is what she should have been working on her Sr season at Baylor. It would have saved her the time it took to develop those skills at the WNBA level. Sims is taller, faster and stronger than Destiny. Destiny has better BB IQ and court vision so she should focus on developing the aspects of her game that showcase those skills. Despite her athleticism, her lack of those skills is eventually what caught up and exposed Sims. Players in college can use their superior physical abilities ( height, speed, strength ) to dominate lower level competition. When they face players that also possess those skills ( often at a greater level than theirs) the difference becomes how much have their developed non physical skills. Destiny's future is as a point guard so she should work at developing those skills. Shooting guards are a dime a dozen. There are short shooting guards in the league, but their physical athleticism is off the charts. Making the statement that her quickness and scoring ability will not be stopped in the WNBA is absurd. She should spend her her time at Oregon St. developing her non scoring skills rather than putting up points against lesser competition not close to what she will face at the next level. Destiny is quick and athletic but she is also short and there are many defenders in the WNBA who's own abilities can negate that athletic advantage very easily. One of the biggest hurdles to player development are their fans. Some of you can negate much of the work that Scott has done in Destiny's development by your nonsensical comments and suggestions. |
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Post by texasbeaver on Jan 5, 2020 7:27:42 GMT -8
That is why I think she will play a long time at the next level - a lot of her strengths aren't going to be stopped in the WNBA either.I certainly hope she doesn't read and take to heart many of the posts on this site. Like the one that advised her to become more of a scorer and less of a distributor like she was last season. I really like her game this year. She has played within and helped to create offensive flow that involves the entire team. As a point that should be the primary priority. Most of the time that is what she has done, except for a few instances like during this last game. Her best shot at the next level is to learn and develop operating within team chemistry. The example for her should be Odyssey Sims. Mulkey did her a great disservice by featuring her during her Sr season. She became a high volume scorer averaging 28.5 a game. Her shooting percentage was also very high. When she got to the WNBA her first season she was also a high volume scorer but fans considered her a liability. Her effectiveness as a scorer began to drop each year. She finally learned to be a distributor instead of just a scorer, which is what she should have been working on her Sr season at Baylor. It would have saved her the time it took to develop those skills at the WNBA level. Sims is taller, faster and stronger than Destiny. Destiny has better BB IQ and court vision so she should focus on developing the aspects of her game that showcase those skills. Despite her athleticism, her lack of those skills is eventually what caught up and exposed Sims. Players in college can use their superior physical abilities ( height, speed, strength ) to dominate lower level competition. When they face players that also possess those skills ( often at a greater level than theirs) the difference becomes how much have their developed non physical skills. Destiny's future is as a point guard so she should work at developing those skills. Shooting guards are a dime a dozen. There are short shooting guards in the league, but their physical athleticism is off the charts. Making the statement that her quickness and scoring ability will not be stopped in the WNBA is absurd. She should spend her her time at Oregon St. developing her non scoring skills rather than putting up points against lesser competition not close to what she will face at the next level. Destiny is quick and athletic but she is also short and there are many defenders in the WNBA who's own abilities can negate that athletic advantage very easily. One of the biggest hurdles to player development are their fans. Some of you can negate much of the work that Scott has done in Destiny's development by your nonsensical comments and suggestions. I think you are overstating the importance of what we say here. Why would a player or coach listen to us. We are the peanut gallery. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 5, 2020 8:15:34 GMT -8
That is why I think she will play a long time at the next level - a lot of her strengths aren't going to be stopped in the WNBA either.I certainly hope she doesn't read and take to heart many of the posts on this site. Like the one that advised her to become more of a scorer and less of a distributor like she was last season. I really like her game this year. She has played within and helped to create offensive flow that involves the entire team. As a point that should be the primary priority. Most of the time that is what she has done, except for a few instances like during this last game. Her best shot at the next level is to learn and develop operating within team chemistry. The example for her should be Odyssey Sims. Mulkey did her a great disservice by featuring her during her Sr season. She became a high volume scorer averaging 28.5 a game. Her shooting percentage was also very high. When she got to the WNBA her first season she was also a high volume scorer but fans considered her a liability. Her effectiveness as a scorer began to drop each year. She finally learned to be a distributor instead of just a scorer, which is what she should have been working on her Sr season at Baylor. It would have saved her the time it took to develop those skills at the WNBA level. Sims is taller, faster and stronger than Destiny. Destiny has better BB IQ and court vision so she should focus on developing the aspects of her game that showcase those skills. Despite her athleticism, her lack of those skills is eventually what caught up and exposed Sims. Players in college can use their superior physical abilities ( height, speed, strength ) to dominate lower level competition. When they face players that also possess those skills ( often at a greater level than theirs) the difference becomes how much have their developed non physical skills. Destiny's future is as a point guard so she should work at developing those skills. Shooting guards are a dime a dozen. There are short shooting guards in the league, but their physical athleticism is off the charts. Making the statement that her quickness and scoring ability will not be stopped in the WNBA is absurd. She should spend her her time at Oregon St. developing her non scoring skills rather than putting up points against lesser competition not close to what she will face at the next level. Destiny is quick and athletic but she is also short and there are many defenders in the WNBA who's own abilities can negate that athletic advantage very easily. One of the biggest hurdles to player development are their fans. Some of you can negate much of the work that Scott has done in Destiny's development by your nonsensical comments and suggestions. I don’t think you need to worry about her making career decisions based on anything posted to this board. |
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Jan 5, 2020 8:40:46 GMT -8
And if she is considering career decisions based off what is said on this board:
"Destiny, no one here thinks you're ready for the WNBA! We all think you need another year in Corvallis!"
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Post by markarmour04 on Jan 5, 2020 8:42:27 GMT -8
Rueck: “Destiny, we needed a pass there not a one-on-one drive to the hoop. Come on, focus.”
Destiny: “But Coach, I read on bennyshouse.com that I should showcase my driving skills more so I decided to go with that.”
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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 5, 2020 10:09:19 GMT -8
Rueck: “Destiny, we needed a pass there not a one-on-one drive to the hoop. Come on, focus.” Destiny: “But Coach, I read on bennyshouse.com that I should showcase my driving skills more so I decided to go with that.” Just an aside, but I’ve noticed that none of the WBB players call Rueck “coach”. They seem to call always him Scott. |
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Jan 5, 2020 10:35:28 GMT -8
Rueck: “Destiny, we needed a pass there not a one-on-one drive to the hoop. Come on, focus.” Destiny: “But Coach, I read on bennyshouse.com that I should showcase my driving skills more so I decided to go with that.” Just an aside, but I’ve noticed that none of the WBB players call Rueck “coach”. They seem to call always him Scott. Rueck says that he is a teacher not a coach. And not just a teacher of basketball but of life. |
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Post by beaverstever on Jan 5, 2020 22:29:16 GMT -8
That is why I think she will play a long time at the next level - a lot of her strengths aren't going to be stopped in the WNBA either.I certainly hope she doesn't read and take to heart many of the posts on this site. Like the one that advised her to become more of a scorer and less of a distributor like she was last season. I really like her game this year. She has played within and helped to create offensive flow that involves the entire team. As a point that should be the primary priority. Most of the time that is what she has done, except for a few instances like during this last game. Her best shot at the next level is to learn and develop operating within team chemistry. The example for her should be Odyssey Sims. Mulkey did her a great disservice by featuring her during her Sr season. She became a high volume scorer averaging 28.5 a game. Her shooting percentage was also very high. When she got to the WNBA her first season she was also a high volume scorer but fans considered her a liability. Her effectiveness as a scorer began to drop each year. She finally learned to be a distributor instead of just a scorer, which is what she should have been working on her Sr season at Baylor. It would have saved her the time it took to develop those skills at the WNBA level. Sims is taller, faster and stronger than Destiny. Destiny has better BB IQ and court vision so she should focus on developing the aspects of her game that showcase those skills. Despite her athleticism, her lack of those skills is eventually what caught up and exposed Sims. Players in college can use their superior physical abilities ( height, speed, strength ) to dominate lower level competition. When they face players that also possess those skills ( often at a greater level than theirs) the difference becomes how much have their developed non physical skills. Destiny's future is as a point guard so she should work at developing those skills. Shooting guards are a dime a dozen. There are short shooting guards in the league, but their physical athleticism is off the charts. Making the statement that her quickness and scoring ability will not be stopped in the WNBA is absurd. She should spend her her time at Oregon St. developing her non scoring skills rather than putting up points against lesser competition not close to what she will face at the next level. Destiny is quick and athletic but she is also short and there are many defenders in the WNBA who's own abilities can negate that athletic advantage very easily. One of the biggest hurdles to player development are their fans. Some of you can negate much of the work that Scott has done in Destiny's development by your nonsensical comments and suggestions. I do indeed believe her step-back jumpers off the drive will not be defensible by WNBA players - but that's an opinion that nobody should take seriously, and I'm confident it's certainly not going to be taken seriously by her. If anything would influence her decision that way, it would be how she felt playing against Team USA. I'm very confident Destiny does not take message board comments seriously. I also don't know why anybody leaves for the WNBA early regardless, unless they really don't like the program they are in... are you really worried Destiny is keen to go play in front of often smaller crowds than at Gill and make similar money to the average new engineering grad? I don't believe anybody that's enjoying being in college jumps early for that. Even Sabrina, who has positioned herself to bring in decent endorsement money, was not eager to forego another year in school. |
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Post by bvrbooster on Jan 5, 2020 22:38:02 GMT -8
I certainly hope she doesn't read and take to heart many of the posts on this site. Like the one that advised her to become more of a scorer and less of a distributor like she was last season. I really like her game this year. She has played within and helped to create offensive flow that involves the entire team. As a point that should be the primary priority. Most of the time that is what she has done, except for a few instances like during this last game. Her best shot at the next level is to learn and develop operating within team chemistry. The example for her should be Odyssey Sims. Mulkey did her a great disservice by featuring her during her Sr season. She became a high volume scorer averaging 28.5 a game. Her shooting percentage was also very high. When she got to the WNBA her first season she was also a high volume scorer but fans considered her a liability. Her effectiveness as a scorer began to drop each year. She finally learned to be a distributor instead of just a scorer, which is what she should have been working on her Sr season at Baylor. It would have saved her the time it took to develop those skills at the WNBA level. Sims is taller, faster and stronger than Destiny. Destiny has better BB IQ and court vision so she should focus on developing the aspects of her game that showcase those skills. Despite her athleticism, her lack of those skills is eventually what caught up and exposed Sims. Players in college can use their superior physical abilities ( height, speed, strength ) to dominate lower level competition. When they face players that also possess those skills ( often at a greater level than theirs) the difference becomes how much have their developed non physical skills. Destiny's future is as a point guard so she should work at developing those skills. Shooting guards are a dime a dozen. There are short shooting guards in the league, but their physical athleticism is off the charts. Making the statement that her quickness and scoring ability will not be stopped in the WNBA is absurd. She should spend her her time at Oregon St. developing her non scoring skills rather than putting up points against lesser competition not close to what she will face at the next level. Destiny is quick and athletic but she is also short and there are many defenders in the WNBA who's own abilities can negate that athletic advantage very easily. One of the biggest hurdles to player development are their fans. Some of you can negate much of the work that Scott has done in Destiny's development by your nonsensical comments and suggestions. I do indeed believe her step-back jumpers off the drive will not be defensible by WNBA players - but that's an opinion that nobody should take seriously, and I'm confident it's certainly not going to be taken seriously by her. If anything would influence her decision that way, it would be how she felt playing against Team USA. I'm very confident Destiny does not take message board comments seriously. I also don't know why anybody leaves for the WNBA early regardless, unless they really don't like the program they are in... are you really worried Destiny is keen to go play in front of often smaller crowds than at Gill and make similar money to the average new engineering grad? I don't believe anybody that's enjoying being in college jumps early for that. Even Sabrina, who has positioned herself to bring in decent endorsement money, was not eager to forego another year in school. Amen to that. If any woman was going to make big bucks coming out of school, it was Ionescu. And I think she will; Uncle Phil has plans for her. But even she stuck around for her senior year. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but the only big name player I can think of in recent years who left early was Jackie Young. I would be shocked if Destiny left. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 5, 2020 22:58:37 GMT -8
If I remember...
2016 Aerial Powers (MSU) was there 5th pick
2015 Jewell Loyd (ND) and Amanda Zahui (Minn) were the 1st two picks
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2020 1:44:08 GMT -8
bvrbooster said: "Amen to that. If any woman was going to make big bucks coming out of school, it was Ionescu. And I think she will; Uncle Phil has plans for her.
But even she stuck around for her senior year. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but the only big name player I can think of in recent years who left early was Jackie Young.
I would be shocked if Destiny left"
I believe if Destiny is named in the first round by the end of the season she would be silly not to go pro. SI hadn't graduated which helped her (along with uncle Phil me thinks). But Destiny will graduate this year and by entering the pro's she will get more out of that than staying in college. I personally would love her to stay but it would make sense for her to cut her teeth in the WNBA sooner rather than later, her career like all pro's is limited by time and the sooner she got in to the 'system' the more it would benefit her.
She is one of the most dynamic PG's i have seen and as pointed out in this thread she has work to do, but they all do, even when Sue Bird and DT played here they said they are always learning and mastering her craft.
So i wouldn't be shocked if she left, I actually think it makes sense for her.
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