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Post by jrbeav59 on Feb 4, 2019 11:22:12 GMT -8
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Post by albanianbeav on Feb 4, 2019 11:30:43 GMT -8
How many ncaa gymnastics teams are there?
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Post by bennyskid on Feb 4, 2019 11:34:49 GMT -8
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Post by jrbeav59 on Feb 4, 2019 11:41:34 GMT -8
How many ncaa gymnastics teams are there? There are eight in the P12, all ranked in the top 25, USC, WSU and CU don't have teams, and tsdtr has tumbling. |
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Post by mbabeav on Feb 4, 2019 13:00:17 GMT -8
How can Boise State have a top 10 team, and I have never heard of Denver; are we sure these aren't tumbling teams??
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Post by gnawitall on Feb 4, 2019 13:14:35 GMT -8
we seem to be close to the top quite a bit. This is a sport I don't have much knowledge in. Are we one or two top recruits from cracking the mainstays? |
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Feb 4, 2019 13:49:22 GMT -8
My wife and I are getting back to "just the two of us" dating (kids now in High School and can be left on their own......or actually they are now too cool to hang with their parents anymore), so I took the opportunity to get season tix for WBB and gymnastics. We are both OSU alums who met at OSU, so back in the day our cheap dates were OSU sports (hanging out on the ramp of Gill a day or two ahead of season tix distribution circa 1987....fun times), so back to that again. Gymnastics is something new to us. OSU is very good, as are most of the Pac-12 teams. Season tickets were inexpensive for very good seats. This past weekend was a fantastic event - over 6700 people in attendance to see OSU square off with last year's national champion UCLA. Some fantastic performances on both sides (some even earning the much-coveted 10.0). OSU "won" in that they raised their average scores, even though they "lost" the meet. If you can make it to a meet, very worth it, though it is very different for us more pedestrian sports fans (e.g. sports involving 'player-vs-player combat'), so we are still ramping on what's what. Also (somewhat of a downside) so far the WBB home games and gymnastics home meets have coincided, so we have had a "date" Friday night, Saturday afternoon and Sunday afternoon two of the last three weekends (but I guess that is how you stay married for 25+ years  . Go Beavers! |
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Post by bennyskid on Feb 4, 2019 16:00:56 GMT -8
Well, if Jade Carey had arrived on campus, instead of being forced by the blithering idiots at USAG to chase around the world to get her Olympic qualifications, you could conservatively add something like half a point to our team scores. Just cross off one of those 9.7-somethings is every event and replace it with something in the 9.9's. (As the season progresses and those 9.7's turn into 9.8's, the difference would decrease.) With Jade we might have beaten the defending National Champs, and we certainly would be in the national conversation.
So, yes, we're one recruit away from being a national factor. We've actually won two Pac-12 championships in this decade, and we beat (perennial NC contender) Utah in our dual last year. But for some reason we tend to get the yips at nationals and we've never quite broken through at the national level.
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Post by albanianbeav on Feb 4, 2019 16:03:37 GMT -8
How many ncaa gymnastics teams are there? There are eight in the P12, all ranked in the top 25, USC, WSU and CU don't have teams, and tsdtr has tumbling. Once we win a national title, the ducks will have a team, recruit the best coach, and build a state of the art facility.....sorry to muddy this otherwise great thread with duck talk, couldn’t resist. |
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Post by steinlager on Feb 4, 2019 21:43:20 GMT -8
There are eight in the P12, all ranked in the top 25, USC, WSU and CU don't have teams, and tsdtr has tumbling. Once we win a national title, the ducks will have a team, recruit the best coach, and build a state of the art facility.....sorry to muddy this otherwise great thread with duck talk, couldn’t resist. Their Uncle Phil and Kilwrestling don't seem to throw money at women's sports as readily but wouldn't put it past them to buy something shiny. |
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Feb 4, 2019 21:55:14 GMT -8
Once we win a national title, the ducks will have a team, recruit the best coach, and build a state of the art facility.....sorry to muddy this otherwise great thread with duck talk, couldn’t resist. Their Uncle Phil and Kilwrestling don't seem to throw money at women's sports as readily but wouldn't put it past them to buy something shiny. And they attract those who also value all that is shiny........ (Aside - in football I see where they just signed as a PWO the kid of that loser rap star from the Super Bowl half time show, the one who rapped for ~10 seconds, the one whose biggest claim to fame is killing off seemingly thousands of foxes for a completely excessive, unnecessary and offensive coat.......I suspect he will be doing half time shows for Uncle Phil at the landfill soon........"If animals have to be murdered for your coat, just choose something else for fox sake". And kid, consider choosing a different school for fox sake :-). ) Bring up the 'ucks, and I will join you with completely OT muddying of the thread, @albanianbeaver..... Go Beavers! |
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Post by nabeav on Mar 15, 2019 9:08:25 GMT -8
Well, if Jade Carey had arrived on campus, instead of being forced by the blithering idiots at USAG to chase around the world to get her Olympic qualifications, you could conservatively add something like half a point to our team scores. Just cross off one of those 9.7-somethings is every event and replace it with something in the 9.9's. (As the season progresses and those 9.7's turn into 9.8's, the difference would decrease.) With Jade we might have beaten the defending National Champs, and we certainly would be in the national conversation. So, yes, we're one recruit away from being a national factor. We've actually won two Pac-12 championships in this decade, and we beat (perennial NC contender) Utah in our dual last year. But for some reason we tend to get the yips at nationals and we've never quite broken through at the national level. I just found out who Jade Carey is today, but from what I read she made the decision to chase this automatic qualifier to the Olympics on her own to ensure she was selected for 2020 and not have to be selected by a committee or governing board. She could've just waited for the Olympic Trials like everyone else. But....holy crap is she good at this gymnastics thing. |
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Mar 15, 2019 12:52:28 GMT -8
I found this article in the GT about the 3 graduating senior gymnasts to be quite gratifying. Not only do we have a successful program by all athletic measures, but the gymnasts being produced by the program are quite successful..... In my books, getting hired by Google as a Computer Scientist, being admitted to Law School (hopefully she gets one of those Pac-12 post-graduate scholarships) and considering med schools to enroll in fits my definition of "quite successful". NCAA championships would be fantastic, but we can take pride in having true student athletes in the program. Go Beavers! |
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Post by bennyskid on Mar 15, 2019 15:28:16 GMT -8
I just found out who Jade Carey is today, but from what I read she made the decision to chase this automatic qualifier to the Olympics on her own to ensure she was selected for 2020 and not have to be selected by a committee or governing board. She could've just waited for the Olympic Trials like everyone else. To summarize her situation, Jade is the strongest specialist in the country in Vault and Floor. She's not as strong in the other events - she's somewhere around #8 in the all-around. USAG is set to pick FOUR girls for the team. At the Olympics, the top three scores in each event go towards the team score, so you can only have one scratch or fall per event. So one strategy is to pick the four best all-rounders, to minimize the chance of having to count a low score. And the other strategy is to pick a couple all-rounders and a couple specialists, to maximize the chance of a high score. Most commentary I've seen suggests that the team pick the top three all-rounders plus Jade. Some think they should have two AA's, Jade, and one of two beam specialists.
(It is actually more complicated that this, as the team can have up to six members, but frankly I don't understand all the permutations and I don't think it really impacts the story.)
There is a second way to get to the Olympics, and that's to earn top honors at these "world cup" events. Winners are on the national teams, regardless of what the national organization says. However, the world cup circuit starts well before the national team gets selected.
The USAG is in chaos. And even when it hasn't been in chaos, it's been terribly run. No one could tell Jade whether the team would go with the "pick not to lose", the "pick to win", or the middle route. If the answer is A, she has almost no chance of being selected. If the answer is B or C, she's pretty much a shoo-in. She was faced with a decision . . . spend her winter at OSU, competing in the NCAA, and wait for the USAG qualifiers this spring, not knowing which strategy they would use. Or go overseas, win some world cup meets on her own, and claim a spot on the team no matter what the bureaucrats decide.
Every commentary I've seen says that Jade should be on the team. But instead of staying home and practicing with some of the best coaches and most supportive teammates in the world, she's roaming the world on her own, with no team and minimal coaching, trying to make sure she doesn't miss the best chance of an Olympic medal she'll ever have.
Thanks, USAG.
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