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Post by eugenedave on Mar 7, 2016 23:16:01 GMT -8
Didn't the Zags do that to us at Gill last year, and literally kill us with it?
It takes a very athletic team to pull it off for 40 minutes, and UCLA waited too long to try it last night. But, if they had come out with it at the start, it could easily have been a very different first half for us and them.
Our great D keeps us in games, when we make 20+ turnovers, but that can't be relied on when we play the top teams in the nation.
Any suggestions on how to deal with this?
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Post by gnawitall on Mar 8, 2016 6:18:09 GMT -8
Didn't the Zags do that to us at Gill last year, and literally kill us with it? It takes a very athletic team to pull it off for 40 minutes, and UCLA waited too long to try it last night. But, if they had come out with it at the start, it could easily have been a very different first half for us and them. Our great D keeps us in games, when we make 20+ turnovers, but that can't be relied on when we play the top teams in the nation. Any suggestions on how to deal with this? The men and the women both have to do a better job of inbounding the ball away from the corners. That, to me, is the first mistake they both make. The other important thing is to not panic. A couple 10 sec calls early in the game wouldn't hurt just to see how you want to attack what they are doing. Sounds crazy but in a 40 min game it's about making adjustments. And lastly, getting the ball to the middle of the court is the press' kryptonite.
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billsaab
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Post by billsaab on Mar 8, 2016 6:27:28 GMT -8
Once the Press is Broken get to the rim . Than we make a lay up or free throws. If they pay they will stop pressing.
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Post by TheGlove on Mar 8, 2016 7:37:12 GMT -8
Huge pucker factor for me when watching them play. It seems that we don't handle full court pressure as well as we could/should.
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 8, 2016 8:27:11 GMT -8
One of the issues of the press break I see is that we are stationary. In any offensive mode you need to be "hard to guard" and pose a threat. If you are stationary you are easy to find/guard, you allow the defense to plug passing lanes as they are also set and limited with stationary players.
In breaking presses we tend to be 'lazy' and not do essential things that we typically are very good at in the half court: a) it is essential NOT to throw it in to the "near" corner if at all possible, especially if the have a defender on the inbounder. You want the trapper to have to travel a distance to the ball. If the passer is mobile after made basket they need to set up their passing lane.
b) have "pre-pass" movement... the pressing team should have to "find" you, not be able to predict where you'll be as some teams ALWAYS run the the ft line for the same OB play.
c) off the ball cutters that continue thru the press and "fillers" to replace them... typically the best way to defeat the initial double is the one player left unguarded, the inbounder. As soon as the inbound pass is made the inbounder should cut to create a passing lane before the double is applied. Some team have that done with the off side player cutting and inbounder as a weak side safety. There are many variations of cutters and fillers, but the key, like versus any defense is movement of players and ball. It's why I like a great ball handler as the inbounder... get to the ball quickly, get it in before the D sets up and get it back if side break not there and attack up the middle
Whatever system and lingo used... you have to have players that understand crisp/decisive movement... cut/fill/rotate of players that create passing lanes while moving the defense. We tend to be very stationary and then try to dribble thru a press/doubles. It's the same thing that gets us in trouble on offense at times... we stop being active and are easy to guard.
Ok... it really "puckers" me too. We have absolutely looked terrible at times versus the press, and I agree that UCLA did us a huge favor not pressing us earlier. Maybe it was the 3 games/3 days?!
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Post by hof99 on Mar 8, 2016 12:34:46 GMT -8
I think the most effective way is, as said earlier go right up the middle of the court. The traps Occur when you get isolated on the sidelines or In the corners. The other thing is that you never stop dribbling, so you Need your best ball handlers to get the ball over Half court. I also see them trying to throw cross court passes after being trapped, instead, they should bring some help and bail out whoever is in trouble. I think our girls were getting a lot of slashing hand contact from the Bruins, and there were very few calls made - so the girls 'forced' the action, by trying to create something that wasn't there. Maybe Sydney or Jamie need to run the ball up the court, as they are very sure ball handlers.
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Post by damnstraight on Mar 8, 2016 13:21:40 GMT -8
Jamie has to stop dribbling in to " trouble" as well. The M. O. that other teams are using is to try to tie her up...as soon as she gets close with a double team..and too many " jump balls" are getting called when she gets tied up..and not enough fouls. I hope she can recognize this and avoid these situations.
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