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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Feb 10, 2019 14:33:24 GMT -8
Oregon State last won the Pac-10 in 1990. In 1990, the Beavers jumped out to a 10-1 conference record.
Since 1990, Oregon State's best 11-game conference start has been 7-4.
Since 1990, no Oregon State team has started conference play 8-4.
Oregon State is 15-8 overall. In the 29 years since 1990, the number of 15-win regular seasons since 1990: Seven. In Wayne Tinkle's five years, Oregon State has hit the mark in three. After 1990, Jim Anderson hit the mark once, Jay John hit the mark once, and Craig Robinson hit the mark twice. Neither Eddie Payne nor Ritchie McKay ever posted a 15-win season.
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Post by baseba1111 on Feb 10, 2019 15:09:19 GMT -8
Not sure how you exclude CBI? It's part of his record. Trying to make a point I guess...
PS- CR reached 15+ wins on three occasions... '08-09 (18), '11-12 (21), '13-14 (16)
Sorry, whether you or others like it, CBI wins count. Sure did with fans when he was winning them!
It's one thing to use stats to make your point, it's another to just fabricate them.
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Post by beaver94 on Feb 10, 2019 15:34:05 GMT -8
Not sure how you exclude CBI? It's part of his record. Trying to make a point I guess... PS- CR reached 15+ wins on three occasions... '08-09 (18), '11-12 (21), '13-14 (16) Sorry, whether you or others like it, CBI wins count. Sure did with fans when he was winning them! It's one thing to use stats to make your point, it's another to just fabricate them. I’m guessing he’s trying to exclude tournament games. Since it took CR extra games to get to those 15 wins.
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Post by baseba1111 on Feb 10, 2019 15:38:58 GMT -8
Not sure how you exclude CBI? It's part of his record. Trying to make a point I guess... PS- CR reached 15+ wins on three occasions... '08-09 (18), '11-12 (21), '13-14 (16) Sorry, whether you or others like it, CBI wins count. Sure did with fans when he was winning them! It's one thing to use stats to make your point, it's another to just fabricate them. I’m guessing he’s trying to exclude tournament games. Since it took CR extra games to get to those 15 wins. Again... a 15 win season is just that. You don't get to add or exclude what you don't like. I'm certain that if we'd won in the tourney he'd count that as a 20 win season! Like WT, hate CR... visa versa... but, making up stats with personal provisions proves nothing.
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Post by seastape on Feb 10, 2019 15:55:46 GMT -8
Not sure how you exclude CBI? It's part of his record. Trying to make a point I guess... PS- CR reached 15+ wins on three occasions... '08-09 (18), '11-12 (21), '13-14 (16) Sorry, whether you or others like it, CBI wins count. Sure did with fans when he was winning them! It's one thing to use stats to make your point, it's another to just fabricate them. I don't blame people for not counting CBI wins (or losses) vs. OSU teams that came before the CBI was invented; that's a fair assessment.
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Post by beaverbeliever71 on Feb 10, 2019 16:03:31 GMT -8
Not sure how you exclude CBI? It's part of his record. Trying to make a point I guess... PS- CR reached 15+ wins on three occasions... '08-09 (18), '11-12 (21), '13-14 (16) Sorry, whether you or others like it, CBI wins count. Sure did with fans when he was winning them! It's one thing to use stats to make your point, it's another to just fabricate them. I’m guessing he’s trying to exclude tournament games. Since it took CR extra games to get to those 15 wins. All the wins and losses for the entire season count.. cant exclude CBI, NIT, NCAA or whatever.. now if the OP had said REGULAR SEASON wins that would be different
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Post by greshambeaver on Feb 10, 2019 16:23:06 GMT -8
Not sure how you exclude CBI? It's part of his record. Trying to make a point I guess... PS- CR reached 15+ wins on three occasions... '08-09 (18), '11-12 (21), '13-14 (16) Sorry, whether you or others like it, CBI wins count. Sure did with fans when he was winning them! It's one thing to use stats to make your point, it's another to just fabricate them. For some reason CR got lackadaisical when is came to discipline and his dedication. I think he would have or could have been a very good coach. I don't think he had to continue the 5 AM practices, but he basically let the discipline go to hell, there was no bringing it back, he lost the respect of the players. When a coach does that he is done!
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Feb 10, 2019 17:01:48 GMT -8
Uh, we got into the CBI tournament the year he's talking about (2009) for one reason only, and it wasn't because our 13 win team was screwed by the NCAA or NIT tournaments. It took those 5 CBI wins to get to .500. We got in again in 2010 with 14 wins. It wasn't until 2016 before they took another 14 win team again. Now that teams are turning down CBI invites regularly they are starting to offer more 14/15 win teams.
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Post by baseba1111 on Feb 10, 2019 17:47:00 GMT -8
Uh, we got into the CBI tournament the year he's talking about (2009) for one reason only, and it wasn't because our 13 win team was screwed by the NCAA or NIT tournaments. It took those 5 CBI wins to get to .500. We got in again in 2010 with 14 wins. It wasn't until 2016 before they took another 14 win team again. Now that teams are turning down CBI invites regularly they are starting to offer more 14/15 win teams. You can pontificate all you want. The "whys" and "wherefores" do not matter. They are wins... they count on the season record according to every organization keeping coaching and school records. Again, like it or not CR not only had (3) 15+ win seasons, he had a 21 win season. Dislike of CR doesn't change facts.
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Post by Judge Smails on Feb 10, 2019 18:42:49 GMT -8
Uh, we got into the CBI tournament the year he's talking about (2009) for one reason only, and it wasn't because our 13 win team was screwed by the NCAA or NIT tournaments. It took those 5 CBI wins to get to .500. We got in again in 2010 with 14 wins. It wasn't until 2016 before they took another 14 win team again. Now that teams are turning down CBI invites regularly they are starting to offer more 14/15 win teams. You can pontificate all you want. The "whys" and "wherefores" do not matter. They are wins... they count on the season record according to every organization keeping coaching and school records. Again, like it or not CR not only had (3) 15+ win seasons, he had a 21 win season. Dislike of CR doesn't change facts. And like it or not CR never got us to the tourney.
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Post by baseba1111 on Feb 10, 2019 19:32:50 GMT -8
You can pontificate all you want. The "whys" and "wherefores" do not matter. They are wins... they count on the season record according to every organization keeping coaching and school records. Again, like it or not CR not only had (3) 15+ win seasons, he had a 21 win season. Dislike of CR doesn't change facts. And like it or not CR never got us to the tourney. As usual... not/never was part of this discussion of seasonal win totals. But, typical.
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Post by Judge Smails on Feb 10, 2019 19:52:00 GMT -8
And like it or not CR never got us to the tourney. As usual... not/never was part of this discussion of seasonal win totals. But, typical. And as typical, your CR love shines through.
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Post by baseba1111 on Feb 10, 2019 20:08:40 GMT -8
As usual... not/never was part of this discussion of seasonal win totals. But, typical. And as typical, your CR love shines through. Again you... you just can't read. It wasn't a comparison, simple clarification of facts. I've never stated that I was a CR fan. Only tire of the incorrect presentation of "fact" or disparaging of former coach(es) to build rep of the present... no matter the sport. If said current coach was indeed so successful there'd be no need to keep comparing to former coaches. Right?
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Feb 10, 2019 22:43:07 GMT -8
Uh, we got into the CBI tournament the year he's talking about (2009) for one reason only, and it wasn't because our 13 win team was screwed by the NCAA or NIT tournaments. It took those 5 CBI wins to get to .500. We got in again in 2010 with 14 wins. It wasn't until 2016 before they took another 14 win team again. Now that teams are turning down CBI invites regularly they are starting to offer more 14/15 win teams. You can pontificate all you want. The "whys" and "wherefores" do not matter. They are wins... they count on the season record according to every organization keeping coaching and school records. Again, like it or not CR not only had (3) 15+ win seasons, he had a 21 win season. Dislike of CR doesn't change facts. Actually, I liked CR. I'd have been OK with him staying if he hadn't lost the team or appeared to have a plan. That said, the current coach was left with little to work with and inherited a 20 year reputation of lack of success. What amazes me is your defense of Robinson OVER any recognition that Tinkle has done at least as good of a job, better if you look at how many starters and experienced players he inherited vs the number Robinson inherited when he replaced coach John. Robinson managed 15 wins in 2 of 6 regular seasons, Tinkle's already done it 3 times in 4 and 2/3rd seasons yet you are continuously berating him. Just odd. Seems like you have an axe to grind.
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Post by blastingsand on Feb 10, 2019 22:51:54 GMT -8
and so many non-believers earlier part of the year! What's scary is we let a few games go, record could have been much better
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