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Post by Judge Smails on Jan 17, 2019 15:15:20 GMT -8
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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 17, 2019 15:50:58 GMT -8
Luton. Idaho to OSU. Right direction Wilson. OSU to Idaho. TBD.
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Post by ochobeavo on Jan 17, 2019 15:55:01 GMT -8
Luton. Idaho to OSU. Right direction Wilson. OSU to Idaho. TBD.
Luton will throw for way more touchdowns than Wilson, so I think we win the trade. |
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Jan 17, 2019 16:10:34 GMT -8
If I remember correctly, the coach who originally recruited Campbell to SDSU went to Fresno State, so that move doesn't come across as too big of a surprise. Couple that with him being closer to home and none of it really is a shock. TBD on Jack, I agree.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 17, 2019 16:56:49 GMT -8
It's funny how Wilson was somewhat disparaged on here when he transferred out, mainly for his below average D1 skill level... and as not a big loss. Yet WT was all that when Jack committed and subsequently stuck with OSU as a 4* 7 footer. Campbell not disparaged, but again it was all about Wayne sealing the deal over Fresno after the SDSU "de-committal". Both gone. Both a huge loss in terms of continuing a negative trends... either players that do not fit in or poor evaluation of talent and players leaving on a yearly basis. OSU is not a program that can simply keep losing players. Maybe Jack doesn't show up in big minutes for a couple years, but that is what this program needs... player development.
It is a trend to not get PT and then take off, but certain teams can take the departing of talent better than others. Idaho or not, Jack Wilson was a 4* talent on most boards and will be at least an huge body that will contribute. And, potentially develop into a big time player. He and Campbell are not the types OSU can easily just replace.
3-0 is a great short term solution, but losing players on a regular basis as you try to build a program is not a positive in any way.
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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 17, 2019 17:27:28 GMT -8
It's funny how Wilson was somewhat disparaged on here when he transferred out, mainly for his below average D1 skill level... and as not a big loss. Yet WT was all that when Jack committed and subsequently stuck with OSU as a 4* 7 footer. Campbell not disparaged, but again it was all about Wayne sealing the deal over Fresno after the SDSU "de-committal". Both gone. Both a huge loss in terms of continuing a negative trends... either players that do not fit in or poor evaluation of talent and players leaving on a yearly basis. OSU is not a program that can simply keep losing players. Maybe Jack doesn't show up in big minutes for a couple years, but that is what this program needs... player development. It is a trend to not get PT and then take off, but certain teams can take the departing of talent better than others. Idaho or not, Jack Wilson was a 4* talent on most boards and will be at least an huge body that will contribute. And, potentially develop into a big time player. He and Campbell are not the types OSU can easily just replace. 3-0 is a great short term solution, but losing players on a regular basis as you try to build a program is not a positive in any way. Even St. Ralph guessed wrong on recruits. Kid in my dorm freshman year at OSU (Wilson Hall) was a highly recruited guard from Bakersfield. Never saw the floor for OSU and transferred out at mid season. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jan 17, 2019 17:53:38 GMT -8
It's funny how Wilson was somewhat disparaged on here when he transferred out, mainly for his below average D1 skill level... and as not a big loss. Yet WT was all that when Jack committed and subsequently stuck with OSU as a 4* 7 footer. Campbell not disparaged, but again it was all about Wayne sealing the deal over Fresno after the SDSU "de-committal". Both gone. Both a huge loss in terms of continuing a negative trends... either players that do not fit in or poor evaluation of talent and players leaving on a yearly basis. OSU is not a program that can simply keep losing players. Maybe Jack doesn't show up in big minutes for a couple years, but that is what this program needs... player development. It is a trend to not get PT and then take off, but certain teams can take the departing of talent better than others. Idaho or not, Jack Wilson was a 4* talent on most boards and will be at least an huge body that will contribute. And, potentially develop into a big time player. He and Campbell are not the types OSU can easily just replace. 3-0 is a great short term solution, but losing players on a regular basis as you try to build a program is not a positive in any way. That loss of Wilson is going to sting down the line unless he is some kind of a bust in the attitude/teammate area, which should show at Idaho. Campbell might not be all that hard to replace, I’m not picturing him as a solution at point guard and there seems to be a good number of pretty good shooting guards out there. Losing two players out of one recruiting class so early is a concern though. From what we’ve seen so far, that hasn’t been shown to not be a problem with this staff, their 2nd recruiting class is basically gone. At least we’ve yet to have the kind of troubles we had with Robinson’s last two consecutive recruiting classes (not one of them were here for their 4th year), not yet anyways. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 17, 2019 17:54:01 GMT -8
It's funny how Wilson was somewhat disparaged on here when he transferred out, mainly for his below average D1 skill level... and as not a big loss. Yet WT was all that when Jack committed and subsequently stuck with OSU as a 4* 7 footer. Campbell not disparaged, but again it was all about Wayne sealing the deal over Fresno after the SDSU "de-committal". Both gone. Both a huge loss in terms of continuing a negative trends... either players that do not fit in or poor evaluation of talent and players leaving on a yearly basis. OSU is not a program that can simply keep losing players. Maybe Jack doesn't show up in big minutes for a couple years, but that is what this program needs... player development. It is a trend to not get PT and then take off, but certain teams can take the departing of talent better than others. Idaho or not, Jack Wilson was a 4* talent on most boards and will be at least an huge body that will contribute. And, potentially develop into a big time player. He and Campbell are not the types OSU can easily just replace. 3-0 is a great short term solution, but losing players on a regular basis as you try to build a program is not a positive in any way. Even St. Ralph guessed wrong on recruits. Kid in my dorm freshman year at OSU (Wilson Hall) was a highly recruited guard from Bakersfield. Never saw the floor for OSU and transferred out at mid season. That may be true... but, please don't compare Ralph's recruiting or anything else to WT. That is a fool's errand. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 17, 2019 18:04:16 GMT -8
Even St. Ralph guessed wrong on recruits. Kid in my dorm freshman year at OSU (Wilson Hall) was a highly recruited guard from Bakersfield. Never saw the floor for OSU and transferred out at mid season. That may be true... but, please don't compare Ralph's recruiting or anything else to WT. That is a fool's errand. "He and Campbell are not the types OSU can easily just replace." Maybe, maybe not. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 18:52:26 GMT -8
Even St. Ralph guessed wrong on recruits. Kid in my dorm freshman year at OSU (Wilson Hall) was a highly recruited guard from Bakersfield. Never saw the floor for OSU and transferred out at mid season. That may be true... but, please don't compare Ralph's recruiting or anything else to WT. That is a fool's errand. Johan reinalda was a Ralph recruit, right? |
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Post by blackandorange on Jan 17, 2019 18:53:52 GMT -8
Darrel Neal, he of Mater Dei fame, spent one year at OSU (81-82), the Spring term of which was in vaunted Poling Hall. Nice guy. Transferred after one year to Alabama. It happens all the time. I'm so tired of hearing about "negative trends' and stuff. IT...HAPPENS...ALL...THE...TIME.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 19:25:32 GMT -8
That may be true... but, please don't compare Ralph's recruiting or anything else to WT. That is a fool's errand. "He and Campbell are not the types OSU can easily just replace." Maybe, maybe not. Bold post. Are you sure? |
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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 17, 2019 19:43:31 GMT -8
"He and Campbell are not the types OSU can easily just replace." Maybe, maybe not. Bold post. Are you sure? Certain. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 17, 2019 22:35:19 GMT -8
Darrel Neal, he of Mater Dei fame, spent one year at OSU (81-82), the Spring term of which was in vaunted Poling Hall. Nice guy. Transferred after one year to Alabama. It happens all the time. I'm so tired of hearing about "negative trends' and stuff. IT...HAPPENS...ALL...THE...TIME. Negative trends... happen all the time. |
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Post by beaverstever on Jan 17, 2019 23:34:27 GMT -8
It won't be hard to replace their contributes to date. As has been pointed out, criticizing WT for recruiting a highly rated 7 footer. Losing him because he couldn't compete for playing time is as good of a reason for losing a player as any. Sorry, but Jack going to a 4-12 program who got blasted by a bad WSU team ... one with nobody over 6-9 to compete with for playing time down low doesn't strike me as the path of someone with something big to prove. And I've never been that subscribes a bunch into 'you can't teach height'. We of Liam Hughes history should know that's not enough. There are lots of 7 footers out there that don't belong in D1 basketball - heck, a local DII team I follow has two of them. sfstategators.com/roster.aspx?path=mbball&What will be tough to replace is two more roster slots with 1 less year in the program down the road. |
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