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Post by rmancarl on Mar 14, 2019 9:19:06 GMT -8
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Mar 14, 2019 10:07:27 GMT -8
Great article, thanks for posting it.
I think that Jazz will be ready to make an impact as well. We are going to have a great group of guards/wings again next year.
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Post by 411500 on Mar 14, 2019 11:15:44 GMT -8
I'm really curious to see how Jazz & OSU work out.
I don't know what her major is, how she gets along with coaches and teammates, whether she is homesick for family and country...
So, it's hard to have a real sense of the total situation in her regard....
I will say that, as far as basketball is concerned, Jazz is facing a very real prospect of not getting much floor time even if she stays at OSU 4 years...
She has a dynamite collection of talent ahead of her (Slocum, Goodman, Tudor, Pivec) and taking floor minutes from any of them is going to be tough - very tough.
For Jazz, however, the real problem seeing the floor will come from the younger kids Coach brings in... By this I mean the elite unsigned prospects..
We all know the collection of talent the Beavs are working hard to sign in 2020....All of them, while only prospects, look like they will earn playing time.
If they are as good as advertised, and they do earn floor time, it's likely Jazz will be the one watching and they will be the ones playing...
All this is down the line.....
Mark all this up to speculation - but to my way of thinking it may pan out in real life pretty much as written here....
GO BEAVS !!
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Post by Werebeaver on Mar 14, 2019 11:54:41 GMT -8
I'm really curious to see how Jazz & OSU work out. I don't know what her major is, how she gets along with coaches and teammates, whether she is homesick for family and country... So, it's hard to have a real sense of the total situation in her regard.... I will say that, as far as basketball is concerned, Jazz is facing a very real prospect of not getting much floor time even if she stays at OSU 4 years... She has a dynamite collection of talent ahead of her (Slocum, Goodman, Tudor, Pivec) and taking floor minutes from any of them is going to be tough - very tough. For Jazz, however, the real problem seeing the floor will come from the younger kids Coach brings in... By the I mean the elite unsigned prospects.. We all know the collection of talent the Beavs are working hard to sign in 2020....All of them, while only prospects, look like they will earn playing time. If they are as good as advertised, and they do earn floor time, it is likely that Jazz will be the one watching and they will be the ones playing... All this is down the line..... Mark all this up to speculation - but to my way of thinking it may pan out in real life pretty much as written here.... GO BEAVS !! So you’re saying she might not be “Mik on steroids“? |
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Post by rmancarl on Mar 14, 2019 12:35:25 GMT -8
It's kind of a shame for Jazz. She has skills. I think more skills than what we've seen so far, though she has definitely struggled on defense. I think her real skills on offense are best suited for an uptempo running team. I could see her and Destiny excelling together, but there is too much talent in front of her, and hopefully the Beavs do sign some elite 2020 guards, and as said by 411500, they will demand time as well.
Her attitude while on the bench seems great, but players want to play! Speaking of cheerleaders from the bench, Andrea looks like a real cheerleader for this team. I really hope things go well for her, because her attitude seems to be amazing from everything I can gather just watching bench reactions, etc.
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Post by bvrbooster on Mar 14, 2019 13:35:01 GMT -8
Simmons never had a breakout game this year, on either end of the floor. She always looked, to me, less than confident in what she was doing , or where she was position wise, at any given moment, or in what she intended to do in the next moment. That translates to getting beat or fouling on defense, and a low field goal percentage on offense. I hope another year allows the game to slow down for her.
I don't want to sound like I'm second guessing Scott, as I'm sure I would have coached his 24 - 7 team to a record of 14 -17. But when you're playing a pre-conference cupcake ( Arkansas Pine Bluff, St. Mary's, LaSalle, Santa Clara, Eastern Washington, CSU Bakersfield), I would advocate actually starting your inexperienced players (this year, Simmons and Morris), and giving them meaningful and substantial minutes.
We beat those teams by an average of 47 points. If the experienced players, the regular starters, got 7 to 10 minutes less in those games, and we only won by an average of 35, the impact on team development would have been pretty much zilch. But if Simmons had been in a better position to take up some of the load when Tudor went down, perhaps we'd have a somewhat better record and stronger team right now.
That's just my thoughts, however, and I'm not trying to be critical. I wouldn't trade our coaching staff for any in Division 1.
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 14, 2019 13:49:45 GMT -8
Simmons never had a breakout game this year, on either end of the floor. She always looked, to me, less than confident in what she was doing , or where she was position wise, at any given moment, or in what she intended to do in the next moment. That translates to getting beat or fouling on defense, and a low field goal percentage on offense. I hope another year allows the game to slow down for her. I don't want to sound like I'm second guessing Scott, as I'm sure I would have coached his 24 - 7 team to a record of 14 -17. But when you're playing a pre-conference cupcake ( Arkansas Pine Bluff, St. Mary's, LaSalle, Santa Clara, Eastern Washington, CSU Bakersfield), I would advocate actually starting your inexperienced players (this year, Simmons and Morris), and giving them meaningful and substantial minutes. We beat those teams by an average of 47 points. If the experienced players, the regular starters, got 7 to 10 minutes less in those games, and we only won by an average of 35, the impact on team development would have been pretty much zilch. But if Simmons had been in a better position to take up some of the load when Tudor went down, perhaps we'd have a somewhat better record and stronger team right now. That's just my thoughts, however, and I'm not trying to be critical. I wouldn't trade our coaching staff for any in Division 1. As has and will continue to happen, there will be players that fall by the wayside as current players develop and new recruits come in. There will be young ladies who leave the next year or two. |
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Mar 14, 2019 14:32:15 GMT -8
Simmons is arguably the most unique player Coach Rueck has recruited on this current roster. Her strong suit is her athleticism. She is also a stat stuffer. If she sticks around, her time will come. I think it has been a tough adjustment period for her. Happens when you transition to the Pac-12.
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Post by blastingsand on Mar 14, 2019 15:50:33 GMT -8
Still say Aleah is incredibly underrated. She's a phenom, honestly should be starting.
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Mar 14, 2019 16:39:12 GMT -8
Aleah has had a rather rough stretch in our past two games. She is shooting a combined 1-17 from the floor and 1-13 from three. We are going to need her to get hot if we want a chance at the Elite 8 and on.
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Post by 411500 on Mar 14, 2019 16:41:15 GMT -8
"I don't want to sound like I'm second guessing Scott, as I'm sure I would have coached his 24 - 7 team to a record of 14 -17. But when you're playing a pre-conference cupcake ( Arkansas Pine Bluff, St. Mary's, LaSalle, Santa Clara, Eastern Washington, CSU Bakersfield), I would advocate actually starting your inexperienced players (this year, Simmons and Morris), and giving them meaningful and substantial minutes."
Pretty much have to disagree with you on this one bvrbooster....
Coaches place a high premium on practice performance, and if a player is not delivering in practice, missing her marks, late on arrival, not covering on D, not setting screens as instructed, etc. etc. - this player is not going to be rewarded with floor time....
Game time experience is an important part of player development, but it's not the bottom line by any stretch of the imagination; for many coaches it is minor compared to practice performance...
A crude comparison is to consider a golfer who can't get his swing right; in practice he doesn't respond well to instruction or coaching.
Someone says "Just let him play in a few tournaments and see how things work out."
A few coaches might say OK....Others will say, I don't think so. Get your swing right THEN take the links.....
If players don't perform well in practice it is rare that they will perform well under the hectic pace and tight whistles of a real-game.
Equally important, when players don't perform consistently in practice they simply have not as yet EARNED their game time...
That's how I look at it.....
GO BEAVS !!.
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Post by beaveragain on Mar 14, 2019 18:41:58 GMT -8
I've talked to Jas a couple of times and once was confused and she just kindly corrected me. In my book she's a nice person and as such I hope things work out for her.
OSU just does not play standard defense and I can't recall anyone who has done a great job defensively for the Beav's as a freshman (And no, I did not see Gabby as a freshman). So Jas not doing great this year means nothing on how she will do next year, just see how far Aleah has come along.
Offensively it's obvious to me that she is putting the work in. In shoot arounds she is now nailing the 3 and at the beginning of the year it was not always pretty. Her finish on her few drives to the basket are more self assured, and successful.
Her passing and rebounding just need more in-game practice to hone.
I don't know about putting Mik to shame, but I think we will all be grateful that she chose OSU before all's said and done.
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Post by blastingsand on Mar 15, 2019 1:08:39 GMT -8
Aleah has had a rather rough stretch in our past two games. She is shooting a combined 1-17 from the floor and 1-13 from three. We are going to need her to get hot if we want a chance at the Elite 8 and on. Even Roger Federer has his off days. Aleah will bounce right back and become the MOP of this year's tournament! I would say I think the competition bored her lately. She plays her best when it's great teams we are up against. She single handedly got us the win over the ducks. If she wanted to turn pro should would have been picked in front of Ionescu that day. Completely dominated outplayed everyone. Put her against any UConn teams that day, she would have beaten them. Yes, she was playing that good. |
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Post by TheGlove on Mar 15, 2019 7:15:34 GMT -8
Aleah has had a rather rough stretch in our past two games. She is shooting a combined 1-17 from the floor and 1-13 from three. We are going to need her to get hot if we want a chance at the Elite 8 and on. Even Roger Federer has his off days. Aleah will bounce right back and become the MOP of this year's tournament! I would say I think the competition bored her lately. She plays her best when it's great teams we are up against. She single handedly got us the win over the ducks. If she wanted to turn pro should would have been picked in front of Ionescu that day. Completely dominated outplayed everyone. Put her against any UConn teams that day, she would have beaten them. Yes, she was playing that good. This was getting stale 5 posts ago. |
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Mar 15, 2019 7:51:15 GMT -8
Even Roger Federer has his off days. Aleah will bounce right back and become the MOP of this year's tournament! I would say I think the competition bored her lately. She plays her best when it's great teams we are up against. She single handedly got us the win over the ducks. If she wanted to turn pro should would have been picked in front of Ionescu that day. Completely dominated outplayed everyone. Put her against any UConn teams that day, she would have beaten them. Yes, she was playing that good. This was getting stale 5 posts ago. Well said by The Glove above. Succinct, yet clear. Thank you to The Glove for attempting to slow the continuing string of related posts from blastingsand about Goodman, blastingsand's favorite player. I have tolerated blastingsand's hyberbolic posts about Goodman for some time now, chalking it up to unbridled enthusiasm following a memorable week in which Goodman was clutch in big wins against Oregon and UCLA. In looking back at blastingsand's string of exaggerated posts about Goodman, I recognize that any sense of objectivity or credibility related to Goodman has long since left the building in what he/she writes. Goodman is very deserving of her PAC-12 6th Person of the Year honor. She adds much to what this season's squad is capable of achieving in the NCAA tournament as an important player in the team's rotation. Any comparisons to Roger Federer or speculating that she will be the Most Outstanding Player in the upcoming NCAA tournament are unfair to her. Goodman is not able to declare (even if she wanted to or was ready to do so) for the WNBA Draft after this season due to the year in which she has born. She is not ready to play professional basketball at this point of her basketball development. She needs to improve her strength and improve her ability to create separation (without the assistance of multiple screens) from her defender. She needs to develop an effective mid-range game when her three-point shot is not falling. She needs to become a better defender. Like all female underclassmen, she has many aspects of her game that can use further development. If Goodman was eligible for the WNBA Draft, she certainly would not be picked ahead of Ionescu and would not be picked among the rather-limited set of 36 players that are chosen in the three rounds of that very selective draft process. The competition didn't "bore" Goodman last Friday when the Beavs lost a stunning heartbreaker to the UW. She simply shot poorly (0/10 from the field and 0/9 from distance), not unlike what many outstanding shooters will occasionally do. She didn't adjust her shot-taking during that game to attack the paint and get better shots for herself or, more importantly in her role as a point guard, for her teammates when she was struggling from the field. Goodman settled for the outside shot even after it was apparent to all observers that her outside shot was clearly off in the foreign shooting environment of the MGM Grand Garden Arena. She is a smart player just as Rueck has repeatedly informed reporters. Goodman will learn from her PAC-12 Tournament performance in Vegas and hopefully will work for better-percentage shots for herself and her teammates when she is having an off day from the field. I would love to see Goodman play at the level that blastingsand envisions for her during the next six games that the Beavers could play in the 2019 NCAA Tournament. I would love for blastingsand to be able to come back on this forum and write "I told you so" after a memorable run by Goodman and her OSU teammates. However, I would prefer that Goodman play within herself and her abilities, not settle for launching three-pointers if she is 0/5 or worse from distance in any given game, and simply contribute the way that she has during most of the team's games this season. If she is able to do that, the Beavs will have a solid chance of making some noise in the NCAA tournament. |
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