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Post by pitbeavs on Dec 27, 2019 18:29:02 GMT -8
What would be a greater feat. Osu winning a national title in baseball in a cold weather location or OSU women's basketball winning a national title under Scott Rueck starting from ground zero when he was hired? Any thoughts..... That's like asking which is better pizza: Woodstock's or American Dream. |
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Post by gnawitall on Dec 27, 2019 18:46:46 GMT -8
People don't realize how far north Corvallis is. Corvallis is 40 miles south of Keizer. The 45th parallel runs down Chemawa Road in Keizer and through Minneapolis, MN. There is a chunk of Canada further south than Corvallis. That shocked me. Toronto is south of the 45th parallel, I would not have guessed that. Chicago is on the same parallel as San Fran. |
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Post by lebaneaver on Dec 27, 2019 19:37:16 GMT -8
What would be a greater feat. Osu winning a national title in baseball in a cold weather location or OSU women's basketball winning a national title under Scott Rueck starting from ground zero when he was hired? Any thoughts..... That's like asking which is better pizza: Woodstock's or American Dream. Cirellos......;-) |
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Post by nwhoopfan on Dec 27, 2019 22:09:34 GMT -8
That shocked me. Toronto is south of the 45th parallel, I would not have guessed that. Chicago is on the same parallel as San Fran. Hmm. Google is telling me Chicago is 42nd and San Fran is 37th. |
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Post by irimi on Dec 27, 2019 22:41:46 GMT -8
Just a fun question. 15 years ago,did anyone think we would have three baseball titles,or nine years ago,did anyone think osu wbb would be in the mix for a national title after LaVonda Wagner ran off virtually the whole team. I just love the success these two programs have had under two class individuals. It gives me hope the sky is the limit under the right coach in any sport at osu. Quality coaching in both programs. Something Beavs can rally behind. |
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Post by irimi on Dec 27, 2019 22:51:19 GMT -8
College baseball seems to be such a streaky sport, especially when it comes to the National title. Once you get to Omaha, all bets are off and any team can ride momentum to win it all.
Basketball, on the other hand, seems to follow the expectations, especially women’s basketball.
Just my observations.
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Post by bvrbooster on Dec 27, 2019 23:09:00 GMT -8
College baseball seems to be such a streaky sport, especially when it comes to the National title. Once you get to Omaha, all bets are off and any team can ride momentum to win it all. Basketball, on the other hand, seems to follow the expectations, especially women’s basketball. Just my observations. If women's basketball followed expectations, Baylor wouldn't have lost to Oregon State in the Elite Eight 4 years ago and wouldn't have lost to us again in the Sweet Sixteen 2 years ago. Tennessee's 58 game home court winning streak in the NCAA Tournament wouldn't have come to an end 2 years ago. The kid from Notre Dame, whose last name I won't even try to spell, but it's probably good for about 16 points at Scrabble, wouldn't have made the shot at the end of the championship game 2 years ago, but would have made the free throws last year. Some crazy stuff happens. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 27, 2019 23:50:46 GMT -8
College baseball seems to be such a streaky sport, especially when it comes to the National title. Once you get to Omaha, all bets are off and any team can ride momentum to win it all. Basketball, on the other hand, seems to follow the expectations, especially women’s basketball. Just my observations. If women's basketball followed expectations, Baylor wouldn't have lost to Oregon State in the Elite Eight 4 years ago and wouldn't have lost to us again in the Sweet Sixteen 2 years ago. Tennessee's 58 game home court winning streak in the NCAA Tournament wouldn't have come to an end 2 years ago. The kid from Notre Dame, whose last name I won't even try to spell, but it's probably good for about 16 points at Scrabble, wouldn't have made the shot at the end of the championship game 2 years ago, but would have made the free throws last year. Some crazy stuff happens. I'm pretty sure he's not talking exact results. In general the top few teams are typically the ones in the elite 8 on. If you look at the WBB results it's very top heavy. Tourney in its basic present form started in 1982: *17 times a #1 in one or both polls won the championship; *Since 1982, at least one #1 seed has made the Final Four every year. *All four #1 seeds have made it to the Final Four 4 times; *The championship game has matched two #1 seeds 14 times; *one 16 seed has beaten a 1, but no 2 or 3 seed has beaten a 14 or 15; *lowest seeds to reach each round: Rd of 32... 16 seed... once Rd of 16... 13 seed... thrice Elite 8... 11 seed... once Final 4... 9 seed... once Finals... 5 seed... once Champ... 3 seed... twice So in 37 tournaments the Final 4 and Finals has had top 4 seeds every year but one. Champion has been a 1 or 2 seed 36 of 37 times. Pretty top heavy and predictable! |
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Post by gnawitall on Dec 28, 2019 1:14:57 GMT -8
Chicago is on the same parallel as San Fran. Hmm. Google is telling me Chicago is 42nd and San Fran is 37th. I've been misinformed ☝️ |
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Post by irimi on Dec 28, 2019 8:11:51 GMT -8
If women's basketball followed expectations, Baylor wouldn't have lost to Oregon State in the Elite Eight 4 years ago and wouldn't have lost to us again in the Sweet Sixteen 2 years ago. Tennessee's 58 game home court winning streak in the NCAA Tournament wouldn't have come to an end 2 years ago. The kid from Notre Dame, whose last name I won't even try to spell, but it's probably good for about 16 points at Scrabble, wouldn't have made the shot at the end of the championship game 2 years ago, but would have made the free throws last year. Some crazy stuff happens. I'm pretty sure he's not talking exact results. In general the top few teams are typically the ones in the elite 8 on. If you look at the WBB results it's very top heavy. Tourney in its basic present form started in 1982: *17 times a #1 in one or both polls won the championship; *Since 1982, at least one #1 seed has made the Final Four every year. *All four #1 seeds have made it to the Final Four 4 times; *The championship game has matched two #1 seeds 14 times; *one 16 seed has beaten a 1, but no 2 or 3 seed has beaten a 14 or 15; *lowest seeds to reach each round: Rd of 32... 16 seed... once Rd of 16... 13 seed... thrice Elite 8... 11 seed... once Final 4... 9 seed... once Finals... 5 seed... once Champ... 3 seed... twice So in 37 tournaments the Final 4 and Finals has had top 4 seeds every year but one. Champion has been a 1 or 2 seed 36 of 37 times. Pretty top heavy and predictable! Thanks baseba1111. You did the math! |
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Post by qbeaver on Dec 28, 2019 8:48:44 GMT -8
I've been a beaver sports fan since the early 1970's,and have been a die hard college fan ever since. I would have never guessed osu could have won three national baseball titles,or been in a position to contend for a WBB national title after osu didn't even have enough scholarship players to field a starting line-up just under 10 years ago.
So much fun to see beaver nation have a couple sports to have so much pride in with all of our success. Who doesn't respect two great men leading those programs...Pat Casey and Scott Rueck? Two guys I can root for...
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Post by beaverstever on Dec 28, 2019 9:06:09 GMT -8
Its interesting and to think about OSU BB winning with both overwhelming talent and with a scrappy teams that got hot. I think er are now deceived to how unlikely those wins were - there are a lot of good programs that have not broken through (at least for a very long time).
I also agree that in WBB, it just doesn’t happen that a moderately talented team gets hot and wins it all like can happen in the men’s game, and it would be a really extraordinary feat for this year’s OSU team to win it all. I’m curious how folks here would see getting a gymnastics title as a more difficult feat, given that it’s so top heavy and upsets so difficult and uncommon.
Rose bowl would be an amazing accomplishment, but doesn’t seem as difficult for some reason, probably because Riley was able to get close to achieving.
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Post by bvrbooster on Dec 28, 2019 9:48:13 GMT -8
If women's basketball followed expectations, Baylor wouldn't have lost to Oregon State in the Elite Eight 4 years ago and wouldn't have lost to us again in the Sweet Sixteen 2 years ago. Tennessee's 58 game home court winning streak in the NCAA Tournament wouldn't have come to an end 2 years ago. The kid from Notre Dame, whose last name I won't even try to spell, but it's probably good for about 16 points at Scrabble, wouldn't have made the shot at the end of the championship game 2 years ago, but would have made the free throws last year. Some crazy stuff happens. I'm pretty sure he's not talking exact results. In general the top few teams are typically the ones in the elite 8 on. If you look at the WBB results it's very top heavy. Tourney in its basic present form started in 1982: *17 times a #1 in one or both polls won the championship; *Since 1982, at least one #1 seed has made the Final Four every year. *All four #1 seeds have made it to the Final Four 4 times; *The championship game has matched two #1 seeds 14 times; *one 16 seed has beaten a 1, but no 2 or 3 seed has beaten a 14 or 15; *lowest seeds to reach each round: Rd of 32... 16 seed... once Rd of 16... 13 seed... thrice Elite 8... 11 seed... once Final 4... 9 seed... once Finals... 5 seed... once Champ... 3 seed... twice So in 37 tournaments the Final 4 and Finals has had top 4 seeds every year but one. Champion has been a 1 or 2 seed 36 of 37 times. Pretty top heavy and predictable! So, where are the comparable numbers for baseball? High ranked seeds advancing to super regionals, Omaha, etc.? |
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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 28, 2019 10:15:35 GMT -8
I'm pretty sure he's not talking exact results. In general the top few teams are typically the ones in the elite 8 on. If you look at the WBB results it's very top heavy. Tourney in its basic present form started in 1982: *17 times a #1 in one or both polls won the championship; *Since 1982, at least one #1 seed has made the Final Four every year. *All four #1 seeds have made it to the Final Four 4 times; *The championship game has matched two #1 seeds 14 times; *one 16 seed has beaten a 1, but no 2 or 3 seed has beaten a 14 or 15; *lowest seeds to reach each round: Rd of 32... 16 seed... once Rd of 16... 13 seed... thrice Elite 8... 11 seed... once Final 4... 9 seed... once Finals... 5 seed... once Champ... 3 seed... twice So in 37 tournaments the Final 4 and Finals has had top 4 seeds every year but one. Champion has been a 1 or 2 seed 36 of 37 times. Pretty top heavy and predictable! So, where are the comparable numbers for baseball? High ranked seeds advancing to super regionals, Omaha, etc.? We won the title in baseball in 07 as the last at large team in. That would never happen in Women’s BB. |
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Post by beaveragain on Dec 28, 2019 11:00:05 GMT -8
"but no 2 or 3 seed has beaten a 14 or 15" Hmmmm
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