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Post by 411500 on May 17, 2019 12:02:15 GMT -8
Talking about AA, 2ndGenBeaver wrote: "I see it as a good sign that she is being considered for inclusion on that team, in that one would hope she would be advised against it by our coaching staff unless she was healthy enough to compete for a spot)."
Personally, I think this is a really good point. Most of us believe that Coach would not give his blessing to AA trying out for the Par. Nat. Team if he thought she is not ready for it....health-wise and talent-wise....
I'm hoping' like hell that AA hits Gill fit and furious in October.....Like willtalk, and almost everyone else on this board, I see a lot of promise in her. What's not to like about 6'9 and agile? She's got the body and she's got the disposition. Now we just have to wait to see if she can actually play basketball. In all likelihood she can.
But in fairness, even to the super scouts on this board - and we apparently have a few - nobody can CREDIBLY predict a player's potential until they've seen her play. A lot. Period.
GO BEAVS !!
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Post by 411500 on May 17, 2019 12:02:50 GMT -8
Talking about AA, 2ndGenBeaver wrote: "I see it as a good sign that she is being considered for inclusion on that team, in that one would hope she would be advised against it by our coaching staff unless she was healthy enough to compete for a spot)."
Personally, I think this is a really good point. Most of us believe that Coach would not give his blessing to AA trying out for the Par. Nat. Team if he thought she is not ready for it....health-wise and talent-wise....
I'm hoping' like hell that AA hits Gill fit and furious in October.....Like willtalk, and almost everyone else on this board, I see a lot of promise in her. What's not to like about 6'9 and agile? She's got the body and she's got the disposition. Now we just have to wait to see if she can actually play basketball. In all likelihood she can.
But in fairness, even to the super scouts on this board - and we apparently have a few - nobody can CREDIBLY predict a player's potential until they've seen her play. A lot. Period.
GO BEAVS !!
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Post by beaverwbb fan on May 17, 2019 12:22:56 GMT -8
Another key piece in regards to Aquino is that it takes the right coach to use her. She isn’t a 6’9” that any coach can just stick on the block (like Brittany Griner, Teaira McCowan, Ruth, etc.) to maximize her output. Quite confident that Rueck is one of those coaches that will be able to maximize her talents and production.
I don’t think she was utilized correctly at Ribet.
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on May 17, 2019 21:14:02 GMT -8
And back to the WNBA OT - here's something we've heard before, but now from the LA Sparks game tonight:
Go Beavers!
EDIT - and her box score was 13 pts, 28 min, 5-9, 2 of 5 from 3, 1-2 FTs, 1 rebound, 2 assists, 2 steals.....
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Post by beaverwbb fan on May 31, 2019 18:33:39 GMT -8
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Post by willtalk on May 31, 2019 21:12:25 GMT -8
Syd only scored 3 points and didn't shoot well tonight. But she still played 30 minutes and had a +- of +12 the highest on the team. She played a good game as evidenced by her playing 30 minutes. How much you score is not always a good indicator. Her defense has really improved but she should put more arch on her shots when she catches and shoots. Her low trajectory shots are why many of them bounced out of the basket.
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Post by nwhoopfan on Jun 6, 2019 17:05:49 GMT -8
First time I got to see Gulich play this year with the Dream, against the Aces. She picked up a bunch of fouls early but settled in during the 2nd half. I thought she did a decent job defending against Wilson and Cambage. Ended up with a nice stat line for a sub--7 points 5 rebounds.
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Jul 6, 2019 5:54:09 GMT -8
Syd has been shooting the ball very well the past few games from deep: 3-5, 2-2, and 2-3 from three in her last three games, and she managed double digits in two of those contests. Has been awesome to see her making the best of this opportunity - I know she is extremely thankful.
Gulich knocked down a three ball last night in Seattle as well.
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Post by willtalk on Jul 6, 2019 7:21:49 GMT -8
What I have noticed more than her shooting/scoring is that she is playing very good defensively. Defense is often what separates players in respect to if they can play in the WNBA. A super-elite scorer might see the floor, but otherwise, most coaches will want to see the good defense. Fisher seems to like Syd and that is why she is still on the team despite seeing little court time last season. All some players need is an opportunity to show what they can do and Fisher is giving Syd that. She appears to have passed up Lexi Jones as the backup point. Perhaps just for the recent matchups, they faced? Jones was first-round pick in the same class as Wiese.
Beaverfever. In respect to her low trajectory shots. While Syd certainly was an elite 3pt shooter in college, you always have to improve your game. With her, I believe she might have traded off trajectory for quick release of the ball, which certainly was one reason she was effective. However, for the Pro's she usually plays at the wing and her scoring opportunities are generally catch and shoot. Having a higher trajectory is more advantageous than a quick release when not shooting off the dribble. Defenders are generally closing in and a lower trajectory is easier to block. Whereas off the dribble that low trajectory at the expense of more arch is a better trade-off because the defender is right on her and not closing. It is simple geometry. Players in the WNBA are much quicker and faster and close better, so release and arch are all important at the wing positions.
That is also the reason that Oregon St. 3 point shooting declined after Kat was injured. With her out the only other player who combined Quick release with a high arch was Goodman and she usually handled the ball. Kat's quick release from the wing required her to be face guarded without the ball throughout the game, which opened up more spacing for other players to take advantage of on drives and outside shots. It is different when a player has the ball because they are already being guarded by a defender. It makes a far bigger difference for a player who is a threat off the ball on the wings because the defender can not play help defense because they have to play closer to their man even in a zone. I really don't believe most Oregon St fans realized how much Kat affected the offense even when she didn't shoot the ball because of how much defensive attention she drew. The reason the 3pt shooting percentage was so high in 17-18 was because of the defensive attention that Kat and Gulish drew which created a lot of open looks. When the Oregon Posts start becoming offensive threats again requiring help defense, that should also help get more open looks.
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Post by 411500 on Jul 6, 2019 8:07:16 GMT -8
hey willtalk - I enjoyed your commentary on quick release, shot trajectory, and how Kat Tudor influenced floor spacing....
I'll add some minor stuff while I'm here.....
Kat has the quickest release I have EVER seen in WBB....Quick plus accurate is a deadly combination. She stretches the floor and makes the middle more accessible. Gawd, I hope we get to keep her for an extra year...
A talented post player creates more space for guard penetration AND 3-point shooting...That is why Trish's development is critical to this year's guard point production...
Anyway, what I say is nothing new, but your comments were informative to me.
GO BEAVS !!
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Jul 6, 2019 8:17:40 GMT -8
Kat has a very unique release. This is an old photo has been posted before, but very unique release. Another photo of her shooting, this time over Sabally -- shows a unique follow through. And this one also shows the high release she has on her shot. Kat was a very valuable piece and IMO would have taken Katie's starting spot if she didn't get injured. As was mentioned, she is best as a catch-and-shoot player, and due to her high release point and high arching shot, she hardly needs any room to get it off. Needing as little room as she does to get it off + being able to release as quick as she does means that the defender, as willtalk mentioned, has to stay extremely close. This video from Kat's 34 point game in the win over Oregon says it all. Kat had no trouble getting her shot off over the 6'4" Sabally. Rueck always ran tons of sets to get Kat a three, and without Kat, there wasn't really anyone to run the sets for as effectively. |
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Post by 411500 on Jul 6, 2019 9:30:46 GMT -8
beaver wbb--thanks for posting the nifty still photos, and the great action video of Kat's unbelievable performance in the Oregon trounce.....I'd love to see more of that in 2019-20....
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Post by wbosh15 on Jul 6, 2019 9:46:04 GMT -8
Kat has a very unique release. This is an old photo has been posted before, but very unique release. Another photo of her shooting, this time over Sabally -- shows a unique follow through. And this one also shows the high release she has on her shot. Kat was a very valuable piece and IMO would have taken Katie's starting spot if she didn't get injured. As was mentioned, she is best as a catch-and-shoot player, and due to her high release point and high arching shot, she hardly needs any room to get it off. Needing as little room as she does to get it off + being able to release as quick as she does means that the defender, as willtalk mentioned, has to stay extremely close. This video from Kat's 34 point game in the win over Oregon says it all. Kat had no trouble getting her shot off over the 6'4" Sabally. Rueck always ran tons of sets to get Kat a three, and without Kat, there wasn't really anyone to run the sets for as effectively. Really great discussion. I’m not sure that she would have taken Katie’s starting spot, I just don’t see Rueck ever making that move, if anything Katie still starts but Kat comes in 3 minutes into the game instead of 5 minutes. However, the one thing I think she would have taken is 6 women of the year, I think Kat wins that award if she’s healthy all year, as well as Aleah played. I think Kat would have had 3 or more 20 plus point explosions. Get that knee better Kat! Go Beavs! |
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Post by willtalk on Jul 6, 2019 20:31:39 GMT -8
Beaverfever. In respect to her low trajectory shots. While Syd certainly was an elite 3pt shooter in college, you always have to improve your game. With her, I believe she might have traded off trajectory for quick release of the ball, which certainly was one reason she was effective. However, for the Pro's she usually plays at the wing and her scoring opportunities are generally catch and shoot. Having a higher trajectory is more advantageous than a quick release when not shooting off the dribble. Defenders are generally closing in and a lower trajectory is easier to block. Whereas off the dribble that low trajectory at the expense of more arch is a better trade-off because the defender is right on her and not closing. It is simple geometry. Players in the WNBA are much quicker and faster and close better, so release and arch are all important at the wing positions. Q: Was she having her shots blocked in the WNBA? Is that why her 3pt. percentage was down?
A: No.
A higher trajectory doesn't (by itself) translate into a better shooting percentage.
No from what I saw, and I do watch all their games, it kept her from more shot attempts. Which will also reflect in less time on the court. Except when she was working off the dribble. She seems to be doing more of that this season. From that position it works to her advantage because she has this quick, but odd release. Many perimeter who shoot flat shots will tend to put more arch on their shots the longer they are in the leagues. It is just better form. Shooting low trajectory shots is usually a form players pick up early in their basketball playing careers. Players usually do that because as youngsters they do not have the strength to put more arch on the ball. Your range is extended-strength wise- shooting with less arch. Watch players in grade or middle school sometime. Get a baseball, or any sort of ball, and throw it for distance. Throw one as far as you can. Throw another using as high an arch as you can. Which one goes farther. Syd's sparks teammate ( Chelsea Gray ) will shoot with a high arch from the perimeter, but her jump shot from within the key is flatter. It all depends where and under what conditions you are shooting under. Flatter shots will generally allow for a quicker release. I am not suggesting that Syd shoot every shot with more of an arch. Just the catch and release ones from the perimeter. It is all about constantly getting better. My point about where you are shooting from and and under what conditions is born out by comparing Syd's production last season to this years. Last season she got little playing time even before or after she was injured. She did not score at all last season. This season she is putting up good numbers. Why the difference? Last season she played exclusively at the wing while this season it was either at the one or two. Re-read my post. I explained why catch and shoot works better off the ball utilizing a higher arch. Syd has such a funky quick release that of the dribble that low trajectory works for her, because the defender never can gage when she will shoot. As a catch and release player on the wing she went scoreless last season. It would be in her best interest to expand her game by developing a shot with more of an arc. |
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