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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Feb 23, 2019 22:06:11 GMT -8
What a huge win! If USC had won, Oregon State would have fallen to fifth in the Pac-12. Instead, the Beavers are in third place in the Pac-12. Oregon State can take over second place with an Arizona State loss tomorrow.
Washington sits four games up on Arizona State and Oregon State atop the Pac-12. The Beavers would have the tiebreaker over the Huskies, if Arizona State or USC finishes third. Washington would have the tiebreaker over Oregon State, if UCLA or Utah finish third.
Arizona State owns all two-team tiebreakers over both Oregon State and Washington.
Oregon State is 1 1/2 games up over the two Los Angeles teams, which currently occupy fifth- (USC) and sixth-place (UCLA). With a win over the Huskies, the Beavers would have the tiebreaker over the Bruins. If Washington beats Oregon State, UCLA will have the tiebreaker over Oregon State. The Beavers own the tiebreaker over the Trojans regardless. UCLA and USC play on Thursday.
Oregon State owns the two-team tiebreaker over fourth-place Utah. Seventh-place Stanford owns the two-team tiebreaker over Oregon State.
If the season ended today, UCLA would play Washington State and the winner would play Oregon State in the Pac-12 Quarterfinals. The semifinals would feature the Arizona-Arizona State-Stanford winner. The other six teams would be on the other half of the bracket.
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Post by baseba1111 on Feb 23, 2019 22:28:00 GMT -8
What a huge win! If USC had won, Oregon State would have fallen to fifth in the Pac-12. Instead, the Beavers are in third place in the Pac-12. Oregon State can take over second place with an Arizona State loss tomorrow. Washington sits four games up on Arizona State and Oregon State atop the Pac-12. The Beavers would have the tiebreaker over the Huskies, if Arizona State or USC finishes third. Washington would have the tiebreaker over Oregon State, if UCLA or Utah finish third. Arizona State owns all two-team tiebreakers over both Oregon State and Washington. Oregon State is 1 1/2 games up over the two Los Angeles teams, which currently occupy fifth- (USC) and sixth-place (UCLA). With a win over the Huskies, the Beavers would have the tiebreaker over the Bruins. If Washington beats Oregon State, UCLA will have the tiebreaker over Oregon State. The Beavers own the tiebreaker over the Trojans regardless. UCLA and USC play on Thursday. Oregon State owns the two-team tiebreaker over fourth-place Utah. Seventh-place Stanford owns the two-team tiebreaker over Oregon State. If the season ended today, UCLA would play Washington State and the winner would play Oregon State in the Pac-12 Quarterfinals. The semifinals would feature the Arizona-Arizona State-Stanford winner. The other six teams would be on the other half of the bracket. OSU... tie breaker over UW???
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Feb 23, 2019 22:37:11 GMT -8
What a huge win! If USC had won, Oregon State would have fallen to fifth in the Pac-12. Instead, the Beavers are in third place in the Pac-12. Oregon State can take over second place with an Arizona State loss tomorrow. Washington sits four games up on Arizona State and Oregon State atop the Pac-12. The Beavers would have the tiebreaker over the Huskies, if Arizona State or USC finishes third. Washington would have the tiebreaker over Oregon State, if UCLA or Utah finish third. Arizona State owns all two-team tiebreakers over both Oregon State and Washington. Oregon State is 1 1/2 games up over the two Los Angeles teams, which currently occupy fifth- (USC) and sixth-place (UCLA). With a win over the Huskies, the Beavers would have the tiebreaker over the Bruins. If Washington beats Oregon State, UCLA will have the tiebreaker over Oregon State. The Beavers own the tiebreaker over the Trojans regardless. UCLA and USC play on Thursday. Oregon State owns the two-team tiebreaker over fourth-place Utah. Seventh-place Stanford owns the two-team tiebreaker over Oregon State. If the season ended today, UCLA would play Washington State and the winner would play Oregon State in the Pac-12 Quarterfinals. The semifinals would feature the Arizona-Arizona State-Stanford winner. The other six teams would be on the other half of the bracket. OSU... tie breaker over UW??? If both teams finish tied at 13-5. I was trying to be thorough. Washington has not yet clinched the regular season crown. The Beavers and Devils can catch the Huskies. Washington clinches the Pac-12 regular season crown with a win or losses by both Arizona State and Oregon State.
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Post by baseba1111 on Feb 23, 2019 22:43:36 GMT -8
OSU... tie breaker over UW??? If both teams finish tied at 13-5. I was trying to be thorough. Washington has not yet clinched the regular season crown. The Beavers and Devils can catch the Huskies. Washington clinches the Pac-12 regular season crown with a win or losses by both Arizona State and Oregon State. LOL... ya get that... but a bit too thorough in "real" life scenarios...
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Feb 23, 2019 22:54:33 GMT -8
If both teams finish tied at 13-5. I was trying to be thorough. Washington has not yet clinched the regular season crown. The Beavers and Devils can catch the Huskies. Washington clinches the Pac-12 regular season crown with a win or losses by both Arizona State and Oregon State. LOL... ya get that... but a bit too thorough in "real" life scenarios...
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Feb 24, 2019 21:10:46 GMT -8
What a huge win! If USC had won, Oregon State would have fallen to fifth in the Pac-12. Instead, the Beavers are in third place in the Pac-12. Oregon State can take over second place with an Arizona State loss tomorrow.Washington sits four games up on Arizona State and Oregon State atop the Pac-12. The Beavers would have the tiebreaker over the Huskies, if Arizona State or USC finishes third. Washington would have the tiebreaker over Oregon State, if UCLA or Utah finish third. Arizona State owns all two-team tiebreakers over both Oregon State and Washington. Oregon State is 1 1/2 games up over the two Los Angeles teams, which currently occupy fifth- (USC) and sixth-place (UCLA). With a win over the Huskies, the Beavers would have the tiebreaker over the Bruins. If Washington beats Oregon State, UCLA will have the tiebreaker over Oregon State. The Beavers own the tiebreaker over the Trojans regardless. UCLA and USC play on Thursday. Oregon State owns the two-team tiebreaker over fourth-place Utah. Seventh-place Stanford owns the two-team tiebreaker over Oregon State. If the season ended today, UCLA would play Washington State and the winner would play Oregon State in the Pac-12 Quarterfinals. The semifinals would feature the Arizona-Arizona State-Stanford winner. The other six teams would be on the other half of the bracket.Arizona State won, so the Devils are still in second and the Beavers are in third. The game on Sunday may be for second place in the Pac-12. The 3-6-11 pod is the same, but there was some shakeup in the 2-7-10 pod. With Arizona's win and Stanford's loss, the Wildcats jumped Colorado, Oregon, and Stanford into 7th place. Oregon fell from 9th to 10th. Thus, the net result of today's action is that Oregon replaces Stanford in the 2-7-10 pod.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 2, 2019 12:39:08 GMT -8
Updates:
With Arizona State and Oregon State's losses, Washington has won the Pac-12 regular season championship.
Currently, Oregon State sits at 9-6 and in third place. Utah also sits at 9-6, but the Beavers own the tiebreaker. Utah can pass Oregon State into third tomorrow against Colorado.
Oregon State is 1/2 game up on UCLA for an all-important bye in the Pac-12 Tournament. The Beavers are up 1 1/2 games over the current six- through eight-seeds.
The Beavers control their own destiny for the two seed. Three wins, and Oregon State clinches the spot.
If Oregon State finishes 2-1, the Beavers clinch at least a four-seed.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 2, 2019 13:33:07 GMT -8
If the season ended today, #11 Washington State would play #6 USC. The winner would play #3 Oregon State. The 2-7-10 pod would currently be #2 Arizona State, #7 Arizona, and #10 Oregon and would play the winner of the 3-6-11 pod in the semifinal. The other six teams make up the other half of the bracket.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Mar 2, 2019 15:38:06 GMT -8
What a huge win! If USC had won, Oregon State would have fallen to fifth in the Pac-12. Instead, the Beavers are in third place in the Pac-12. Oregon State can take over second place with an Arizona State loss tomorrow.Washington sits four games up on Arizona State and Oregon State atop the Pac-12. The Beavers would have the tiebreaker over the Huskies, if Arizona State or USC finishes third. Washington would have the tiebreaker over Oregon State, if UCLA or Utah finish third. Arizona State owns all two-team tiebreakers over both Oregon State and Washington. Oregon State is 1 1/2 games up over the two Los Angeles teams, which currently occupy fifth- (USC) and sixth-place (UCLA). With a win over the Huskies, the Beavers would have the tiebreaker over the Bruins. If Washington beats Oregon State, UCLA will have the tiebreaker over Oregon State. The Beavers own the tiebreaker over the Trojans regardless. UCLA and USC play on Thursday. Oregon State owns the two-team tiebreaker over fourth-place Utah. Seventh-place Stanford owns the two-team tiebreaker over Oregon State. If the season ended today, UCLA would play Washington State and the winner would play Oregon State in the Pac-12 Quarterfinals. The semifinals would feature the Arizona-Arizona State-Stanford winner. The other six teams would be on the other half of the bracket.Arizona State won, so the Devils are still in second and the Beavers are in third. The game on Sunday may be for second place in the Pac-12. The 3-6-11 pod is the same, but there was some shakeup in the 2-7-10 pod. With Arizona's win and Stanford's loss, the Wildcats jumped Colorado, Oregon, and Stanford into 7th place. Oregon fell from 9th to 10th. Thus, the net result of today's action is that Oregon replaces Stanford in the 2-7-10 pod. Who'd-a-thunk pre-season that at this point in the season OSU would be third and playing for second, while uo would be tenth in the league?
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 2, 2019 22:12:32 GMT -8
Update:
Colorado beat Utah. Only Oregon State and Washington have three games left. UCLA and Utah play, which means that the #5 team in the Pac-12 will be no better than 10-8.
Oregon State is the #2 seed, if the Beavers win the last three.
Oregon State is at least the #4 seed, if the Beavers go 2-1 over the last three.
If Oregon State beats Arizona State and splits with the Washington schools, the Beavers are at least the #3 seed.
There is a possibility of a seven-way tie for second at 10-8. There is a possibility of a seven-way tie for fourth at 9-9.
The Beavers are now by themselves in third place. Colorado has leapfrogged everyone else into sixth. If the season ended today, Colorado would play Washington State, and the winner would play Oregon State.
The 2-7-10 pod is still Arizona State-Oregon-Arizona. The only difference is that, with the Ducks' win over the Wildcats, Oregon is now the #7 seed and Arizona is now the #10 seed.
The other side of the bracket is currently Utah, Washington, and all four California teams.
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Post by blastingsand on Mar 2, 2019 23:45:17 GMT -8
Conference play is so ugly it's unbelievable. How did it get to this point in football and basketball?
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Post by gnawitall on Mar 3, 2019 0:40:48 GMT -8
Arizona State won, so the Devils are still in second and the Beavers are in third. The game on Sunday may be for second place in the Pac-12. The 3-6-11 pod is the same, but there was some shakeup in the 2-7-10 pod. With Arizona's win and Stanford's loss, the Wildcats jumped Colorado, Oregon, and Stanford into 7th place. Oregon fell from 9th to 10th. Thus, the net result of today's action is that Oregon replaces Stanford in the 2-7-10 pod. Who'd-a-thunk pre-season that at this point in the season OSU would be third and playing for second, while uo would be tenth in the league? it's nice for sure but unfortunately that 10th place team has the talent to win the tournament. At one point they were ahead of zone 39-35 (2nd half) and outscored them 33-12! Wish I could count them out wherever their seeded but I can't. Poo
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 3, 2019 22:20:50 GMT -8
Update:
Washington clinched the #1 seed. Arizona State clinched the #2 seed. Washington State clinched the #11 seed. California clinched the #12 seed. The other eight teams are within 1 1/2 games of one another.
Oregon State is in a three-way tie for third but has the tiebreakers (currently) over UCLA and Utah. The Beavers will keep the tiebreaker over the Utes. Oregon State will maintain the tiebreaker over UCLA with a win over Washington, but the Bruins will have the tiebreaker over the Beavers, if Washington beats Oregon State.
Oregon State clinches the three seed, if the Beavers win the final two games and Arizona State wins or UCLA loses at least one game.
If Oregon State goes 2-0, the Beavers will be at least a four seed. Oregon State will be the three seed, unless Arizona State, Oregon State, and UCLA finish tied at 11-7. In that case, the Beavers will finish fourth.
There is a possibility of a five-way tie for third at 10-8.
There is a possibility of a seven-way tie for fourth at 9-9.
The 3-6-11 pod remained Oregon State-Colorado-Washington State. Stanford, with its loss to Washington, fell to tenth. USC leapfrogged Oregon into seventh. 2-7-10 is now Arizona State-USC-Stanford. Arizona and Oregon are now on the other side of the bracket.
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Mar 3, 2019 23:01:22 GMT -8
Update: Washington clinched the #1 seed. Arizona State clinched the #2 seed. Washington State clinched the #11 seed. California clinched the #12 seed. The other eight teams are within 1 1/2 games of one another. Oregon State is in a three-way tie for third but has the tiebreakers (currently) over UCLA and Utah. The Beavers will keep the tiebreaker over the Utes. Oregon State will maintain the tiebreaker over UCLA with a win over Washington, but the Bruins will have the tiebreaker over the Beavers, if Washington beats Oregon State. Oregon State clinches the three seed, if the Beavers win the final two games and Arizona State wins or UCLA loses at least one game. If Oregon State goes 2-0, the Beavers will be at least a four seed. Oregon State will be the three seed, unless Arizona State, Oregon State, and UCLA finish tied at 11-7. In that case, the Beavers will finish fourth. There is a possibility of a five-way tie for third at 10-8. There is a possibility of a seven-way tie for fourth at 9-9. The 3-6-11 pod remained Oregon State-Colorado-Washington State. Stanford, with its loss to Washington, fell to tenth. USC leapfrogged Oregon into seventh. 2-7-10 is now Arizona State-USC-Stanford. Arizona and Oregon are now on the other side of the bracket. What's our likely prognosis if we split the Washington schools next week? That seems to be the most likely outcome in my mind at the moment (the W @wsu not @uw). That puts us at 10-8 and then hoping that UCLA loses both games in the mountains and USC beats Utah? That puts us at (3?) still?
After looking at it myself my calculations say we have the tiebreaker over SC/Colorado/uo who are all at 8-8. The teams that we could still end up tied with that have H2H tiebreakers over us are Stanford and UA but both are at 8-9.
So just 1 win this week should all but clinch a bye based off of our H2H records and the fact that it is impossible for both UCLA and Utah to finish at 11-7. I'd much rather just win both and not worry about it but I'm not exactly filled with confidence after the last two games where we had great opportunities to lock it up (and @ucla too....).
Correct me if I'm wrong but that's what I got.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 4, 2019 8:33:03 GMT -8
Update: Washington clinched the #1 seed. Arizona State clinched the #2 seed. Washington State clinched the #11 seed. California clinched the #12 seed. The other eight teams are within 1 1/2 games of one another. Oregon State is in a three-way tie for third but has the tiebreakers (currently) over UCLA and Utah. The Beavers will keep the tiebreaker over the Utes. Oregon State will maintain the tiebreaker over UCLA with a win over Washington, but the Bruins will have the tiebreaker over the Beavers, if Washington beats Oregon State. Oregon State clinches the three seed, if the Beavers win the final two games and Arizona State wins or UCLA loses at least one game. If Oregon State goes 2-0, the Beavers will be at least a four seed. Oregon State will be the three seed, unless Arizona State, Oregon State, and UCLA finish tied at 11-7. In that case, the Beavers will finish fourth. There is a possibility of a five-way tie for third at 10-8. There is a possibility of a seven-way tie for fourth at 9-9. The 3-6-11 pod remained Oregon State-Colorado-Washington State. Stanford, with its loss to Washington, fell to tenth. USC leapfrogged Oregon into seventh. 2-7-10 is now Arizona State-USC-Stanford. Arizona and Oregon are now on the other side of the bracket. What's our likely prognosis if we split the Washington schools next week? That seems to be the most likely outcome in my mind at the moment (the W @wsu not @uw). That puts us at 10-8 and then hoping that UCLA loses both games in the mountains and USC beats Utah? That puts us at (3?) still?
After looking at it myself my calculations say we have the tiebreaker over SC/Colorado/uo who are all at 8-8. The teams that we could still end up tied with that have H2H tiebreakers over us are Stanford and UA but both are at 8-9.
So just 1 win this week should all but clinch a bye based off of our H2H records and the fact that it is impossible for both UCLA and Utah to finish at 11-7. I'd much rather just win both and not worry about it but I'm not exactly filled with confidence after the last two games where we had great opportunities to lock it up (and @ucla too....).
Correct me if I'm wrong but that's what I got.
I looked at this. Oregon State owns tiebreakers over Colorado, Oregon, USC, and Utah. Oregon State would also own the tiebreaker over UCLA with a win over Washington. UCLA will hold it otherwise. Oregon State owns all three-team 10-8 tiebreakers, except for potentially Oregon-UCLA. Oregon State would hold that tiebreaker with a win over Washington. UCLA will hold it otherwise. Oregon State wins all four- and five-way tiebreakers. The relevant 10-8 Pac-12 schedule breaks down like this: Wednesday: Oregon State @ Washington @ 7 p.m. PS Oregon @ Washington State @ 8 p.m. PST Thursday: UCLA @ Colorado @ 6 p.m. PST USC @ Utah @ 7 p.m. PST Saturday: Oregon State @ Washington State @ Noon PST USC @ Colorado @ 2 p.m. PST UCLA @ Utah @ 4 p.m. PST Oregon @ Washington @ 7 p.m. PST If Oregon State beats Washington, the Beavers are at least a #4-seed. If Oregon State loses to Washington, Oregon State's best bet is for Colorado to beat UCLA and/or USC to beat Utah. If one or both of those happen AND the Beavers beat the Cougars, Oregon State is still guaranteed at least a #4-seed. So, a UCLA and/or a Utah loss would set up a win-and-you're-in scenario. If Oregon State loses to Washington AND UCLA and Utah both win, the UCLA-Utah winner would win the #3-seed. If UCLA wins, Oregon State is the #4-seed with a win over Washington State. If Utah wins, UCLA is the #4-seed, regardless of what Oregon State does. This scenario would involve Oregon State winning the noon PST game and then cheering on UCLA to beat Utah at 4 p.m. PST. There still is the potential for a tie for fourth at 9-9. If UCLA goes 2-0, Utah goes 0-2, Colorado beats USC, Arizona loses to Arizona State, California beats Stanford, and Oregon loses at least once, Oregon State is guaranteed the fourth seed, regardless of whether the Beavers win or lose another game. I have not run the other 9-9 tiebreakers, though, to see what is most advantageous to Oregon State. There would be a multi-way tie at 9-9 as long as UCLA or Utah goes 2-0, the other goes 0-2 and Colorado and USC split on the weekend. The only game that is prior to the Oregon State-Washington State game would be California-Stanford nightcap on Thursday at 8 p.m. PST. If California wins, that would help Oregon State's cause. Between the Washington and Washington State game, Stanford and Utah losing appear to be the most beneficial to Oregon State with regards to getting at least a #4-seed. UCLA losing to Colorado would be a safety net, in case Utah wins.
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