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Post by sagebrush on Mar 29, 2019 3:09:53 GMT -8
Tennessee has to be one of the worst coaching positions in the country. They are not over Pat Summitt yet just like it took a few coaches for ucla to get over John Wooden.
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Post by Werebeaver on Mar 29, 2019 6:22:23 GMT -8
Tennessee has to be one of the worst coaching positions in the country. They are not over Pat Summitt yet just like it took a few coaches for ucla to get over John Wooden. UCLA still isn't over Wooden.. OSU still isn’t over Miller.🏀 |
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Post by bvrbooster on Mar 29, 2019 10:24:52 GMT -8
Two memories of that time in UCLA history, as I was living in Southern California then.
You will remember that UCLA won 7 national championships in a row, then lost in 1974 (Walton's and Wilkes' senior years). They won again in 1975 in San Diego, immediately after Wooden had announced his retirement. Immediately after the game, still on the floor, one of UCLA's biggest boosters shook Wooden's hand, and said, "This almost makes up for last year."
So UCLA hires Gene Bartow, who, in his first year, led the Bruins to a record of (something like) 28-4 and a spot in the Final Four, where they lost. (Think that was the year Indiana went undefeated.) Bartow was absolutely destroyed in the media and on talk radio and letters to the editor. It was brutal. Similar, probably even worse, treatment the following year led him to resign for health reasons.
Tough, tough thing trying to replace a legend.
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Post by mbabeav on Mar 29, 2019 10:24:55 GMT -8
Rueck is not going anywhere. Lisa Fortier (Gonzaga) would be interesting. She might need a few more years seasoning to be acceptable to UT though I was impressed with her & her team *sample size 1 game I think her time at, and the quality of play of her team gives plenty of evidence for her being "seasoned". I wonder who is coaching at George Fox right now...Gonzaga might want to be tracking that. |
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Post by mbabeav on Mar 29, 2019 10:26:48 GMT -8
Two memories of that time in UCLA history, as I was living in Southern California then. You will remember that UCLA won 7 national championships in a row, then lost in 1974 (Walton's and Wilkes' senior years). They won again in 1975 in San Diego, immediately after Wooden had announced his retirement. Immediately after the game, still on the floor, one of UCLA's biggest boosters shook Wooden's hand, and said, "This almost makes up for last year." So UCLA hires Gene Bartow, who, in his first year, led the Bruins to a record of (something like) 28-4 and a spot in the Final Four, where they lost. (Think that was the year Indiana went undefeated.) Bartow was absolutely destroyed in the media and on talk radio and letters to the editor. It was brutal. Similar, probably even worse, treatment the following year led him to resign for health reasons. Tough, tough thing trying to replace a legend. Even tougher trying to replace Wooden's financial relationship with a certain auto dealer. |
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Post by beaveragain on Mar 29, 2019 10:36:51 GMT -8
An auto dealer was bribing Wooden to win games?
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Post by wbosh15 on Mar 29, 2019 10:49:30 GMT -8
Lisa Fortier (Gonzaga) would be interesting. She might need a few more years seasoning to be acceptable to UT though I was impressed with her & her team *sample size 1 game I think her time at, and the quality of play of her team gives plenty of evidence for her being "seasoned". I wonder who is coaching at George Fox right now...Gonzaga might want to be tracking that. The coach at George Fox who replaced Rueck was just hired at the University of Portland. |
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Post by markwbeaver on Mar 29, 2019 11:38:48 GMT -8
Yes, Michael Meek won one or more state championships at Southridge before replacing Rueck at George Fox. He went 230-35 at George Fox and went to 2 D-3 championship games.
This makes three GF coaches in a row to go the D-1. Sherri Murrell, who preceded Rueck, went to Pacific, then Washington State, where she was not successful.
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Mar 29, 2019 12:48:12 GMT -8
Two memories of that time in UCLA history, as I was living in Southern California then. You will remember that UCLA won 7 national championships in a row, then lost in 1974 (Walton's and Wilkes' senior years). They won again in 1975 in San Diego, immediately after Wooden had announced his retirement. Immediately after the game, still on the floor, one of UCLA's biggest boosters shook Wooden's hand, and said, "This almost makes up for last year." So UCLA hires Gene Bartow, who, in his first year, led the Bruins to a record of (something like) 28-4 and a spot in the Final Four, where they lost. (Think that was the year Indiana went undefeated.) Bartow was absolutely destroyed in the media and on talk radio and letters to the editor. It was brutal. Similar, probably even worse, treatment the following year led him to resign for health reasons. Tough, tough thing trying to replace a legend. Even tougher trying to replace Wooden's financial relationship with a certain auto dealer. I think that mbabeav may have been referring to the involvement of UCLA booster Sam Gilbert in helping to build and maintain the UCLA men's basketball dynasty. www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/bob-knight-slams-legendary-coach-john-wooden-says-ucla-cheated-in-recruiting/ |
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Post by beaveragain on Mar 29, 2019 13:48:07 GMT -8
Ah yes, that time when one of the most notorious liars in the history of sports (Night) insisted that Wooden personally told his deepest darkest secrets. I found that extremely believable. NOT!
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Post by mbabeav on Mar 29, 2019 13:48:07 GMT -8
Wooden's favorite Booster, Sam "The Bagman" Gilbert "UCLA was placed on a two-year probation by the NCAA in late 1981 for its NCAA violations, which ranged from financial arrangements for players to giving a recruit a T-shirt. The Bruins, coached by Larry Brown at the time, were prohibited from postseason play in 1982 and forced to void their second-place finish in the 1980 national championship game. While none of those actions, according to the NCAA, took place under Wooden's tenure, Gilbert was ordered by the NCAA to disassociate himself with the UCLA program's recruiting process after allegations surfaced that he co-signed a promissory note so a player could buy a car." |
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Post by mbabeav on Mar 29, 2019 13:50:39 GMT -8
Ah yes, that time when one of the most notorious liars in the history of sports (Night) insisted that Wooden personally told his deepest darkest secrets. I found that extremely believable. NOT! LOL, one of the "least" kept secrets in college basketball - I knew about this story, as did most of us, decades before this article was printed, as did the NCAA. |
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Post by beaveragain on Mar 29, 2019 14:03:35 GMT -8
That's interesting because Wooden and UCLA was never found guilty of anything during his coaching career. You should have told someone!! Oh, I know, the Auto mechanic bribed the NCAA to look the other way.
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Post by Judge Smails on Mar 29, 2019 14:04:26 GMT -8
Two memories of that time in UCLA history, as I was living in Southern California then. You will remember that UCLA won 7 national championships in a row, then lost in 1974 (Walton's and Wilkes' senior years). They won again in 1975 in San Diego, immediately after Wooden had announced his retirement. Immediately after the game, still on the floor, one of UCLA's biggest boosters shook Wooden's hand, and said, "This almost makes up for last year." So UCLA hires Gene Bartow, who, in his first year, led the Bruins to a record of (something like) 28-4 and a spot in the Final Four, where they lost. (Think that was the year Indiana went undefeated.) Bartow was absolutely destroyed in the media and on talk radio and letters to the editor. It was brutal. Similar, probably even worse, treatment the following year led him to resign for health reasons. Tough, tough thing trying to replace a legend. Even tougher trying to replace Wooden's financial relationship with a certain auto dealer. Gilbert owned a construction company. He was not an auto dealer |
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Post by mbabeav on Mar 29, 2019 14:08:18 GMT -8
Even tougher trying to replace Wooden's financial relationship with a certain auto dealer. Gilbert owned a construction company. He was not an auto dealer sorry, that error I will fess up to, but he was core to getting a lot of talent into UCLA for many years. |
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