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Post by fridaynightlights on Jul 24, 2019 23:09:05 GMT -8
It just goes to show you how pathetic the program has been the last 25 plus years that a coach can be 35 and 55 in conference and a Beaver fan would say he has done a "great" job. Talk about setting the bar low.... If the AD gives him another extension they should be fired. WT will be gone soon after the coaches kids are gone. Coach Tinkle's players have raised the bar academically, and he has been the most successful coach since Ralph. He coached a team that broke the tourney drought, and he has only had one losing season. I have watched Beaver Basketball for 30 years and I personally believe that it would be a huge mistake to let Coach Tinkle go. That's just one man's opinion. Hi Wayne, how is the offseason going?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2019 10:56:03 GMT -8
It just goes to show you how pathetic the program has been the last 25 plus years that a coach can be 35 and 55 in conference and a Beaver fan would say he has done a "great" job. Talk about setting the bar low.... If the AD gives him another extension they should be fired. WT will be gone soon after the coaches kids are gone. Coach Tinkle's players have raised the bar academically, and he has been the most successful coach since Ralph. He coached a team that broke the tourney drought, and he has only had one losing season. I have watched Beaver Basketball for 30 years and I personally believe that it would be a huge mistake to let Coach Tinkle go. That's just one man's opinion. Calm down. I dont see anyone suggesting Wayne be let go. K Sampson will be brought in as head illegal recruiter.
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Post by ee1990 on Jul 25, 2019 14:03:02 GMT -8
How 'bout a job in a real conference, at OSU? He's done very well everywhere he's been and doing it all over again at U Houston. Any chance?! Go Beavs! I think it's an interesting idea that has no chance of happening. We aren't going to pony up, and Houston is pouring tons of money into the big 2 sports right now.
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Post by ee1990 on Jul 25, 2019 14:11:48 GMT -8
It just goes to show you how pathetic the program has been the last 25 plus years that a coach can be 35 and 55 in conference and a Beaver fan would say he has done a "great" job. Talk about setting the bar low.... If the AD gives him another extension they should be fired. WT will be gone soon after the coaches kids are gone. Coach Tinkle's players have raised the bar academically, and he has been the most successful coach since Ralph. He coached a team that broke the tourney drought, and he has only had one losing season. I have watched Beaver Basketball for 30 years and I personally believe that it would be a huge mistake to let Coach Tinkle go. That's just one man's opinion. Is this where we start arguing the semantics of going .500 in conference one year counting as a "non losing record"? 8-10 9-9 1-17 7-11 10-8 But hey, we beat prairie view a&m most of the time. I'm glad people support the team, especially when our guys are down. Butts in seats and eyes on screens can help us pull out of this trench, but a 39% conference winning % shouldn't be good enough.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jul 25, 2019 14:23:01 GMT -8
Pretty easy to understand. A losing record is when you lose more games than you win. Period. No semantics whatsoever.
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Post by beavsinorange on Jul 25, 2019 15:56:08 GMT -8
I meant overall record.
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Post by beavsinorange on Jul 25, 2019 16:18:35 GMT -8
Pretty easy to understand. A losing record is when you lose more games than you win. Period. No semantics whatsoever. Year 1 17-14 Year 2 19-13 NCAA tournament Year 3 5-27 ugh Year 4 16-16 improvement Year 5 18-13 4th place in Pac 12. I only count 1 losing season.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jul 25, 2019 16:56:12 GMT -8
1 losing season in 5... versus... 19 losing seasons in the previous 23 years. Heck yeah he's improved the program.
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Post by fridaynightlights on Jul 25, 2019 17:11:00 GMT -8
Having an overall winning record when you can schedule a dozen cupcakes from non power 5 schools who you generally have no business losing to, even if your not very good is not the standard for a good season. Even at the worst power 5 programs, if a coach has not made the NCAA tournament in the past 4 or 5 years they are gone. So if WT makes the Tourney this year he has bought himself some more time, but if he does not get them in this year, when will he??? He will be losing by far his best player in TT and the year after losing his second best player ET. You can't keep finishing near the bottom of the recruiting rankings and expect to win. I would be very surprised if WT is still the coach of OSU in 5 years time.
If you think WT is doing a "great" job more power to you.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jul 25, 2019 17:37:18 GMT -8
Having an overall winning record when you can schedule a dozen cupcakes from non power 5 schools who you generally have no business losing to, even if your not very good is not the standard for a good season. Which, of course, we have never done, under any coach. Our OOC schedules under WT pretty much mirror those in the late RM era, and the tenure of any subsequent coach. Once the FWC started diminishing in importance, the quality of our OOCs declined considerably.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2019 18:21:14 GMT -8
Having an overall winning record when you can schedule a dozen cupcakes from non power 5 schools who you generally have no business losing to, even if your not very good is not the standard for a good season. Which, of course, we have never done, under any coach. Our OOC schedules under WT pretty much mirror those in the late RM era, and the tenure of any subsequent coach. Once the FWC started diminishing in importance, the quality of our OOCs declined considerably. The late Richie McKay? He was so young.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jul 25, 2019 21:28:39 GMT -8
Having an overall winning record when you can schedule a dozen cupcakes from non power 5 schools who you generally have no business losing to, even if your not very good is not the standard for a good season. Even at the worst power 5 programs, if a coach has not made the NCAA tournament in the past 4 or 5 years they are gone. So if WT makes the Tourney this year he has bought himself some more time, but if he does not get them in this year, when will he??? He will be losing by far his best player in TT and the year after losing his second best player ET. You can't keep finishing near the bottom of the recruiting rankings and expect to win. I would be very surprised if WT is still the coach of OSU in 5 years time. If you think WT is doing a "great" job more power to you. Personally, I'm going into this season expecting a tournament appearance. "but if he does not get them in this year" is bad energy. I wouldn't focus on that unless it has actually happened, and that's 8-9 months off. Put the winning energy out there. Negative energy is a bad motivator. There's a lot of people who believe in thr law of attraction. I personally don't necessarily believe it's a provable theory, but being negative for a decade or two at a time sure has proven itself not to help at OSU's two biggest sports.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 3:08:21 GMT -8
Having an overall winning record when you can schedule a dozen cupcakes from non power 5 schools who you generally have no business losing to, even if your not very good is not the standard for a good season. Even at the worst power 5 programs, if a coach has not made the NCAA tournament in the past 4 or 5 years they are gone. So if WT makes the Tourney this year he has bought himself some more time, but if he does not get them in this year, when will he??? He will be losing by far his best player in TT and the year after losing his second best player ET. You can't keep finishing near the bottom of the recruiting rankings and expect to win. I would be very surprised if WT is still the coach of OSU in 5 years time. If you think WT is doing a "great" job more power to you. Personally, I'm going into this season expecting a tournament appearance. "but if he does not get them in this year" is bad energy. I wouldn't focus on that unless it has actually happened, and that's 8-9 months off. Put the winning energy out there. Negative energy is a bad motivator. There's a lot of people who believe in thr law of attraction. I personally don't necessarily believe it's a provable theory, but being negative for a decade or two at a time sure has proven itself not to help at OSU's two biggest sports. Agreed about winning energy but you should know by now each Benny's House post has to start with lowering your pants and taking a dump on a team, a coach, a facility (I've done that one).
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