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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Dec 11, 2019 14:35:59 GMT -8
Another one. Down goes colorado at home to unranked UNI. 79-76. Thatll drop then from the rankings for sure. UNI is now 9-1 with the win and have lost to West Virginia and beaten South Carolina. Look to be a decent team at the very least, no other wins over anyone if note though. Colorado fell from 9th to 18th in RPI. The Buffaloes have the 9th-best SOS in the country. Northern Iowa is 29th in RPI. Northern Iowa has an identical record against a better schedule, so far, than Oregon State.
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Post by babeav on Dec 12, 2019 18:32:04 GMT -8
ISU getting killed by Iowa 73-48 midway thru the 2nd......that’s not gonna help.
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Post by beaverinohio on Dec 13, 2019 18:20:16 GMT -8
Halftime score of the Colorado - Colorado St. game was 27-12. And CSU is at home. Yikes. They've scored 8 points in first 5 minutes of second half, but Colorado is still up by 15. Not really sure what to make of the Buffs. Still hoping the Beavs can steal a win in Boulder.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Dec 13, 2019 20:58:46 GMT -8
Halftime score of the Colorado - Colorado St. game was 27-12. And CSU is at home. Yikes. They've scored 8 points in first 5 minutes of second half, but Colorado is still up by 15. Not really sure what to make of the Buffs. Still hoping the Beavs can steal a win in Boulder. Pomeroy has Colorado at 42nd. 105th-best offense and 13th-best defense. Pomeroy has Oregon State at 61st. 30th-best offense and 110th-best defense. 61st is pretty good for the Beavers, considering the 318th most-difficult schedule.
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Post by beaverinohio on Dec 13, 2019 21:47:31 GMT -8
Halftime score of the Colorado - Colorado St. game was 27-12. And CSU is at home. Yikes. They've scored 8 points in first 5 minutes of second half, but Colorado is still up by 15. Not really sure what to make of the Buffs. Still hoping the Beavs can steal a win in Boulder. Pomeroy has Colorado at 42nd. 105th-best offense and 13th-best defense. Pomeroy has Oregon State at 61st. 30th-best offense and 110th-best defense. 61st is pretty good for the Beavers, considering the 318th most-difficult schedule. I haven’t watched a full Buffs game, but I’ve seen parts of 3 and just haven’t been overly impressed. Just not sure how deserving their preseason ranking was. They seemed to be the pundits’ clever pick this year. Against CSU they got bailed out by Gattling. Guy is averaging 5.5 ppg and shooting 31% and 27% from 3, and he scored 20 on 4-6 from 3 in the 8 point win. Just hoping Colorado doesn’t figure it out before Beavs play them.
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Dec 14, 2019 11:15:52 GMT -8
Pomeroy has Colorado at 42nd. 105th-best offense and 13th-best defense. Pomeroy has Oregon State at 61st. 30th-best offense and 110th-best defense. 61st is pretty good for the Beavers, considering the 318th most-difficult schedule. I haven’t watched a full Buffs game, but I’ve seen parts of 3 and just haven’t been overly impressed. Just not sure how deserving their preseason ranking was. They seemed to be the pundits’ clever pick this year. Against CSU they got bailed out by Gattling. Guy is averaging 5.5 ppg and shooting 31% and 27% from 3, and he scored 20 on 4-6 from 3 in the 8 point win. Just hoping Colorado doesn’t figure it out before Beavs play them. Well we get them in the first week of conference play. Could be a good time to get them if they haven't figured it out by then. Another team I'm glad we get in January is UCLA. They are a talented team and given time to put it together could be a team you don't want to play later. A little disappointed we get uo later both times this year as they always seem to have a tendency to be playing really good basketball come February/March. Although this year it may not matter much timing wise with them anyway.
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 14, 2019 11:24:19 GMT -8
I haven’t watched a full Buffs game, but I’ve seen parts of 3 and just haven’t been overly impressed. Just not sure how deserving their preseason ranking was. They seemed to be the pundits’ clever pick this year. Against CSU they got bailed out by Gattling. Guy is averaging 5.5 ppg and shooting 31% and 27% from 3, and he scored 20 on 4-6 from 3 in the 8 point win. Just hoping Colorado doesn’t figure it out before Beavs play them. Well we get them in the first week of conference play. Could be a good time to get them if they haven't figured it out by then. Another team I'm glad we get in January is UCLA. They are a talented team and given time to put it together could be a team you don't want to play later. A little disappointed we get uo later both times this year as they always seem to have a tendency to be playing really good basketball come February/March. Although this year it may not matter much timing wise with them anyway. Very true. Buffs are extremely athletic, experienced, and talented. Seem to be playing a little bit selfishly/1 on 1 ball right now. But, TB is an excellent coach and they will figure it out. I'm more worried about getting a split at least. Utah can be sneaky good/under valued in my opinion. Also well coached, and have guys that can stick the 3.
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Post by beaverinohio on Dec 14, 2019 11:54:05 GMT -8
Big win for Oregon over Michigan. I wii point out my Illini team beat Michigan earlier in the week though that was at home while UO did it on road. Pritchard took game over last 5 minutes or so in regulation but did miss FT in final minute and lost ball on way up trying to get final shot.
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Post by beavheart on Dec 14, 2019 12:04:25 GMT -8
Big win for Oregon over Michigan. I wii point out my Illini team beat Michigan earlier in the week though that was at home while UO did it on road. Pritchard took game over last 5 minutes or so in regulation but did miss FT in final minute and lost ball on way up trying to get final shot. dux absolutely deserved to win. Refs did everything they could to keep Michigan in that game and dux still gutted it out down the stretch. Pritchard was impressive! Broke down his defender almost at will. hole will be a tough out.
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Post by joeavocado on Dec 16, 2019 14:51:26 GMT -8
Big win for Oregon over Michigan. I wii point out my Illini team beat Michigan earlier in the week though that was at home while UO did it on road. Pritchard took game over last 5 minutes or so in regulation but did miss FT in final minute and lost ball on way up trying to get final shot. dux absolutely deserved to win. Refs did everything they could to keep Michigan in that game and dux still gutted it out down the stretch. Pritchard was impressive! Broke down his defender almost at will. hole will be a tough out. Juwan Howard did a horrible job of coaching UM in that game. The UM point guard (Simpson) was completely overmatched against Pritchard, played matador defense. Pritchard took him to the hoop repeatedly in the second half. UM never attempted to put someone else on Pritchard and the rest of the D didn't give him much help. It's not like UM's point guard was that great offensively, he went 3 for 11 with 4 turnovers, could not believe they stuck with him until it cost them the game. Really unimpressed with Howard's coaching, Altman schooled him on the full court press and match up zone as well.
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Post by beavheart on Dec 16, 2019 15:15:21 GMT -8
dux absolutely deserved to win. Refs did everything they could to keep Michigan in that game and dux still gutted it out down the stretch. Pritchard was impressive! Broke down his defender almost at will. hole will be a tough out. Juwan Howard did a horrible job of coaching UM in that game. The UM point guard (Simpson) was completely overmatched against Pritchard, played matador defense. Pritchard took him to the hoop repeatedly in the second half. UM never attempted to put someone else on Pritchard and the rest of the D didn't give him much help. It's not like UM's point guard was that great offensively, he went 3 for 11 with 4 turnovers, could not believe they stuck with him until it cost them the game. Really unimpressed with Howard's coaching, Altman schooled him on the full court press and match up zone as well. Agree 100%. I know he was part of the Fab 5 or whatever, but is he really qualified to lead a major program? I don't really know much about UM, so I just figured that Simpson was an elite player that was just having an off game and was going to switch it on at any time. Their big's looked like they were wearing concrete shoes as Pritchard drove by them time and again. Where's the help D? dux have some nice role players, but it really all goes through Pritchard. Hope Big Tink can come up with a little better game plan than letting hole's best player run right past us to either dish or score.
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Dec 16, 2019 15:18:16 GMT -8
Juwan Howard did a horrible job of coaching UM in that game. The UM point guard (Simpson) was completely overmatched against Pritchard, played matador defense. Pritchard took him to the hoop repeatedly in the second half. UM never attempted to put someone else on Pritchard and the rest of the D didn't give him much help. It's not like UM's point guard was that great offensively, he went 3 for 11 with 4 turnovers, could not believe they stuck with him until it cost them the game. Really unimpressed with Howard's coaching, Altman schooled him on the full court press and match up zone as well. Agree 100%. I know he was part of the Fab 5 or whatever, but is he really qualified to lead a major program? I don't really know much about UM, so I just figured that Simpson was an elite player that was just having an off game and was going to switch it on at any time. Their big's looked like they were wearing concrete shoes as Pritchard drove by them time and again. Where's the help D? dux have some nice role players, but it really all goes through Pritchard. Hope Big Tink can come up with a little better game plan than letting hole's best player run right past us to either dish or score. Beavs did a great job limiting him in both games last year. I think he only had four points in the game at Gill? Or if he had more I know for sure most if not all of his points came after the game was well in hand.
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Post by beaverinohio on Dec 17, 2019 22:31:23 GMT -8
Juwan Howard did a horrible job of coaching UM in that game. The UM point guard (Simpson) was completely overmatched against Pritchard, played matador defense. Pritchard took him to the hoop repeatedly in the second half. UM never attempted to put someone else on Pritchard and the rest of the D didn't give him much help. It's not like UM's point guard was that great offensively, he went 3 for 11 with 4 turnovers, could not believe they stuck with him until it cost them the game. Really unimpressed with Howard's coaching, Altman schooled him on the full court press and match up zone as well. Agree 100%. I know he was part of the Fab 5 or whatever, but is he really qualified to lead a major program? I don't really know much about UM, so I just figured that Simpson was an elite player that was just having an off game and was going to switch it on at any time. Their big's looked like they were wearing concrete shoes as Pritchard drove by them time and again. Where's the help D? dux have some nice role players, but it really all goes through Pritchard. Hope Big Tink can come up with a little better game plan than letting hole's best player run right past us to either dish or score. I wasn’t watching game close enough to lay blame on the defensive side though seems like help D wasn’t there. And Simpson’s D couldn’t have been outstanding given the result but sometimes you have to give credit to an offensive player and Pritchard did what a top level PG who can score is supposed to do. As to Simpson, he’s not the scorer Pritchard is (averages maybe 12 ppg) but he’s a floor general who is 3rd in nation in assists and had 10+ against Oregon including 3 or 4 down the stretch. Howard is not currently a great or possibly even good in game coach yet, but Michigan wasn’t as highly touted as years past heading into season and he has the team into top 25 after wins over Iowa St., NC (before all their injury problems), and Gonzaga. I don’t think they’re a top 5 team, but they are a top 25 and tourney team. As to Howard’s credentials he played in NBA for 15+ years and was assistant coach in league for 6 or 7. He was also smart enough to hire Phil Martelli, who coached St. Joseph’s for something like 25 years, as his associate HC. But it is recruiting where he is expected to excel, and all signs point to that. In his first class he has a commitment from a top 15 kid and a top 75 kid. Anyway I thought the game was exciting college basketball that came down to the wire. Did Michigan play great down the stretch? No, but they played well. Sometimes I think as fans we’re too quick to lay blame or label a team or player a choke. We seem to forget that in most cases there is a high level opponent trying to also win. Sometimes the victor just deserves a tip of the cap and a well done.
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Post by beaverstever on Dec 18, 2019 22:22:20 GMT -8
HUGE win by Utah vs Kentucky!
They now get #20 SDSU at home before OSU.
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 18, 2019 23:25:14 GMT -8
HUGE win by Utah at Kentucky! They now get #20 SDSU at home before OSU. Utah is better than peeps on this board seem to give them credit for, assuming a split is a sure thing on that roadie. OSU will have to play it's two best games of the season to win those. Although did I see a wrong score... ASU lost by 40?! To St Mary's... yikes!
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