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Post by newduke2 on Jan 4, 2019 4:47:58 GMT -8
I was curious to see how balanced the Pac-12 network televised/live streaming coverage was for the conference schedule of the presumed top 3 teams, Oregon, Stanford, and OSU. My first table shows which of the 3 teams have their game televised on each date and by what network. My second table summarizes the data by totaling the number of televised games by "type" for each team. I did not look at the tv schedules for the remaining 9 Pac-12 teams.
Turns out, it is hardly fair or equal. Oregon is going to get significantly more coverage than Oregon State, and even more than Stanford. Oregon will get 3 more games than OSU on the Pac-12 Oregon network, 4 more games on the universal Pac-12 network, and an additional live stream for a game not televised. The Pac-12 network is going out of its way to make sure all 18 of Oregon's and all 18 of Stanford's games will be on TV or specially live streamed if not televised. To heck with OSU, as 3 conference games will go without tv coverage or live streaming of any kind. Also, Oregon will get 2 conference games on ESPN2, while OSU and Stanford only get 1 each. I'm calling it B.S. If market size was the lone criteria for tv selection, then Stanford would have the broadest signature or reach for games televised, no?
Also of note, I found it interesting or odd that some games will be televised on the opponent's Pac-12 network, but not on the corresponding network of the other team. Apparently, the Pac-12 network thinks certain games are appealing to one team's fan base, but less so to the other...which could be true. In a few of these cases, they might even be applying a mini-blackout to the home team's fan base  (availability of live streaming notwithstanding)
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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 4, 2019 7:38:46 GMT -8
I was curious to see how balanced the Pac-12 network televised/live streaming coverage was for the conference schedule of the presumed top 3 teams, Oregon, Stanford, and OSU. My first table shows which of the 3 teams have their game televised on each date and by what network. My second table summarizes the data by totaling the number of televised games by "type" for each team. I did not look at the tv schedules for the remaining 9 Pac-12 teams.
Turns out, it is hardly fair or equal. Oregon is going to get significantly more coverage than Oregon State, and even more than Stanford. Oregon will get 3 more games than OSU on the Pac-12 Oregon network, 4 more games on the universal Pac-12 network, and an additional live stream for a game not televised. The Pac-12 network is going out of its way to make sure all 18 of Oregon's and all 18 of Stanford's games will be on TV or specially live streamed if not televised. To heck with OSU, as 3 conference games will go without tv coverage or live streaming of any kind. Also, Oregon will get 2 conference games on ESPN2, while OSU and Stanford only get 1 each. I'm calling it B.S. If market size was the lone criteria for tv selection, then Stanford would have the broadest signature or reach for games televised, no?
Also of note, I found it interesting or odd that some games will be televised on the opponent's Pac-12 network, but not on the corresponding network of the other team. Apparently, the Pac-12 network thinks certain games are appealing to one team's fan base, but less so to the other...which could be true. In a few of these cases, they might even be applying a mini-blackout to the home team's fan base (availability of live streaming notwithstanding)
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. Not surprised at all. Swoosh is the defending conference regular season and tournament champion and returns the Conf POY, also a strong candidate for NPOY. Stanford is still the Conference’s signature WBB program and happens to be located close to the Conference’s central production studios in downtown SF. |
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Post by bvrbooster on Jan 4, 2019 9:44:22 GMT -8
The PAC 12 boasts 2 teams who have finished in the top 25 each of the last 5 years; Oregon is not one of them. The PAC 12 has 1 team who has finished in the top 10 each of the last 3 years (5 teams total have done that); neither Oregon nor Stanford is that team. The PAC 12 has 1 fan base that has demonstrated exceptional support for its team by leading the conference in home attendance 4 years in a row, and that fan base is not to be found in either Eugene or Palo Alto.
In summary, the premier program in the conference over the last 4 years is Oregon State, not Stanford or Oregon, and one should blame the league office for an apparent failure to properly showcase that program.
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Post by Snafu on Jan 4, 2019 9:47:26 GMT -8
Next thing you know, someone will start measuring newspaper columns...
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Post by newduke2 on Jan 4, 2019 9:55:44 GMT -8
Next thing you know, someone will start measuring newspaper columns... Amount of TV exposure (from sports) is known to influence a lot things related to recruiting, revenues, donations, and even increases in student applications to a university. Newspaper articles, probably not so much. |
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Post by rmancarl on Jan 4, 2019 11:12:37 GMT -8
LOL, Snafu, I've seen that happen many times. Actually newduke2, thanks for posting that. I had noticed OSU was not on the schedule for some games, and I was curious. There is no doubt that news/TV coverage does help in recruiting.
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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 4, 2019 13:40:30 GMT -8
The PAC 12 boasts 2 teams who have finished in the top 25 each of the last 5 years; Oregon is not one of them. The PAC 12 has 1 team who has finished in the top 10 each of the last 3 years (5 teams total have done that); neither Oregon nor Stanford is that team. The PAC 12 has 1 fan base that has demonstrated exceptional support for its team by leading the conference in home attendance 4 years in a row, and that fan base is not to be found in either Eugene or Palo Alto. In summary, the premier program in the conference over the last 4 years is Oregon State, not Stanford or Oregon, and one should blame the league office for an apparent failure to properly showcase that program. Cue Rodney Dangerfield... |
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Post by beaveragain on Jan 4, 2019 13:53:04 GMT -8
Won't be much of an entrance, he dead.
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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 4, 2019 14:57:49 GMT -8
Won't be much of an entrance, he dead. ...no respect at all. |
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Post by willtalk on Jan 4, 2019 15:10:25 GMT -8
Granted you have factored in quite a few variables in respect to viewership drawing power. That is except for one. The top individual name in the Conference. Sabrina Ionescu. She is the most recognizable player in the conference if not the Nation.
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Post by bennyskid on Jan 4, 2019 16:09:22 GMT -8
How 'bout you save the complaints until AFTER the games and the ratings are published? If at the end of the season the OSU games get more eyeballs than the UO games, then you can beef about it. Until then, you sound like a cranky old man pissing because the newspaper dropped Alley Oop and replaced it with Funky Winkerbean.
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Post by newduke2 on Jan 4, 2019 16:27:15 GMT -8
How 'bout you save the complaints until AFTER the games and the ratings are published? If at the end of the season the OSU games get more eyeballs than the UO games, then you can beef about it. Until then, you sound like a cranky old man pissing because the newspaper dropped Alley Oop and replaced it with Funky Winkerbean. yes, I am a cranky old man and I'm not ashamed to be an OSU homer even if it taints my views a bit. |
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Post by fishwrapper on Jan 4, 2019 16:38:45 GMT -8
If you look at the schedule (https://osubeavers.com/schedule.aspx?path=wbball) you will note that the January 6, 18, and February 3 OSU home games will all be live streamed. Even if there is no Pac-12 television production in the house, OSU will be producing live coverage to stream for the fans.
FWIW, the live stream can be viewed by fans far beyond the meager Pac-12 Network TV footprint, so one can argue those dates will have greater potential exposure for our players and reach recruits otherwise unreached by Pac-12 TV.
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Post by fishwrapper on Jan 4, 2019 16:39:26 GMT -8
I miss Alley Oop, too.
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(availability of live streaming notwithstanding)
