Post by beaverstever on Mar 18, 2016 16:47:32 GMT -8
Reviewing the all-conference list, there's a dearth of guards on that list, particularly ones actually playing in the tournament:
FIRST TEAM
Name School Pos Yr Ht Wt Hometown (Last School)
Rosco Allen STAN F Sr. 6-9 220 Budapest, Hungary (Bishop Gorman HS)
Ryan Anderson ARIZ F Sr. 6-9 235 Long Beach, Calif. (Boston College)
Andrew Andrews WASH G Sr. 6-2 200 Portland, Ore. (Benson Tech HS)
Dillon Brooks ORE F So. 6-7 225 Mississauga, Ont. (Findlay Prep)
Jaylen Brown CAL F Fr. 6-7 225 Atlanta, Ga. (Wheeler HS)
Elgin Cook ORE F Sr. 6-6 205 Milwaukee, Wis. (Northwest Florida State)
Julian Jacobs USC G Jr. 6-4 180 Las Vegas, Nev. (Desert Pines HS)
Gary Payton II** OSU G Sr. 6-3 190 Seattle, Wash. (Salt Lake CC)
Jakob Poeltl UTAH F So. 7-0 248 Vienna, Austria (Arkadia Traiskirchen)
Josh Scott** COLO F Sr. 6-10 245 Monument, Colo. (Lewis-Palmer HS)
So, AA was the best guard in the conference, at least as a scoring threat, and he isn't dancin'. Julian Jacobs was more athletic than good, IMO, and GP II was all-around but not a team-carrying type of player.
SECOND TEAM
Name School Pos Yr Ht Wt Hometown (Last School)
Isaac Hamilton UCLA G Jr. 6-5 185 Los Angeles, Calif. (St. John Bosco HS)
Dejounte Murray WASH G Fr. 6-4 170 Seattle, Wash. (Rainier Beach HS)
Ivan Rabb CAL F Fr. 6-11 220 Oakland, Calif. (Bishop O’Dowd HS)
Kaleb Tarczewski ARIZ C Sr. 7-0 250 Claremont, N.H. (St. Mark’s School)
Gabe York ARIZ G Sr. 6-3 190 West Covina, Calif. (Orange Lutheran HS)
Looking at the 2nd team, again Murray and Hamilton aren't playing, and York is a great shooter, not a leader.
That leaves hole, Utah and Cal - the best of the conference, unrepresented at the guard position on both first and 2nd team!
I have to admit, I think this is the crux of baseba1111's 'eye-test' on the Pac and it's weaknesses. I believe the conference still had a very strong year, the problem it was not at a key position come tournament time. Probably the best true PG in the conference (by style) played for ASU, and he had a very rough year once it came to conference play.
I'm really glad we landed McLoughlin, and hope he's all that.
FIRST TEAM
Name School Pos Yr Ht Wt Hometown (Last School)
Rosco Allen STAN F Sr. 6-9 220 Budapest, Hungary (Bishop Gorman HS)
Ryan Anderson ARIZ F Sr. 6-9 235 Long Beach, Calif. (Boston College)
Andrew Andrews WASH G Sr. 6-2 200 Portland, Ore. (Benson Tech HS)
Dillon Brooks ORE F So. 6-7 225 Mississauga, Ont. (Findlay Prep)
Jaylen Brown CAL F Fr. 6-7 225 Atlanta, Ga. (Wheeler HS)
Elgin Cook ORE F Sr. 6-6 205 Milwaukee, Wis. (Northwest Florida State)
Julian Jacobs USC G Jr. 6-4 180 Las Vegas, Nev. (Desert Pines HS)
Gary Payton II** OSU G Sr. 6-3 190 Seattle, Wash. (Salt Lake CC)
Jakob Poeltl UTAH F So. 7-0 248 Vienna, Austria (Arkadia Traiskirchen)
Josh Scott** COLO F Sr. 6-10 245 Monument, Colo. (Lewis-Palmer HS)
So, AA was the best guard in the conference, at least as a scoring threat, and he isn't dancin'. Julian Jacobs was more athletic than good, IMO, and GP II was all-around but not a team-carrying type of player.
SECOND TEAM
Name School Pos Yr Ht Wt Hometown (Last School)
Isaac Hamilton UCLA G Jr. 6-5 185 Los Angeles, Calif. (St. John Bosco HS)
Dejounte Murray WASH G Fr. 6-4 170 Seattle, Wash. (Rainier Beach HS)
Ivan Rabb CAL F Fr. 6-11 220 Oakland, Calif. (Bishop O’Dowd HS)
Kaleb Tarczewski ARIZ C Sr. 7-0 250 Claremont, N.H. (St. Mark’s School)
Gabe York ARIZ G Sr. 6-3 190 West Covina, Calif. (Orange Lutheran HS)
Looking at the 2nd team, again Murray and Hamilton aren't playing, and York is a great shooter, not a leader.
That leaves hole, Utah and Cal - the best of the conference, unrepresented at the guard position on both first and 2nd team!
I have to admit, I think this is the crux of baseba1111's 'eye-test' on the Pac and it's weaknesses. I believe the conference still had a very strong year, the problem it was not at a key position come tournament time. Probably the best true PG in the conference (by style) played for ASU, and he had a very rough year once it came to conference play.
I'm really glad we landed McLoughlin, and hope he's all that.
