beav74
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Post by beav74 on Apr 7, 2019 21:25:39 GMT -8
1. Oregon State 2. Oregon 3. Stanford 4. Arizona 5. USC
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2ndGenBeaver
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Apr 7, 2019 22:20:30 GMT -8
I think the Top half of the Pac-12 will be these six teams. I think the exact order depends on the late signing period and transfers (in and out). For us, our spot depends on how quickly our new arrivals assimilate and how quick/well Kat comes back. 1. Stanford 2. Oregon 3. Oregon State 4. UCLA 5. Arizona 6. ASU
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Post by baseba1111 on Apr 7, 2019 22:41:16 GMT -8
I'd agree on the above top 3 in some order. Furd being my pick for the best team. The Bruins lost a bit, but develop more depth.
Since OSU lost its only real inside defensive presence and didn't develop any depth there, its still "ground zero" for an inside game on both ends. MW (love her style/effort) is not the answer at the 4 or 5 other than a quality sub. JT isn't a championship caliber Pac12 player period. This year's bigs didn't get developed at all in terms of real contributions at a Pac12 level. Next year's recruits have zero D1 experience and will not only have to grow up quick (Italy helps build team, but the competition isn't Pac12 good) they have to contribute far more than this year's class did.
As long as OSU is shooting 700+ 3's a season with no inside offense the Pac12 championship isn't going to happen. The inconsistent nights will continue, late season weary legs effecting the shot unless they can get some go to inside scoring.
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Post by green85 on Apr 8, 2019 8:08:49 GMT -8
I'd agree on the above top 3 in some order. Furd being my pick for the best team. The Bruins lost a bit, but develop more depth. Since OSU lost its only real inside defensive presence and didn't develop any depth there, its still "ground zero" for an inside game on both ends. MW (love her style/effort) is not the answer at the 4 or 5 other than a quality sub. JT isn't a championship caliber Pac12 player period. This year's bigs didn't get developed at all in terms of real contributions at a Pac12 level. Next year's recruits have zero D1 experience and will not only have to grow up quick (Italy helps build team, but the competition isn't Pac12 good) they have to contribute far more than this year's class did. As long as OSU is shooting 700+ 3's a season with no inside offense the Pac12 championship isn't going to happen. The inconsistent nights will continue, late season weary legs effecting the shot unless they can get some go to inside scoring. I think you discount Rueck's coaching a bit. And I think your "D1 experience" argument is only one factor in the success of a team over the entire season and post-season. Look at the freshmen that contributed on the top teams in this season's NCAA tourney. I think listing OSU in the top 3 for next season is right on. And yes, the Beavers can win the Pac12 regular season in 2019-20.
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Post by 411500 on Apr 8, 2019 8:11:51 GMT -8
I think baseba1111 makes some good points. He is more hardline than most on this board in his insistence that a power team in the Pac must possess a powerful post presence..He also reminds us that even a fleet of premiere 3 point shooters won't win big. Basically, I agree with both of these points..
April is just too soon for meaningful assessment of the upcoming season, but as I look at it, it seems to me that the Beavs have a lot (I mean a LOT) riding on the development of Trish and the emergence of AA.....
I'm very encouraged by what I saw of Trish this year...She's agile, her hands are soft, and she gets the ball from chin to elevation quickly....All of these features place her on a good trajectory. I'm hoping she is the next "Gawd, OSU produces great post players" player...If she is, we're on our way...
Back to earth: Stanford's loaded, well coached and tradition rich. Two years in a row they have recruited who I consider the best player in the country.... Oregon's loaded, rather well coached, and booster rich...They have the best player in the Pac and two of the best support players. (Next year a lot of Beaver fans will be wishing that Queen I had gone pro).
OK, that's it.....We still have half a year before official practice begins and during that 6 months a lot of good can happen..... GO BEAVS !!
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Post by newduke2 on Apr 8, 2019 8:15:24 GMT -8
Beavers will be competitive for 3rd place next season if at least 2 of the 5 young bigs (Morris, Aquino, Brown, Jones, Mitrovic) are serviceable at their position, and competitive for 1st place if at least 2 of 5 young bigs surprise and are real difference makers by the time Pac-12 season starts.
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Post by ricke71 on Apr 8, 2019 8:54:13 GMT -8
As far as inside presence/defense I’m hopeful that Brown at 6’6” and (based solely on highlights v HS players) outstanding athleticism/ shot blocking, that she can help fill that role.
Admittedly “hope” is the operative word, since she hasn’t faced D1 college opponents. She is however the Beavs first ever entering freshman McDonalds AA.
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Apr 8, 2019 11:26:17 GMT -8
I think the top three will be OSU, Stanford, and schmucks in some order. Stanford has the best recruiting class coming in by far. We have done impressive bigs coming in. I'm not sure about tsdtr.
Players transferring in and out could definitely change things up.
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Post by mike74 on Apr 8, 2019 15:17:10 GMT -8
At this point (way to early of course), the top 5 teams in the conference would appear to be some mix of Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, Arizona and Arizona State - all five return most of their key players, have strong incoming recruits/prospects and all 5 teams are well coached. Add in UCLA ,which in my judgement, loses a little too much from last year, particularly their PG and you're looking at a really loaded conference in 2019-2020. The teams that make it to the tournament will be battle tested by time March arrives.
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Apr 8, 2019 15:19:59 GMT -8
At this point (way to early of course), the top 5 teams in the conference would appear to be some mix of Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, Arizona and Arizona State - all five return most of their key players, have strong incoming recruits/prospects and all 5 teams are well coached. Add in UCLA ,which in my judgement, loses a little too much from last year, particularly their PG and you're looking at a really loaded conference in 2019-2020. The teams that make it to the tournament will be battle tested by time March arrives. Ucla was granted an additional year with their point guard Dean. It was announced just before the tournament started of I remember correctly. It gave them a huge lift at just the right time.
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Apr 8, 2019 16:57:16 GMT -8
1. Oregon State 2. Oregon 3. Stanford 4. Arizona 5. USC May want to switch USC from 5. Do everything PG Minyon Moore announced she will be grad transferring. Yikes.
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Apr 8, 2019 17:19:48 GMT -8
That's a big hit to take. She is a good point guard.
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Apr 8, 2019 19:44:17 GMT -8
1. Oregon State 2. Oregon 3. Stanford 4. Arizona 5. USC May want to switch USC from 5. Do everything PG Minyon Moore announced she will be grad transferring. Yikes. Really may want to rethink
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Post by Werebeaver on Apr 8, 2019 19:59:21 GMT -8
May want to switch USC from 5. Do everything PG Minyon Moore announced she will be grad transferring. Yikes. Really may want to rethink Good lord. WTF is going on in Trakh’s program?
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Apr 8, 2019 20:29:00 GMT -8
May want to switch USC from 5. Do everything PG Minyon Moore announced she will be grad transferring. Yikes. Really may want to rethink WOW, that's nike u numbers there. At the game at Gill I did notice a lot of yapping at both officials and each other. They didn't look like they were having fun.
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