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Post by beaverinohio on Dec 16, 2019 8:02:02 GMT -8
The 4-6 Conference USA team dropped their first 5 but are on a 3-game winning streak (and 4 out of last 5) albeit those wins were against Texas A&M CC, Texas St. and Texas Permian Basin. They lost their first 4 by an average of 14 ppg (including an 18 point loss to Oklahoma) and in their 5th game lost by 32 to Utah St. They've been able to score against the cupcakes (85.2 ppg), but only averaged 63.6 in first 5 games.
They're led by 6-foot volume scorer Jhvvan Jackson, who averages 25.2 ppg but on only 40.5% shooting and 30% on 3s. He had 24 pts and 13 rebs against Oklahoma, so he is probably going to get his points. They have a second strong scoring option in 6-3 Keaton Walllace, who averages 15.6 ppg. Thus far this year he's even a worse shooter than Jackson (36.2% and 27.5%) though he did hit on 38.2% of his threes last year. He put up 17 and 9 against OK. After those two, they have 5 players averaging between 6.1 and 4.6 ppg. They're leading rebounder is 6-6 senior Byron Frohen, who averages 6.2 rpg (his lowest average in his 4 years). Again using OK as a measuring stick, Frohen had 6 and 7 against them. Their other two starters are 6-10 and 6.3, and they have a 6-11 freshman Jacob Germany, who comes off the bench and averages 6.1 ppg, 4.4 rpg, and 1.4 bpg in a shade over 16 mpg.
Would expect this to be a pretty easy game, but Roadrunners can score a bit. Slow up Jackson a bit and clamp down on the others and Beavers should have another victory.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2019 8:03:39 GMT -8
The 4-6 Conference USA team dropped their first 5 but are on a 3-game winning streak (and 4 out of last 5) albeit those wins were against Texas A&M CC, Texas St. and Texas Permian Basin. They lost their first 4 by an average of 14 ppg (including an 18 point loss to Oklahoma) and in their 5th game lost by 32 to Utah St. They've been able to score against the cupcakes (85.2 ppg), but only averaged 63.6 in first 5 games. They're led by 6-foot volume scorer Jhvvan Jackson, who averages 25.2 ppg but on only 40.5% shooting and 30% on 3s. He had 24 pts and 13 rebs against Oklahoma, so he is probably going to get his points. They have a second strong scoring option in 6-3 Keaton Walllace, who averages 15.6 ppg. Thus far this year he's even a worse shooter than Jackson (36.2% and 27.5%) though he did hit on 38.2% of his threes last year. He put up 17 and 9 against OK. After those two, they have 5 players averaging between 6.1 and 4.6 ppg. They're leading rebounder is 6-6 senior Byron Frohen, who averages 6.2 rpg (his lowest average in his 4 years). Again using OK as a measuring stick, Frohen had 6 and 7 against them. Their other two starters are 6-10 and 6.3, and they have a 6-11 freshman Jacob Germany, who comes off the bench and averages 6.1 ppg, 4.4 rpg, and 1.4 bpg in a shade over 16 mpg. Would expect this to be a pretty easy game, but Roadrunners can score a bit. Slow up Jackson a bit and clamp down on the others and Beavers should have another victory. Big Tink said no more turnovers. The goal is to have a -0- turnover game in this one. Jake Luton gave a seminar in practice about taking care of the ball. We will see.
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Post by beaverbeliever71 on Dec 16, 2019 8:21:52 GMT -8
Will see how they do.. starting with this game OSU plays 4 of their next on the road(UTSA technically a neutral site game).then at Texas A&M then N Dakota at home then at Utah/Colorado. I think we will get a good picture of where they are at after these next 5..
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Post by beaverinohio on Dec 16, 2019 8:34:18 GMT -8
The 4-6 Conference USA team dropped their first 5 but are on a 3-game winning streak (and 4 out of last 5) albeit those wins were against Texas A&M CC, Texas St. and Texas Permian Basin. They lost their first 4 by an average of 14 ppg (including an 18 point loss to Oklahoma) and in their 5th game lost by 32 to Utah St. They've been able to score against the cupcakes (85.2 ppg), but only averaged 63.6 in first 5 games. They're led by 6-foot volume scorer Jhvvan Jackson, who averages 25.2 ppg but on only 40.5% shooting and 30% on 3s. He had 24 pts and 13 rebs against Oklahoma, so he is probably going to get his points. They have a second strong scoring option in 6-3 Keaton Walllace, who averages 15.6 ppg. Thus far this year he's even a worse shooter than Jackson (36.2% and 27.5%) though he did hit on 38.2% of his threes last year. He put up 17 and 9 against OK. After those two, they have 5 players averaging between 6.1 and 4.6 ppg. They're leading rebounder is 6-6 senior Byron Frohen, who averages 6.2 rpg (his lowest average in his 4 years). Again using OK as a measuring stick, Frohen had 6 and 7 against them. Their other two starters are 6-10 and 6.3, and they have a 6-11 freshman Jacob Germany, who comes off the bench and averages 6.1 ppg, 4.4 rpg, and 1.4 bpg in a shade over 16 mpg. Would expect this to be a pretty easy game, but Roadrunners can score a bit. Slow up Jackson a bit and clamp down on the others and Beavers should have another victory. Big Tink said no more turnovers. The goal is to have a -0- turnover game in this one. Jake Luton gave a seminar in practice about taking care of the ball. We will see. I would hope that is one of the goals for every game -- not that it is achievable. Anyone know if that has ever been done? Maybe years ago, but can't imagine it has been done recently. I believe the Beavers have the least tpg in the conference and are 37th in the nation with 11.7 tpg. Though the 19 they had last game is unacceptable even with subs seeing a fair amount of minutes. I would take under 10 turnovers per game for the rest of the games on schedule and be happy.
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Post by beaverbeliever71 on Dec 16, 2019 8:50:49 GMT -8
Big Tink said no more turnovers. The goal is to have a -0- turnover game in this one. Jake Luton gave a seminar in practice about taking care of the ball. We will see. I would hope that is one of the goals for every game -- not that it is achievable. Anyone know if that has ever been done? Maybe years ago, but can't imagine it has been done recently. I believe the Beavers have the least tpg in the conference and are 37th in the nation with 11.7 tpg. Though the 19 they had last game is unacceptable even with subs seeing a fair amount of minutes. I would take under 10 turnovers per game for the rest of the games on schedule and be happy. 0 TO's not gonna happen.. I believe they were averaging just over 10 a game before last game.. that game was the outlier so far this season
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Dec 16, 2019 14:27:29 GMT -8
Big Tink said no more turnovers. The goal is to have a -0- turnover game in this one. Jake Luton gave a seminar in practice about taking care of the ball. We will see. I would hope that is one of the goals for every game -- not that it is achievable. Anyone know if that has ever been done? Maybe years ago, but can't imagine it has been done recently. I believe the Beavers have the least tpg in the conference and are 37th in the nation with 11.7 tpg. Though the 19 they had last game is unacceptable even with subs seeing a fair amount of minutes. I would take under 10 turnovers per game for the rest of the games on schedule and be happy. Looking back over the previous 10 seasons, the fewest amount of turnovers was four against #9 Utah in 2015 (Wayne Tinkle's first year. No Stevie and no Tres.), a dismal 47-37 home loss.
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 16, 2019 16:39:39 GMT -8
Big Tink said no more turnovers. The goal is to have a -0- turnover game in this one. Jake Luton gave a seminar in practice about taking care of the ball. We will see. I would hope that is one of the goals for every game -- not that it is achievable. Anyone know if that has ever been done? Maybe years ago, but can't imagine it has been done recently. I believe the Beavers have the least tpg in the conference and are 37th in the nation with 11.7 tpg. Though the 19 they had last game is unacceptable even with subs seeing a fair amount of minutes. I would take under 10 turnovers per game for the rest of the games on schedule and be happy. I know stats are very popular to help support viewpoints. However, the issue that is often not coupled with stats like those mentioned is the SOS. OSU is indeed 37th in t/g versus the 343 or 353rd (or whatever site you'd like to use) strongest level of competition. The same goes with shooting % etc. It is just not going to hold up versus superior opponents. The key objections I've had with WT and is still evident this season is getting the supporting cast ready for the rigors of Pac12 play. It's not about just minutes played. Example, Lucas... only 25 shots taken in 9 contests. AH, KK not being more of a focal point in the offense at times. What they get is basically on hustle/off boards situations. Rarely has the offense actually run anything for AH. Rarely has KK been a focal point other than an occasional single entry pass/shoot it, or a lob off a dribble drive by someone else. The other bench players have gotten some decent minutes, but have not been much of a threat. This team can't live off ET and TT. Other teams can "give" them their points and make anyone else try to beat them. And, so far no other player seems capable of being a consistent difference maker... nor been given the opportunity. Every one here and in the league knows what TT and ET can do. In the NC (especially vs this schedule) WT could have sacrificed some minutes and touches to actually run multiple sets to focus/develop a true 3rd, 4th option. As I mentioned before the season, that will be the determining factor in this season.
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Post by 411500 on Dec 17, 2019 14:56:43 GMT -8
Lucas has a good looking shot and he unloads it in a hurry....Setting up shooting opportunities for him should be a walk in the park...I don't know what his defence is like, but he sure looks like someone who can score (and score big) IF you get the ball to him with a bit of daylight....
I'm among the many who are frustrated with Coach Tinkle.....Nuff sed..... GO BEAVS !!
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Post by woodrow7525 on Dec 18, 2019 8:55:21 GMT -8
Is this one being televised anywhere?
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Post by Judge Smails on Dec 18, 2019 8:56:26 GMT -8
Is this one being televised anywhere? Streaming on ESPN3
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Dec 18, 2019 14:52:24 GMT -8
Beavs up 20-10 at the 2nd media timeout. Gianni getting some minutes early, Roman and SMM in coming put of the TO.
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Dec 18, 2019 15:03:29 GMT -8
31-22 with KK at the line for an and 1. He has 14 points 4 rebounds and 2 blocks already. TT in foul trouble so a chance for someone to step in for some minutes. 6:14 to play in the 1st
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 18, 2019 15:04:52 GMT -8
At this time TT can't guard Wallace... by him consistently... and TT with 2 fouls at 8 min mark of 1st half. On the other end, TT seems very frustrated guarded by strong, athletic player.
KK carrying the load right now.
USTA very undisciplined, but high scoring backcourt could be a challenge. Didn't realize they were the highest scoring backcourt combo in the nation last year! Not hitting shots now, but they are not shy and will keep firing them up!
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Dec 18, 2019 15:05:58 GMT -8
Beavs getting to the line but shooting barely over 50%. Could be a 15 point game with better FT shooting.
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Dec 18, 2019 15:09:53 GMT -8
38-24 at the under 4 timeout. Last two possessions the D forced a 30 footer at the end of the shot clock and a shot clock violation. Getting most of our points inside the paint. Only taken 3 shots from beyond the arc. Winning the rebound battle as well.
Also, UTSA is not very good.
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