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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 26, 2019 14:51:34 GMT -8
Like you keep track... like what does it matter to you... like why do you post about posters during games vs the game? Its opinion... it's a message board... all sorts of comments are posted... who cares? I suppose your right and it doesnt matter.. just notice how certain posters only seem to post and bitch when things are going bad.. but not when things going well.. but like you said it's opinion Well, me personally post during both, more negative as I'm totally not a believer in WT but love some of the talent. I'm more of a poster towards fan attitudes and excuses. The acceptance of .500/mediocre and that we can't do better is utter BS and a loser's attitude. One very few have in other areas of their lives, but concerning OSU hoops its fine cuz its better than the past. So... the vast majority, no matter how poorly worded or interpreted, rail against those who offer endless excuses to accept this level of play, development, and recruiting.
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Post by beaverdreams on Jan 26, 2019 14:55:41 GMT -8
Is it just me or did kyler look for the first time like a player not ready for big time. Also, I wish big G would use his physical strength and size to finish strong when he’s in close....... seems like he tries to finesse it a lil too much.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 26, 2019 14:57:40 GMT -8
Is it just me or did kyler look for the first time like a player not ready for big time. Also, I wish big G would use his physical strength and size to finish strong when he’s in close....... seems like he tries to finesse it a lil too much. Pretty much the same in Zona...
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Post by messi on Jan 26, 2019 15:04:40 GMT -8
79-69 doogs win
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Post by spudbeaver on Jan 26, 2019 15:07:46 GMT -8
Topped off by the token too late comeback. Whoever made the point about pressing (the lack of it) as it was effective late when we did do it (too late).
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Post by beaver94 on Jan 26, 2019 15:13:41 GMT -8
Topped off by the token too late comeback. Whoever made the point about pressing (the lack of it) as it was effective late when we did do it (too late). Seemed like it worked once, then they got beat badly for a dunk and never tried it again.
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 26, 2019 15:26:52 GMT -8
I do like that we fought until the end. If we don’t come out 0-11 to start, we might have had a chance. That took the crowd out of the game.
You can really see our main issue when we play a team like UW. We have 3 very skilled players, but all are a half a step slow in comparison to other top players in the conference. UW has some very skilled athletes and although their starting 5 is undersized, they make up for it with their physicality and quickness.
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 26, 2019 15:49:56 GMT -8
This is why I can’t stand the majority of tv guys He just said we’ve done a much better job and made great half time adjustments offensively We have made zero adjustments. Our zone offense has no action. We dribble sideways , occasionally set ball screens on the top wings, and occasionally use a wing to flash to the high post and create an overload There is no continuity or structure so basically Wayne is asking 20 year olds to improvise. That never ends well against good defenses Our zero adjustments let the team out score uw in the second half. If you were watching, they did a much better job getting the ball to the high post in the 2nd half. I’d call that an adjustment. We also did a better job mixing up defenses in the 2nd half There’s a reason that Syracuse is so consistently good. The matchup zone that Hopkins brought from there to uw is very tough to run a traditional zone offense against.
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 26, 2019 17:30:27 GMT -8
Our zero adjustments let the team out score uw in the second half. If you were watching, they did a much better job getting the ball to the high post in the 2nd half. I’d call that an adjustment. We also did a better job mixing up defenses in the 2nd half There’s a reason that Syracuse is so consistently good. The matchup zone that Hopkins brought from there to uw is very tough to run a traditional zone offense against. Uh, no they didn’t. We were down 13 at half. If you were watching, we didn’t do better at all. In fact, We were down by 20 with just over 5 minutes left. The reason the score looks like the game was competitive is because we scored 12 points in the last 1:25 of the game during garbage time where Washington missed a handful of free throws. Uh,yeah we did. I know math must be hard for you, but we lost by 10, not 13. If you don’t think that’s better than 13, that’s on you. And yes, I was at the game so I was watching
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 26, 2019 17:43:14 GMT -8
I do wish there was a run when points, runs or touchdowns scored no longer count.
Points scored in the last 90 seconds?
Runs in the final two innings?
Touchdowns with less than five minutes to go?
Basketball games are 40 minutes long, baseball games are nine innings, and football games or 60 minutes. They all count. Not always equally, but they all count.
I think UW is pretty good, better than advertised. We got outplayed. So did the other six Pac-12 teams they've beaten this year, and all the OOC teams they beat.
We didn't play well. W e have plenty of company this year against UW.
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Post by gnawitall on Jan 26, 2019 17:55:36 GMT -8
Okay , here’s a positive , Tres Tinkle is SO good Wouldn’t it be nice if he were able to get good shots WITHIN our offense. As in, we could get him OPEN looks Imagine how good he’d be then Unfortunately , almost always, he has to create his own shot because our offense is so stagnant. Which is why Tres’ USG% and Poss% is 2nd in the Pac 12. And even WITH THAT, he is still extremely efficient Can you imagine him in an offense that actually had movement and structure? interestingly I was watching the Kansas/Kentucky game and two out of three possessions Kentucky stood around on offense. Some player had the ball in the key at the top of the dotted line and threw up a junk shot on both those possessions and both times three were three guys beyond the arc and one guy mid range and NONE of them crashed the boards. Now, Kentucky is ranked #8 or 9 but are very talented and can get away with that piss poor play. Maybe our problem is that the players we get in this And One era don't realize they need to make more effort in the little things to become better than average players and team.
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Post by mb on Jan 26, 2019 19:29:53 GMT -8
Why does our team seem so Physically (Possibly Mentally) weak in these games? I am sure a lot of it is technique, but it looks like we will have 3 or 4 guys in position for a rebound and one Washington player will inevitably grab it. Seems we very seldom get second chance points?.?. Am I wrong? Missing something? I am a Westler, so Basketball is not my strong suit. COACHING!!
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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 26, 2019 19:46:03 GMT -8
Why does our team seem so Physically (Possibly Mentally) weak in these games? I am sure a lot of it is technique, but it looks like we will have 3 or 4 guys in position for a rebound and one Washington player will inevitably grab it. Seems we very seldom get second chance points?.?. Am I wrong? Missing something? I am a Westler, so Basketball is not my strong suit. COACHING!! No that’s a 1-3 defense, which is the hardest defense to box out. We needed to try something in the 2nd half, but that is the downside to that defense
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Post by spudbeaver on Jan 26, 2019 21:53:10 GMT -8
Judge, I can’t believe it, but I’m with pcm. It wasn’t close after half until it didn’t matter.
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Post by albanianbeav on Jan 27, 2019 9:26:47 GMT -8
I won’t dwell on the negative, we were beaten by a better team. I was hoping we would compete given the recent success we have had with them, but their talent level is way higher and way deeper.
I was encouraged by the play of AV and AH. AV had 4 assists in 16 min, no turnovers, and provided some needed quickness on d. He was driving with purpose, and dishing when it wasn’t there. I am a proponent of him getting more minutes simply because the offensive flow looked better when he was in there and I think his confidence will grow with more pt. AH seemed to relax and just play the game. I know he didn’t do anything off the charts stat wise, it was just nice to see glimpses of what he is capable of. I hope he and the coaches can build on that.
Someone mentioned KK looking human, which I think can be attributed to people watching our game tape and game planning for it. He is not going to surprise anyone any more. Just means he has to continue to improve.
ET had a disappointing game, but I may have unfairly high expectations of him. Given the attention STJ and TT get there needs to be more opportunity for him on offense.
TT needs to figure out how to help the offense even when he is getting triple teamed. I’m not suggesting it is any easy task, especially when you look at the length and quickness uw was bringing at him (I would just huck the ball out of bounds), but I know the answer is not driving to the rack at all costs trying to draw the foul. We beat them last year by TT/AH working the high post area and dropping in 8-footers. We didn’t do that once in this game. I remember thinking after last year’s game we clearly out coached them (it was a half time adjustment). I’m not sure why that was absent in this game.
STJ sure has a knack for scoring. I wish he had the same knack for d. This game was the story of two d’s, theirs super good, ours super poor.
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