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Post by ochobeavo on Jan 17, 2019 8:57:09 GMT -8
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Post by bennyskid on Jan 17, 2019 9:15:44 GMT -8
My bet is 13-5 will be necessary for a bid. Massey says we have a 19% chance of getting to that level or higher. The Massey computer gives us a 35% chance of 12-6 or better.
Massey has us losing tonight, 75-72, with a 39% chance of pulling the upset.
So . . . we're right about where most of us thought we were at the start of the season. A decent, but not overwhelming chance at the tourney. And a decent chance - but not favored - to beat one of the conference's better teams on the road.
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Post by beaverbeliever71 on Jan 17, 2019 10:37:33 GMT -8
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 17, 2019 10:43:30 GMT -8
My bet is 13-5 will be necessary for a bid. Massey says we have a 19% chance of getting to that level or higher. The Massey computer gives us a 35% chance of 12-6 or better. Massey has us losing tonight, 75-72, with a 39% chance of pulling the upset. So . . . we're right about where most of us thought we were at the start of the season. A decent, but not overwhelming chance at the tourney. And a decent chance - but not favored - to beat one of the conference's better teams on the road. Reading thru the preseason... "most" "hoped" for a season of 10-8 and at least an NIT bid. There was no reason to think a 12-6 or better season would happen. Injuries and poor play in the Pac12 had yet to happen and I'm pretty sure no one thought the league would be this down. 3-0 is a great start, but it was almost necessary to garner attention in a league so widely disparaged. There are 15 games left and truthfully as "down" as some say the Pac12 is, it is more unpredictable than anything. ASU regains it's early team play and OSU plays to it's road "history" tonight could could be a throttling. It'll come down to road wins. Plain and simple. And, every team has a winning record at home so far. A team doesn't suddenly become road warriors, it is a process, and journey this team has just began. Tonight is an early step. I think people are a bit out over their skis on the start over a team with two starters/best players out, homes wins over two teams in total disarray. 15 league games left and I can see this team going anywhere from 10-5 to 6-9. Road Ws being the key, which would be a dramatic change over past seasons.
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Post by beaverbeliever71 on Jan 17, 2019 10:49:45 GMT -8
My bet is 13-5 will be necessary for a bid. Massey says we have a 19% chance of getting to that level or higher. The Massey computer gives us a 35% chance of 12-6 or better. Massey has us losing tonight, 75-72, with a 39% chance of pulling the upset. So . . . we're right about where most of us thought we were at the start of the season. A decent, but not overwhelming chance at the tourney. And a decent chance - but not favored - to beat one of the conference's better teams on the road. Reading thru the preseason... "most" "hoped" for a season of 10-8 and at least an NIT bid. There was no reason to think a 12-6 or better season would happen. Injuries and poor play in the Pac12 had yet to happen and I'm pretty sure no one thought the league would be this down. 3-0 is a great start, but it was almost necessary to garner attention in a league so widely disparaged. There are 15 games left and truthfully as "down" as some say the Pac12 is, it is more unpredictable than anything. ASU regains it's early team play and OSU plays to it's road "history" tonight could could be a throttling. It'll come down to road wins. Plain and simple. And, every team has a winning record at home so far. A team doesn't suddenly become road warriors, it is a process, and journey this team has just began. Tonight is an early step. I think people are a bit out over their skis on the start over a team with two starters/best players out, homes wins over two teams in total disarray. 15 league games left and I can see this team going anywhere from 10-5 to 6-9. Road Ws being the key, which would be a dramatic change over past seasons. Agree the road W's will be difference between going 9-9 or 12-6 or better
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 13:19:59 GMT -8
Reading thru the preseason... "most" "hoped" for a season of 10-8 and at least an NIT bid. There was no reason to think a 12-6 or better season would happen. Injuries and poor play in the Pac12 had yet to happen and I'm pretty sure no one thought the league would be this down. 3-0 is a great start, but it was almost necessary to garner attention in a league so widely disparaged. There are 15 games left and truthfully as "down" as some say the Pac12 is, it is more unpredictable than anything. ASU regains it's early team play and OSU plays to it's road "history" tonight could could be a throttling. It'll come down to road wins. Plain and simple. And, every team has a winning record at home so far. A team doesn't suddenly become road warriors, it is a process, and journey this team has just began. Tonight is an early step. I think people are a bit out over their skis on the start over a team with two starters/best players out, homes wins over two teams in total disarray. 15 league games left and I can see this team going anywhere from 10-5 to 6-9. Road Ws being the key, which would be a dramatic change over past seasons. Agree the road W's will be difference between going 9-9 or 12-6 or better Some day we will laugh about that Kent State loss.
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Jan 17, 2019 13:23:54 GMT -8
Agree the road W's will be difference between going 9-9 or 12-6 or better Some day we will laugh about that Kent State loss. If this team makes the tournament, I'll agree with you. If we end up as a 1 or 2 seed in the NIT I think we can all circle that game as the game that potentially kept us out of the dance. That was a tough three game stretch for this squad in mid-December.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 17, 2019 13:50:00 GMT -8
Some day we will laugh about that Kent State loss. If this team makes the tournament, I'll agree with you. If we end up as a 1 or 2 seed in the NIT I think we can all circle that game as the game that potentially kept us out of the dance. That was a tough three game stretch for this squad in mid-December. <iframe width="20.159999999999968" height="5.460000000000008" style="position: absolute; width: 20.159999999999968px; height: 5.460000000000008px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_79588018" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="20.159999999999968" height="5.460000000000008" style="position: absolute; width: 20.16px; height: 5.46px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 951px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_97541255" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="20.159999999999968" height="5.460000000000008" style="position: absolute; width: 20.16px; height: 5.46px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 211px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_46435335" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="20.159999999999968" height="5.460000000000008" style="position: absolute; width: 20.16px; height: 5.46px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 951px; top: 211px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_931484" scrolling="no"></iframe> StL roadie and ODU neutral might have been more important...
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Jan 17, 2019 14:05:27 GMT -8
If this team makes the tournament, I'll agree with you. If we end up as a 1 or 2 seed in the NIT I think we can all circle that game as the game that potentially kept us out of the dance. That was a tough three game stretch for this squad in mid-December. <iframe width="20.159999999999968" height="5.460000000000008" style="position: absolute; width: 20.159999999999968px; height: 5.460000000000008px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_79588018" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="20.159999999999968" height="5.460000000000008" style="position: absolute; width: 20.16px; height: 5.46px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 951px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_97541255" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="20.159999999999968" height="5.460000000000008" style="position: absolute; width: 20.16px; height: 5.46px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 211px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_46435335" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="20.159999999999968" height="5.460000000000008" style="position: absolute; width: 20.16px; height: 5.46px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 951px; top: 211px;" id="MoatPxIOPT1_931484" scrolling="no"></iframe> StL roadie and ODU neutral might have been more important... The ODU game at least allowed us to play in the winner's side of that Bahamas tournament. That might have been our most important win so far. Winning that StL game on the road would have been huge as well I agree. It would make me feel like a road win this week would be more a boost than a necessity for our tournament hopes. Maybe they can just get the sweep this week and erase any doubt
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Post by beaverstever on Jan 17, 2019 14:17:38 GMT -8
I agree on ODU. Had we lost that game, we would have played Kennesaw State, who is in the deep 300s. Mizzou loss probably does more than beating them. I also think it did us good to play a team like Mizzou that pushed us around. When we played VCU in the first round a few years back, the we were clearly not used to that level of physicality that is more commonly played out east.
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