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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 29, 2018 13:59:03 GMT -8
Defection... Jack was unknown to me from friends. They have another player that's been less than happy from game 5 or so. So you’re saying you don’t know Jack? I’m glad your friends know that. That’s what I thought. Ahhh... perfect timing. Your well known reading comprehension is a welcome gag here. And, the poor attempts at humor continue to mirror your moniker. Love it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 14:01:02 GMT -8
Defection... Jack was unknown to me from friends. They have another player that's been less than happy from game 5 or so. So you’re saying you don’t know Jack? I’m glad your friends know that. That’s what I thought. gotta admit. Very well played.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 14:04:43 GMT -8
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Post by jbjam on Dec 29, 2018 14:27:51 GMT -8
The Tinkle apologist are out in full force. Let's disparage the player. "He sucked anyways." I feel like I'm on a duck board, and a recruit chose another school. Grow up.
Regardless of the reason, this is a failure by the coaching staff.
Wish the kid well.
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Post by bill82 on Dec 29, 2018 14:45:55 GMT -8
If he was such a project then why was he recruited in the first place? Because you can’t teach height. And since our coaches can’t teach why not take a flyer?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 14:53:21 GMT -8
Because you can’t teach height. And since our coaches can’t teach why not take a flyer? Because michael jordans don't grow on trees. Duh.
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Post by jenbeav on Dec 29, 2018 15:53:44 GMT -8
Wilson was slow and un athletic. He was gonna need to work super hard to be valuable in couple years like Big G. He hardley could move. He saw Kelly and Washington and knew it would be awhile before saw significant playing time. He wants to play now no harm go lower division where big body is problem. Did you ever watch practice. The kid is far better than you state. The development of bigs here is terrible. KK has the same game he's had, and he rarely sees the ball unless it's off a rebound. Another "great/good" recruit of WT's bolts... grades? PT? Team chemistry? Development? Poor recruiting? Come on its becoming a yearly event and never WTs responsibility according to his apologists. Practice is practice we probably shoot 80 percent from the field also in practice. Not saying he wouldnt be great player but his limited mins in games was very slow. Not a whole lot of post moves. Kelly right now is better but if Wilson stuck around possibly could be better. Washington Probably be better then both. Definitely agree we dont post up bigs as much but see that alot in college these days. Guys afraid to do entry passes into post. Even dang bol bol hangs around perimeter.
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Post by ochobeavo on Dec 29, 2018 17:37:04 GMT -8
If he was such a project then why was he recruited in the first place? For whatever it’s wortb, he was ESPN’s 15th ranked center and a 4 Star recruit. Also missed most (if not all?) of his senior year with a back injury...
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Post by beaverstever on Dec 29, 2018 20:21:33 GMT -8
Ok, this is really frustrating. Having watched this kid in HS, I was not a fan of him going to OSU. I tempered my negativity on discussing him here, but even the Heide upside was very orange-tinted: bennyshouse.com/thread/8016/2018-classWhat I think happened is that the kid was an absolute physical specimen as a HS sophomore, and programs got excited about his potential. However, watching him play, he was unable to dominate at the HS level, and was even often a liability on defense because his feet were in cement. He was also unable to consistently take advantage of his size on offense despite having 4-8" on any defender. Bottom line, he was a guy that looked intimidating in warmups, and after that he mostly just took up space. The assumption was that he'd grow into his body and pick up more speed after growing into his body. But quickness is a lot like size - it can't be taught. Coordination can be taught, but slow-twitch muscles do not change - and coordination wasn't an issue even as a soph - he was simply just slow. Because he committed early, maybe the staff felt they couldn't pull the offer, or maybe they thought he could still play a role against specific players. I did not see him in practice at OSU, seems some here think he could developed into a significant contributor. I remain highly skeptical, and we'll eventually find out by wherever he lands. At the end of the day, it's another bad recruiting miss by this coaching staff. Fortunately for my emotional investment, I had already planned on this one.
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Post by gnawitall on Dec 29, 2018 20:57:14 GMT -8
Ok, this is really frustrating. Having watched this kid in HS, I was not a fan of him going to OSU. I tempered my negativity on discussing him here, but even the Heide upside was very orange-tinted: bennyshouse.com/thread/8016/2018-classWhat I think happened is that the kid was an absolute physical specimen as a HS sophomore, and programs got excited about his potential. However, watching him play, he was unable to dominate at the HS level, and was even often a liability on defense because his feet were in cement. He was also unable to consistently take advantage of his size on offense despite having 4-8" on any defender. Bottom line, he was a guy that looked intimidating in warmups, and after that he mostly just took up space. The assumption was that he'd grow into his body and pick up more speed after growing into his body. But quickness is a lot like size - it can't be taught. Coordination can be taught, but slow-twitch muscles do not change - and coordination wasn't an issue even as a soph - he was simply just slow. Because he committed early, maybe the staff felt they couldn't pull the offer, or maybe they thought he could still play a role against specific players. I did not see him in practice at OSU, seems some here think he could developed into a significant contributor. I remain highly skeptical, and we'll eventually find out by wherever he lands. At the end of the day, it's another bad recruiting miss by this coaching staff. Fortunately for my emotional investment, I had already planned on this one. Mamula?
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Post by beaver94 on Dec 29, 2018 21:03:05 GMT -8
Ok, this is really frustrating. Having watched this kid in HS, I was not a fan of him going to OSU. I tempered my negativity on discussing him here, but even the Heide upside was very orange-tinted: bennyshouse.com/thread/8016/2018-classWhat I think happened is that the kid was an absolute physical specimen as a HS sophomore, and programs got excited about his potential. However, watching him play, he was unable to dominate at the HS level, and was even often a liability on defense because his feet were in cement. He was also unable to consistently take advantage of his size on offense despite having 4-8" on any defender. Bottom line, he was a guy that looked intimidating in warmups, and after that he mostly just took up space. The assumption was that he'd grow into his body and pick up more speed after growing into his body. But quickness is a lot like size - it can't be taught. Coordination can be taught, but slow-twitch muscles do not change - and coordination wasn't an issue even as a soph - he was simply just slow. Because he committed early, maybe the staff felt they couldn't pull the offer, or maybe they thought he could still play a role against specific players. I did not see him in practice at OSU, seems some here think he could developed into a significant contributor. I remain highly skeptical, and we'll eventually find out by wherever he lands. At the end of the day, it's another bad recruiting miss by this coaching staff. Fortunately for my emotional investment, I had already planned on this one. Those were my impressions of him as well. Although once he was a Beaver I was looking forward to seeing how much he could improve. I never like seeing players leave, regardless of the reasons. One of the things I enjoy most about college sports, especially OSU, is watching the players develop as athletes and people over the short time they are part of the team.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Dec 29, 2018 21:51:38 GMT -8
Because you can’t teach height. And since our coaches can’t teach why not take a flyer? Ah yes, Drew Eubanks reached the NBA all on his own. Or at the private lessons he took two months of the year. The staff that he spent 9-10 months a year with did nothing to help develop him. He certainly was no Angus Brandt, that's for sure. Or Kylor Kelly. Another guy who has improved leaps and bounds since coming here this summer, all on his own. Or through those private lessons he takes at G3 Fitness.
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Post by osubeaver2018 on Dec 29, 2018 23:29:16 GMT -8
And since our coaches can’t teach why not take a flyer? Ah yes, Drew Eubanks reached the NBA all on his own. Or at the private lessons he took two months of the year. The staff that he spent 9-10 months a year with did nothing to help develop him. He certainly was no Angus Brandt, that's for sure. Or Kylor Kelly. Another guy who has improved leaps and bounds since coming here this summer, all on his own. Or through those private lessons he takes at G3 Fitness. Seven-11 is saying Hollins will leave. Hollins is actually a guy I was worried about leaving last year and his body language this year at times is that of a guy who is drastically short on confidence. I hope I am wrong, because I really like Al's athleticism and think he is a mismatch for anyone guarding him if he can get involved. He's big enough that most guards would struggle with him down low, and he's quick and athletic enough that he can get by most bigs.
Is this something anyone has some inside information on that is fueling that speculation? Or is it just that, speculation? This isn't the first time I've seen or heard that.
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 29, 2018 23:40:49 GMT -8
And since our coaches can’t teach why not take a flyer? Ah yes, Drew Eubanks reached the NBA all on his own. Or at the private lessons he took two months of the year. The staff that he spent 9-10 months a year with did nothing to help develop him. He certainly was no Angus Brandt, that's for sure. Or Kylor Kelly. Another guy who has improved leaps and bounds since coming here this summer, all on his own. Or through those private lessons he takes at G3 Fitness. Seven-11 is saying Hollins will leave. Yeah... you can really put 2 and 2 and get 6... your BS is so lame. BUT, some here, mainly you enjoy it. KK has the same game he had at JC. But, I'd bet you never watched him in HS or in his JC stint?! In fact he had more of a game as he actually got to use post moves and his mid-range game as part fo the offense. Besides shooting 26%, sleeping thru the 2nd half getting outscored the most negative thing was the Rupp post-game interview. If you heard the post game, the staff sees KK as a good screener in the pic/roll game as most teams will not switch off the 5 and thus leave our other guys open to create. That and an offensive rebounder. MP basically asked point blank if we were going to see more of KK's game... the answer was basically "no". As for Hollins leaving, it amazes me even in poor sarcasm you toss out player's names in that type of scenario. You seem like an intelligent guy most of the time. Then again... Drew, who never even developed a short face-up game in his 3 years, is in the NBA because of Drew and the extra work he put in outside of OSU, not solely WT. Drew had issues, but basically as KK, he was an after thought and got a lot of "his" outside the offense (if you can call what we run that). Just as the Tres has made more gains this off-season working with outside assistance and his own gym rat mentality.
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 29, 2018 23:44:13 GMT -8
Ah yes, Drew Eubanks reached the NBA all on his own. Or at the private lessons he took two months of the year. The staff that he spent 9-10 months a year with did nothing to help develop him. He certainly was no Angus Brandt, that's for sure. Or Kylor Kelly. Another guy who has improved leaps and bounds since coming here this summer, all on his own. Or through those private lessons he takes at G3 Fitness. Seven-11 is saying Hollins will leave. Hollins is actually a guy I was worried about leaving last year and his body language this year at times is that of a guy who is drastically short on confidence. I hope I am wrong, because I really like Al's athleticism and think he is a mismatch for anyone guarding him if he can get involved. He's big enough that most guards would struggle with him down low, and he's quick and athletic enough that he can get by most bigs.
Is this something anyone has some inside information on that is fueling that speculation? Or is it just that, speculation? This isn't the first time I've seen or heard that.
No... it's just a immature/irresponsible poster tossing out a player's name to make a dig at me. Most posters do not toss out player's names about such unfounded/made up things. If he were to leave, like Jack Wilson, then discuss it.
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