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Post by beaverwbb fan on Jun 4, 2019 10:12:33 GMT -8
PG - Destiny Slocum, Aleah Goodman
SG - Mikayla Pivec, Aleah Goodman, Jasmine Simmons
SF - Kat Tudor, Jasmine Simmons, Mikayla Pivec, Kennedy Brown
PF - Taya Corosdale, Andrea Aquino(?), Kennedy Brown, Taylor Jones
C - Madison Washington, Janessa Thropay, Patricia Morris, Jelena Mitrovic(?), Taylor Jones
PG: Will be one of the strongest, most experienced positions on the team next year with Slocum and Goodman. Both play two very different styles, which can make it hard for other teams to guard. There is no drop-off in depth, and the team doesn't miss a beat.
SG: Will also be one of our strongest positions led by Pivec, and backed up by Goodman and Simmons. Simmons FR to SO leap will prove crucial to strong depth at the 2/3 spots.
SF: Will likely be another solid position, but a little more questionable due to Tudor's injury. If her three-point shooting is where it was prior to injury, the SF slot is in good hands. Pivec can also play the 3, as will Simmons. There has also been chatter of Kennedy Brown playing the 3.
PF: This position looks to have potentially solid, though young depth, but Corosdale really came on as a big rebounder last year, and will only get better. Aquino is still questionable, but Brown and Jones are hopefully ready to roll here.
C: The most wide open position for a starting spot, and a lot of different candidates to do so. Washington and Thropay bring experience, but both are undersized. Morris was a different player late last year, and she will also contend for the spot if she develops as expected. Mitrovic is questionable, but Jones is really skilled and athletic.
Thoughts?
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Post by baseba1111 on Jun 4, 2019 10:36:22 GMT -8
PG - Destiny Slocum, Aleah Goodman SG - Mikayla Pivec, Aleah Goodman, Jasmine Simmons SF - Kat Tudor, Jasmine Simmons, Mikayla Pivec, Kennedy Brown PF - Taya Corosdale, Andrea Aquino(?), Kennedy Brown, Taylor Jones C - Madison Washington, Janessa Thropay, Patricia Morris, Jelena Mitrovic(?), Taylor Jones PG: Will be one of the strongest, most experienced positions on the team next year with Slocum and Goodman. Both play two very different styles, which can make it hard for other teams to guard. There is no drop-off in depth, and the team doesn't miss a beat. SG: Will also be one of our strongest positions led by Pivec, and backed up by Goodman and Simmons. Simmons FR to SO leap will prove crucial to strong depth at the 2/3 spots. SF: Will likely be another solid position, but a little more questionable due to Tudor's injury. If her three-point shooting is where it was prior to injury, the SF slot is in good hands. Pivec can also play the 3, as will Simmons. There has also been chatter of Kennedy Brown playing the 3. PF: This position looks to have potentially solid, though young depth, but Corosdale really came on as a big rebounder last year, and will only get better. Aquino is still questionable, but Brown and Jones are hopefully ready to roll here. C: The most wide open position for a starting spot, and a lot of different candidates to do so. Washington and Thropay bring experience, but both are undersized. Morris was a different player late last year, and she will also contend for the spot if she develops as expected. Mitrovic is questionable, but Jones is really skilled and athletic. Thoughts? 2019/2020? |
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Post by wbosh15 on Jun 4, 2019 11:02:41 GMT -8
PG - Destiny Slocum, Aleah Goodman SG - Mikayla Pivec, Aleah Goodman, Jasmine Simmons SF - Kat Tudor, Jasmine Simmons, Mikayla Pivec, Kennedy Brown PF - Taya Corosdale, Andrea Aquino(?), Kennedy Brown, Taylor Jones C - Madison Washington, Janessa Thropay, Patricia Morris, Jelena Mitrovic(?), Taylor Jones PG: Will be one of the strongest, most experienced positions on the team next year with Slocum and Goodman. Both play two very different styles, which can make it hard for other teams to guard. There is no drop-off in depth, and the team doesn't miss a beat. SG: Will also be one of our strongest positions led by Pivec, and backed up by Goodman and Simmons. Simmons FR to SO leap will prove crucial to strong depth at the 2/3 spots. SF: Will likely be another solid position, but a little more questionable due to Tudor's injury. If her three-point shooting is where it was prior to injury, the SF slot is in good hands. Pivec can also play the 3, as will Simmons. There has also been chatter of Kennedy Brown playing the 3. PF: This position looks to have potentially solid, though young depth, but Corosdale really came on as a big rebounder last year, and will only get better. Aquino is still questionable, but Brown and Jones are hopefully ready to roll here. C: The most wide open position for a starting spot, and a lot of different candidates to do so. Washington and Thropay bring experience, but both are undersized. Morris was a different player late last year, and she will also contend for the spot if she develops as expected. Mitrovic is questionable, but Jones is really skilled and athletic. Thoughts? I personally think we won't see a ton of Brown playing up to the 3. I think the lateral quickness aspect of that will be too much for her in her freshman year. I expect to see a jump from Simmons in a comfort level in the OSU defense. The one I'm really excited to see is Jones. Her lack of exposure because of her injury hurt her ratings wise, but the few clips of her I've see she has a soft touch, and really long arms and is the quickest leaper I think I've seen at OSU, especially for a big. I think she could make a big impact. |
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Jun 4, 2019 11:34:10 GMT -8
I agree about Brown. I think the 3 is more of a long time plan. She would likely need to improve her dribbling as well as the aforementioned footspeed before playing as a perimeter player. I like her a lot as the primary backup for Taya Corosdale, because she has a really good 3-pt shot, but can also play inside.
Jones is a really exciting player. Prospects Nation had her a top-10 recruit prior to her injury and HoopGurlz a top-30. She is different than the post players in the past because of her athleticism.
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Post by willtalk on Jun 4, 2019 16:58:53 GMT -8
I was also going to comment on Jones for the same reasons, but you guys beat me to it. I have not seen her play so how she will fit in offensively at this level is still a mystery. However, based on her history she could definitely get minutes on defense. Scott loves defense. Jones is the main reason I just do not see them ever having to use either Thropay or Washington playing the 5 in a small ball lineup. Once she works out a few quirks Morris can also run with the small lineup.
If you have long arms and are athletic you can certainly still be an elite defender. Williams, the player starting for the Deam is known for her defense and she is only 6'3" but very athletic and blocks a lot of shots in the WNBA. Once she gets acclimated to the OS defense sets she should jump in front of both Thropay and Washington at the 5 positions. They only played the 5 out of necessity.
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Post by rmancarl on Jun 4, 2019 19:43:13 GMT -8
This is a great topic, but almost impossible to figure out who is going to get the most minutes among the newcomers. We have no idea if Andrea and Jelena will be eligible/healthy enough to play. Taylor is a talent, but hasn't played against tough competition in a couple years. Kennedy is talented, but what will be her true position? Can Morris play as well on a regular basis as she did against Arizona?
We know, barring injuries, Destiny, Mik, Kat, and Aleah will play huge minutes at guard and wing positions, and Taya will play a major role as well. It's unlikely Janassa gets much playing time, and Jazz may need to wait another year, but how Taylor, Jelena, Andrea, Trish, and Kennedy fit in is really going to be something to watch as they play in Italy, and throughout the pre season practices as they get ready for the NIT.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2019 14:19:05 GMT -8
This is a great topic, but almost impossible to figure out who is going to get the most minutes among the newcomers. We have no idea if Andrea and Jelena will be eligible/healthy enough to play. Taylor is a talent, but hasn't played against tough competition in a couple years. Kennedy is talented, but what will be her true position? Can Morris play as well on a regular basis as she did against Arizona? We know, barring injuries, Destiny, Mik, Kat, and Aleah will play huge minutes at guard and wing positions, and Taya will play a major role as well. It's unlikely Janassa gets much playing time, and Jazz may need to wait another year, but how Taylor, Jelena, Andrea, Trish, and Kennedy fit in is really going to be something to watch as they play in Italy, and throughout the pre season practices as they get ready for the NIT. 75 days until Italy. That's a Tuesday, August 20th. Counting down.... |
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Jun 26, 2019 18:35:54 GMT -8
Came across this today on twitter:
Shall we say if we see some of this in a game she will be moving herself up the depth chart?
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Post by rmancarl on Jun 26, 2019 19:06:41 GMT -8
Trish is a player. She's going to have a lot of competition now, but I don't think she will be riding the bench her entire career. Adding all these bigs will give her great competition in practice time. I'm telling ya, keep your eyes on her development.
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Post by 411500 on Jun 27, 2019 9:42:17 GMT -8
rmancarl - your comments are usually spot on, and your knowledge of the team and how it works I always find well thought through...
So my comment here is a tweak more than anything......
About Trish you wrote: "but I don't think she will be riding the bench her entire career." No, she won't. Indeed, I think there is a very good chance that she will be starting when December rolls around.
Right now I would say that her competition for a starting spot boils down to Maddie Washington and Kennedy Brown..This assumes that AA & Jelena are not cleared to play by then....
I really don't like making sight unseen observations about a player, but I have this feeling - that I can't shake - that Trish will break thru this year...
If Coach thinks this way after watching her thru the summer and in Italy, then I think he will give her floor time well before she is completely ready. His thinking being that when she is ready she will already have gained the experience that only comes with floor time. This is pretty much iffy thinking, I know.
But it all reduces down to numbers: if Maddie is not the starter in the post, who is? Not AA; not Jelena; in all likelihood not first year player Taylor Jones. That leaves Kennedy Brown and Trish.
So, it's a matter of who you place your bets on...In many ways it could be Kennedy Brown - she's got everything going for her except experience and the body maturity that comes with age...But, in many ways it could also be Morris...She's 6'7, she's mobile, has good hands. A good start. She's not the player Kennedy Brown is, but it's very possible that Brown is being groomed to replace Katie Mac, not Grymek - 4 not 5.
Which make Patricia Morris an even more likely candidate to be the starting post when December finds us...
GO BEAVS !!
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Post by rmancarl on Jun 27, 2019 12:06:33 GMT -8
411500, good thoughts! For me, it is nearly impossible to predict who will round out the final starting position.
We don't even know if AA and Jelena will be healthy enough to play.
Taylor (who I think is a MAJOR talent) hasn't played against tough peer competition in almost 2 years, much less playing against college competition.
Kennedy is a versatile player who most likely won't spend a lot of time (if any) in the post position.
Maddie has proven she can hold her own against some pretty stiff competition, but I think we all know that her size somewhat limits her abilities for a post player.
Trish didn't play enough last season to show us much of her game, or to get a lot of experience, but she has the height, she is athletic, and you could see enough that there is some skill there.
I'm looking forward to hearing reports from Italy, because that should be our first glimpse into what may happen.
What I like about Trish are the few glimpses we did see......the blocked shot on SI as she drove the lane in the Civil war.........the turn around jumper against Cal..........the layups on the inside pass from Mik..........the rebound as she ran back to catch up on the play (I think civil war, also). If she did those on a regular basis, it would be hard to keep her off the court, Consistency is the name of the game though, and she hasn't had the opportunity to show us that yet.
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Jun 27, 2019 12:26:01 GMT -8
@rmancarlc -- you're forgetting one of my favorites, the block on Hebard!
It was very encouraging to watch Trish in the Civil War games and the Cal game -- knowing that she was going up against two of the country's best posts in Hebard and Anigwe.
I hope we see a much more confident Trish this season. In the Pac-12 and just in WCBB in general, confidence plays a big part. Just being that she wasn't as focused on hoops as a lot of incoming Pac-12 players and never faced super stiff competition, I think Trish was a little lost throughout and wide-eyed most of her freshmen season, and I don't think she was super confident in her game and abilities. Fast forward to the end of Pac-12 play, and she had a crucial 7 points in a huge win over Cal, and played great minutes off the bench against UO.
I think we're bound to see a new Trish this year.
Defense is a big part of getting minutes as an OSU post, and OSU player in general. Rueck has said before that one of the biggest stats they look at is points against an individual. If you look at Hebard's numbers, over her 3 years, she has shot 39.4% against OSU and 65.6% against all other competition. I watched a few parts of Kennedy's state semifinal game a few days ago, and her defense changed the game. As soon as they took her out for foul trouble things really opened up for the other team. If she and Taylor can play really solid defense, they can get impact minutes as freshmen, because I think they already come in with an offensive game that few OSU bigs have come in with.
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Post by rmancarl on Jun 27, 2019 13:49:27 GMT -8
You're right. I don't even remember that block, but a block against Hebard, who is one of the better inside shooters in the game, is pretty impressive. So, I looked up Trish's stats against the ducks (two games). 14 minutes, 2 points (1 for 1 shooting), 8 rebounds, 2 blocks. Pretty good stats against one of the best teams in the country, in two of the absolute biggest games of the year.....20,000+ spectators, national TV audience. Obviously, those numbers don't mean she is ready for prime time, but if you double those minutes to 28, and got 16 rebounds and 4 blocks, you would have to be pretty happy!
That was the shot I was talking about against Cal. If Trish could make those on a regular basis, it would be hard to keep her off the court.
One thing about the upcoming season, the 'bigs' should have a lot of fouls to give without a big drop off in talent coming in behind them....barring everyone is healthy (which doesn't seem to be the case just yet).
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Post by 411500 on Jun 27, 2019 14:43:42 GMT -8
beaverwbb fan - Great post! The video clips were perfect! They highlight the comments I was making about Trish being on the cusp of earning a starting spot...
Granted, these are highlights, and great highlight reels do not make a great player.....But, I'll bet it's not only me who thinks Trish might have a breakout season....
I'd love to know what her off-season training regimen is, and who is working with her on her post game...Gotta assume she's working a couple of hours a day with someone...
GO BEAVS !!
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