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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 17, 2019 23:45:18 GMT -8
It won't be hard to replace their contributes to date. As has been pointed out, criticizing WT for recruiting a highly rated 7 footer. Losing him because he couldn't compete for playing time is as good of a reason for losing a player as any. Sorry, but Jack going to a 4-12 program who got blasted by a bad WSU team ... one with nobody over 6-9 to compete with for playing time down low doesn't strike me as the path of someone with something big to prove. And I've never been that subscribes a bunch into 'you can't teach height'. We of Liam Hughes history should know that's not enough. There are lots of 7 footers out there that don't belong in D1 basketball - heck, a local DII team I follow has two of them. sfstategators.com/roster.aspx?path=mbball&What will be tough to replace is two more roster slots with 1 less year in the program down the road. Ya... because recruiting is going so well. No problem losing half of each recruiting class. No one knows how a recruit will turn out, but if they leave you know exactly what they contribute. And, as I stated it's a bad look to keep losing and having to replace. Of course, doing so those on this board will always have the "we're young" excuse. We're definitely not in the bottom tier in the league coaching, but you could easily argue we are in overall roster talent. You can't develop them if they're not here.
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Post by beaver94 on Jan 18, 2019 0:26:22 GMT -8
It won't be hard to replace their contributes to date. As has been pointed out, criticizing WT for recruiting a highly rated 7 footer. Losing him because he couldn't compete for playing time is as good of a reason for losing a player as any. Sorry, but Jack going to a 4-12 program who got blasted by a bad WSU team ... one with nobody over 6-9 to compete with for playing time down low doesn't strike me as the path of someone with something big to prove. And I've never been that subscribes a bunch into 'you can't teach height'. We of Liam Hughes history should know that's not enough. There are lots of 7 footers out there that don't belong in D1 basketball - heck, a local DII team I follow has two of them. sfstategators.com/roster.aspx?path=mbball&What will be tough to replace is two more roster slots with 1 less year in the program down the road. Ya... because recruiting is going so well. No problem losing half of each recruiting class. No one knows how a recruit will turn out, but if they leave you know exactly what they contribute. And, as I stated it's a bad look to keep losing and having to replace. Of course, doing so those on this board will always have the "we're young" excuse. We're definitely not in the bottom tier in the league coaching, but you could easily argue we are in overall roster talent. You can't develop them if they're not here. I kind of remember Tinkle catching some heat on this board earlier in the year when he mentioned something about being young.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 18, 2019 1:07:22 GMT -8
Ya... because recruiting is going so well. No problem losing half of each recruiting class. No one knows how a recruit will turn out, but if they leave you know exactly what they contribute. And, as I stated it's a bad look to keep losing and having to replace. Of course, doing so those on this board will always have the "we're young" excuse. We're definitely not in the bottom tier in the league coaching, but you could easily argue we are in overall roster talent. You can't develop them if they're not here. I kind of remember Tinkle catching some heat on this board earlier in the year when he mentioned something about being young. You keep losing recruits you'll stay young unless you're going with transfers.
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Post by bill82 on Jan 18, 2019 4:38:23 GMT -8
I kind of remember Tinkle catching some heat on this board earlier in the year when he mentioned something about being young. You keep losing recruits you'll stay young unless you're going with transfers. Tinkle used "there are only two kids with more than two years in the program" to wrap transfers into his bundle of excuses.
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Jan 19, 2019 16:53:36 GMT -8
Transferring to find playing time seems to be more of a trend these days (or we hear about it more thanks to twitter and internet boards and ....). That said, recruiting a player represents an investment. Getting them on campus and into their coursework and to become an integral part of the team is an investment. For them to then depart is a loss. Not good return on investment.
Hopefully it is as simple as PT, and not something endemic in the program that they don't see until they get here. There seems to have been a large number of departures of late, but I don't have any facts or figures to compare and contrast (though I know we had a crap-ton of departures in the Eddie Payne era as well that derailed what looked to be a program almost back on track).
The 3 in the backcourt we are getting next year look like solid gets, lets hope we can get them on campus and keep them!
Go Beavers!
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Post by albanianbeav on Jan 19, 2019 17:07:13 GMT -8
Transferring to find playing time seems to be more of a trend these days (or we hear about it more thanks to twitter and internet boards and ....). That said, recruiting a player represents an investment. Getting them on campus and into their coursework and to become an integral part of the team is an investment. For them to then depart is a loss. Not good return on investment. Hopefully it is as simple as PT, and not something endemic in the program that they don't see until they get here. There seems to have been a large number of departures of late, but I don't have any facts or figures to compare and contrast (though I know we had a crap-ton of departures in the Eddie Payne era as well that derailed what looked to be a program almost back on track). The 3 in the backcourt we are getting next year look like solid gets, lets hope we can get them on campus and keep them! Go Beavers! It will be exciting to see which one stays.
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