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Post by Judge Smails on Apr 22, 2019 13:59:39 GMT -8
Canzano has another Tracy article in today's Oregonian regarding Jason Dandridge. I won't link, but you can find it if you want to. The thing that I found interesting regarding the original case is that Canzano is quoting former Deputy DA Pam Hediger about it. I wonder if he knows that Ms. Hediger was just convicted and is spending 4 years in Federal Prison for stealing millions from her clients and her employer.
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Post by nabeav on Apr 22, 2019 15:51:23 GMT -8
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Post by atownbeaver on Apr 22, 2019 16:42:16 GMT -8
I have a hard time getting on the band-wagon of extra-judicial punishment.
Please do not get me wrong, I am very sympathetic about victims rights. I understand sexual assault is serious, I know we have issues in society. I have two daughters. Two daughters rapidly approaching college age. I do worry...
But at the same time, I fear for society when we continue to attack individuals not found guilty in a court of law in this country and seek to deny them things. It is not a value I really want to promote. I get there is some evidence that does not paint them well, But I also get that is exclusively the prosecution's side.
I worry about what would happen if someday I was wrongfully arrested. and even if I am cleared of charges, in this day and age of immediate information sharing, what do I face in the future? would I have arm chair judges and juries deciding "he did it" despite reality? Do people google me and only find a mug shot and do no follow up? do I lose future earnings, or do not get job interviews? Are people still coming after me 20 years after the fact?
It is scary to think about if it is you... So in the vein of attempting to have integrity, knowing full well bad people would be getting off the hook, I feel we HAVE to respect the idea if a person has not been found guilty in a court of law, we cannot go around acting like they really are.
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Post by Werebeaver on Apr 23, 2019 7:10:31 GMT -8
I have a hard time getting on the band-wagon of extra-judicial punishment. Please do not get me wrong, I am very sympathetic about victims rights. I understand sexual assault is serious, I know we have issues in society. I have two daughters. Two daughters rapidly approaching college age. I do worry... But at the same time, I fear for society when we continue to attack individuals not found guilty in a court of law in this country and seek to deny them things. It is not a value I really want to promote. I get there is some evidence that does not paint them well, But I also get that is exclusively the prosecution's side. I worry about what would happen if someday I was wrongfully arrested. and even if I am cleared of charges, in this day and age of immediate information sharing, what do I face in the future? would I have arm chair judges and juries deciding "he did it" despite reality? Do people google me and only find a mug shot and do no follow up? do I lose future earnings, or do not get job interviews? Are people still coming after me 20 years after the fact? It is scary to think about if it is you... So in the vein of attempting to have integrity, knowing full well bad people would be getting off the hook, I feel we HAVE to respect the idea if a person has not been found guilty in a court of law, we cannot go around acting like they really are. And furthermore, if Ms Tracy’s primary goal is education to prevent sexual assaults from happening in the future, these never ending vendettas against her supposed assailants are a wasteful distraction and counterproductive toward that goal. It makes me question her true intent. |
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Post by joeavocado on Apr 23, 2019 7:38:58 GMT -8
Nothing against her personally or her cause. But her 15 minutes are up. Pretty common news cycle, Story 'A' gets out about a travesty of justice or person done wrong/victimized, cause begins, PR ensues, media gives it attention, national tour begins to drive awareness, perhaps a book deal. Person proceeds to turn cause into a career, limelight eventually fades, PR runs out of steam, person proceeds to attempt to get publicity as career now depends on it and returns to local/original supporter to get story back in the news, tries to reignite momentum, usually fails, person goes away, only to return every time a similar incident occurs and makes the news, tries to recapture 15 minutes of fame multiple times until finally returning to society in a real job.
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Post by mallardhunter on Apr 23, 2019 8:44:03 GMT -8
While always keeping in mind that Canzano is a columnist, not a journalist, I get the feeling that he is using Ms. Tracy in order to garner some journalism back-slapping awards. She is using him too for the benefit of keeping her cause in the spotlight.
I feel the same way about his series on the Pac12 leadership. It was a good series in the first 5 installments, the last couple have felt vindictive as he keeps pushing for his desired outcome.
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Post by atownbeaver on Apr 23, 2019 16:26:48 GMT -8
While always keeping in mind that Canzano is a columnist, not a journalist, I get the feeling that he is using Ms. Tracy in order to garner some journalism back-slapping awards. She is using him too for the benefit of keeping her cause in the spotlight. I feel the same way about his series on the Pac12 leadership. It was a good series in the first 5 installments, the last couple have felt vindictive as he keeps pushing for his desired outcome. To be sure, Steven Duin has adopted the same approach, with his recent coverage of the Ms. Naito trial, if anybody read that. Different players, different set of circumstances (actual trial and a not guilty verdict) but same general approach. Despite in this case a not-guilty verdict, the Oregonian is fine labeling the people as guilty and treating them as such. |
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Post by NativeBeav on Apr 24, 2019 12:15:32 GMT -8
While always keeping in mind that Canzano is a columnist, not a journalist, I get the feeling that he is using Ms. Tracy in order to garner some journalism back-slapping awards. She is using him too for the benefit of keeping her cause in the spotlight. I feel the same way about his series on the Pac12 leadership. It was a good series in the first 5 installments, the last couple have felt vindictive as he keeps pushing for his desired outcome. To be sure, Steven Duin has adopted the same approach, with his recent coverage of the Ms. Naito trial, if anybody read that. Different players, different set of circumstances (actual trial and a not guilty verdict) but same general approach. Despite in this case a not-guilty verdict, the Oregonian is fine labeling the people as guilty and treating them as such. Which is why I *smile* when I receive the regular invitations via email to sign up for the dead fish wrapper. The bad taste in my mouth because of the LH debacle will not go away any time soon - even though Mr. Moron is now gone. Even if they paid me to take it - no way! And that doesn't even begin to address the rest of the paper!  |
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