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UCLA
Apr 9, 2019 6:38:46 GMT -8
Post by ochobeavo on Apr 9, 2019 6:38:46 GMT -8
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Apr 9, 2019 8:20:47 GMT -8
... and some people think getting a great coach HERE would be so easy.
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UCLA
Apr 9, 2019 8:39:40 GMT -8
Post by Judge Smails on Apr 9, 2019 8:39:40 GMT -8
... and some people think getting a great coach HERE would be so easy. Mussleman also left Nevada for Arkansas. UCLA is definitely not the elite job anymore that the boosters, AD, etc.. think that it is.
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UCLA
Apr 9, 2019 8:46:38 GMT -8
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Post by beaverstever on Apr 9, 2019 8:46:38 GMT -8
... and some people think getting a great coach HERE would be so easy. Yep - this is the scary thing. All Pac-12 schools have struggled with coaches in recent years. I'm a bit jealous of WSU getting USF's Kyle Smith, but it's definitely a crapshoot that could easily just be another 5 years of floundering, but at least there's new hope there today. Poor USF continues to be a stepping-stone program. I thought Alford was a slam-dunk hire at UCLA. Our whole conference is mired in mediocrity somehow.
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UCLA
Apr 9, 2019 8:52:46 GMT -8
Post by ochobeavo on Apr 9, 2019 8:52:46 GMT -8
... and some people think getting a great coach HERE would be so easy. Mussleman also left Nevada for Arkansas. UCLA is definitely not the elite job anymore that the boosters, AD, etc.. think that it is. Read somewhere that UCLA still flies commercial quite a bit. Found that odd. Surprised no one has stepped up there, but I guess the Big Baller types were busy selling awesome shoes.
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UCLA
Apr 9, 2019 8:54:28 GMT -8
Post by beaverbeliever71 on Apr 9, 2019 8:54:28 GMT -8
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UCLA
Apr 9, 2019 9:00:40 GMT -8
Post by spudbeaver on Apr 9, 2019 9:00:40 GMT -8
Wow! Kevin Cronin? I never even knew he was also a baller! Right on! Roll With the Changes Bruins!
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UCLA
Apr 9, 2019 9:04:44 GMT -8
Post by Judge Smails on Apr 9, 2019 9:04:44 GMT -8
Wow! Kevin Cronin? I never even knew he was also a baller! Right on! Roll With the Changes Bruins! Kevin? I think it's Mick.
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UCLA
Apr 9, 2019 9:15:18 GMT -8
Post by ochobeavo on Apr 9, 2019 9:15:18 GMT -8
Even though he was their 11th choice (made that up), that may actually be a pretty solid hire. They still won't be happy in Westwood since it's not Bill Self or Roy Williams or Calipari or a hologram of Wooden...
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UCLA
Apr 9, 2019 9:27:56 GMT -8
Post by beaverstever on Apr 9, 2019 9:27:56 GMT -8
Cronin seems somewhat less of a slam-dunk hire than Alford. He has been very consistent though on getting teams into the tourney, but that's pretty much it. That won't fly in Westwood, and he'll have to do it with a lot more early departures than he had at UC. Doubled his salary to get him there.
I'd only be moderately excited if he was coming to OSU; can understand a 'meh' reaction or worse in LA.
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Post by ochobeavo on Apr 9, 2019 10:09:33 GMT -8
Cronin seems somewhat less of a slam-dunk hire than Alford. He has been very consistent though on getting teams into the tourney, but that's pretty much it. That won't fly in Westwood, and he'll have to do it with a lot more early departures than he had at UC. Doubled his salary to get him there. I'd only be moderately excited if he was coming to OSU; can understand a 'meh' reaction or worse in LA. I don't know.. if we had hired someone with Cronin's resume instead of WT, I think I would have been pretty dang excited. 9 straight trips to the dance at a decent mid-major conference. I think WT was coming off of 17 win season at Montana and it was WT or Stoudamire(?). am I forgetting someone else? Anyhow, completely agree that the reaction in LA will be lukewarm at best. Whatever his "style" is, they won't care for it.
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UCLA
Apr 9, 2019 10:16:16 GMT -8
Post by Judge Smails on Apr 9, 2019 10:16:16 GMT -8
Cronin seems somewhat less of a slam-dunk hire than Alford. He has been very consistent though on getting teams into the tourney, but that's pretty much it. That won't fly in Westwood, and he'll have to do it with a lot more early departures than he had at UC. Doubled his salary to get him there. I'd only be moderately excited if he was coming to OSU; can understand a 'meh' reaction or worse in LA. I don't know.. if we had hired someone with Cronin's resume instead of WT, I think I would have been pretty dang excited. 9 straight trips to the dance at a decent mid-major conference. I think WT was coming off of 17 win season at Montana and it was WT or Stoudamire(?). am I forgetting someone else? Anyhow, completely agree that the reaction in LA will be lukewarm at best. Whatever his "style" is, they won't care for it. Stoudamire is 39-58 at Pacific. Would not have been any better than WT. Cronin is a good defensive minded coach, but that is going to be a tough fit in Westwood. Howland went to 3 straight final fours with that kind of style and he didn't make it there.
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UCLA
Apr 9, 2019 10:39:32 GMT -8
Post by beaverstever on Apr 9, 2019 10:39:32 GMT -8
Cronin seems somewhat less of a slam-dunk hire than Alford. He has been very consistent though on getting teams into the tourney, but that's pretty much it. That won't fly in Westwood, and he'll have to do it with a lot more early departures than he had at UC. Doubled his salary to get him there. I'd only be moderately excited if he was coming to OSU; can understand a 'meh' reaction or worse in LA. I don't know.. if we had hired someone with Cronin's resume instead of WT, I think I would have been pretty dang excited. 9 straight trips to the dance at a decent mid-major conference. I think WT was coming off of 17 win season at Montana and it was WT or Stoudamire(?). am I forgetting someone else? Anyhow, completely agree that the reaction in LA will be lukewarm at best. Whatever his "style" is, they won't care for it. Cincinatti was also not a 'mid-major' when Cronin started, they were in the Big East, which was a VERY good basketball conference at that time. And I don't know what a 'mid-major' really means when it comes to the AAC; they are certainly a much better conference than the Pac-12 as of today. But that really just emphasizes your point - he had success in really good leagues... but to me that makes it even more surprising that it hasn't resulted in more success in the post-season. I agree I'd be more excited than him over WT for sure, I just wouldn't be that excited, as I don't see him as someone that would be a high probability of being successful at OSU (or UCLA for that matter). But that's probably just my bias that I'd be more excited about potential of an up-and-comer vs. someone that has a pretty defined ceiling that is likely lower at OSU. Edit: Looks like the AAC isn't really considered a 'mid-major' either, but not a "power-5" either:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-major
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UCLA
Apr 9, 2019 11:15:31 GMT -8
Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 11:15:31 GMT -8
Not a bruin fan obviously but I hope UCLA gets their crap together and can become a perennial top 10 team because it's good for the beavs to have the name brand team of the conference be powerful again (the power vaccum at UCLA and Arizona has allowed the lemon yellow cheating yucks too easy a time of it).
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UCLA
Apr 9, 2019 11:16:39 GMT -8
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Post by gnawitall on Apr 9, 2019 11:16:39 GMT -8
Not a bruin fan obviously but I hope UCLA gets their crap together and can become a perennial top 10 team because it's good for the beavs to have the name brand team of the conference be powerful again (the power vaccum at UCLA and Arizona has allowed the lemon yellow cheating yucks too easy a time of it). haaaaa
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