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Post by beaverbeliever on Mar 12, 2019 9:10:26 GMT -8
We can debate how well the coaching is succeeding on the court, but Tinkle and staff are certainly turning out great student athletes.
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Post by zeroposter on Mar 12, 2019 9:53:54 GMT -8
This really is outstanding. Ethan 2nd team. Tres getting his degree at the end of this term. This is impressive.
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Post by jefframp on Mar 12, 2019 14:06:32 GMT -8
WOW! Great going guys!
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Post by bennyskid on Mar 12, 2019 19:24:50 GMT -8
Wow! I'm in awe of Big G. College is tough enough when English is your first language. And I seem to remember G saying recently that when he came to OSU, he just wanted to play ball. But he got the message that you have to get it done in the classroom if you want to see the court, and he clearly took that to heart. What a credit to Tinkle's program and to the character of the young man.
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Post by atownbeaver on Mar 13, 2019 12:30:08 GMT -8
We can debate how well the coaching is succeeding on the court, but Tinkle and staff are certainly turning out great student athletes. I am a little disappointed in our season, mainly from our somewhat weak stumble to the finish line. I think we are better than our record. However, I support Tinkle overall because of stuff like this. The basketball product is decent.. but Tinkle is an A+ representation of Oregon State. Our players are all A+ representatives of OSU. We had some up and downs and some transfers and movement, but right now, this team... this is a roster that I can say I am proud every single one of them are an OSU Beaver. At the end of the day, that is the bottom line. Tinkle has a team I am proud of. |
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Post by beaverstever on Mar 13, 2019 13:20:53 GMT -8
Totally agree here. Really impressive that we have 5 guys on a list of 11 in the conference. I am in the camp that can support a team that struggles to be relevant, but has players I am proud to represent my school as people. Part of that is because big-time college basketball (and Football) is so corrupt, you realize that it's extremely difficult to field a good team without being really slimey (and tough even when you are - see the current season a hole). I don't know for sure if WT isn't doing anything underhanded, but if he is, he's not good at it (and so I'm extremely doubtful). I also know that OSU does not have the alumni-base to compete on the corruption level. So I'll take the current results all day than the headlines at say LSU (who suddenly has a lot of talent, and we now know why): www.si.com/college-basketball/2019/03/07/will-wade-christian-dawkins-wiretap-ncaa-corruption-scandal |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Mar 13, 2019 13:45:15 GMT -8
Totally agree here. Really impressive that we have 5 guys on a list of 11 in the conference. I am in the camp that can support a team that struggles to be relevant, but has players I am proud to represent my school as people. Part of that is because big-time college basketball (and Football) is so corrupt, you realize that it's extremely difficult to field a good team without being really slimey (and tough even when you are - see the current season a hole). I don't know for sure if WT isn't doing anything underhanded, but if he is, he's not good at it (and so I'm extremely doubtful). I also know that OSU does not have the alumni-base to compete on the corruption level. So I'll take the current results all day than the headlines at say LSU (who suddenly has a lot of talent, and we now know why): www.si.com/college-basketball/2019/03/07/will-wade-christian-dawkins-wiretap-ncaa-corruption-scandalThere's another school we all know of that is suddenly in the running for top-5 talent after being mediocre for decades. Gee, I wonder how? |
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Post by seastape on Mar 13, 2019 15:49:33 GMT -8
It's interesting to note what schools have no one on the all-academic team:
cal -- one of the reputedly greatest public academic institutions in the world UCLA -- see cal UW -- see cal USC, ASU, uo -- not as highly ranked institutions, but self-proclaim themselves to be outstanding
Those are some interesting schools to have none on the all-academic teams. |
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Post by Mike84 on Mar 13, 2019 17:59:48 GMT -8
It's interesting to note what schools have no one on the all-academic team:
cal -- one of the reputedly greatest public academic institutions in the world UCLA -- see cal UW -- see cal USC, ASU, uo -- not as highly ranked institutions, but self-proclaim themselves to be outstanding
Those are some interesting schools to have none on the all-academic teams. That's an interesting observation and part of it may be a flaw in how these things are determined. I'm thrilled that several of our players are doing so well in the classroom and I don't doubt that they would do well at any of the conference schools, but is it necessarily fair to all involved to compare solely on GPA. I mean, that's how it's done, isn't it? But isn't it possible that it is harder to get an A at the most prestigious schools, where you're competing against students who came into college with a higher average GPA and SAT score? Maybe this is why/how Cal, for instance, doesn't have any on the all-academic teams? |
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Post by beaverstever on Mar 13, 2019 20:04:22 GMT -8
It's interesting to note what schools have no one on the all-academic team:
cal -- one of the reputedly greatest public academic institutions in the world UCLA -- see cal UW -- see cal USC, ASU, uo -- not as highly ranked institutions, but self-proclaim themselves to be outstanding
Those are some interesting schools to have none on the all-academic teams. That's an interesting observation and part of it may be a flaw in how these things are determined. I'm thrilled that several of our players are doing so well in the classroom and I don't doubt that they would do well at any of the conference schools, but is it necessarily fair to all involved to compare solely on GPA. I mean, that's how it's done, isn't it? But isn't it possible that it is harder to get an A at the most prestigious schools, where you're competing against students who came into college with a higher average GPA and SAT score? Maybe this is why/how Cal, for instance, doesn't have any on the all-academic teams? Apparently you haven't heard about grade inflation at places like Stanford. They basically assume you are an A student coming in, so you might as well all still be one while at Stanford. So yes, the competition is weaker at at OSU than some in conference, but the scale is harder. Bottom line, I see these awards as symbolic of how a given program's student athletes take seriously their education relative to their general student peers - that's a level standard across the institutions. |
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Post by bennyskid on Mar 13, 2019 20:11:56 GMT -8
It is not based solely on GPA. You have to have a 3.0 to be considered, but the conference considers other factors when creating this list.
In fact, Ethan's GPA was higher than Chase Jeter's, but Chase was 1st team and Ethan 2nd.
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 13, 2019 20:32:20 GMT -8
I agree with all the posts here... except giving coaches credit for what the kids produced off the court. If you've been around the academic center you'll hardly ever see the coaches. The coaches don't go to class, finish massive amounts of work online, fit in set hours of tutoring (set by the department not the hoops coach), excel on exams... all while being an athlete.
WT and ST Sr. produced GREAT kids... but, they had almost zero to do with the academic successes mentioned here. WT hasn't recruited the best of Pac12 talent, but no one can deny he has collected a group of great kids. They represent OSU very well. This isn't a thread to discuss anything but that... being All-Academic in the Pac12 is a BIG deal... and ultimately more important the being All-Pac12 athletically.
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