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Post by beavaristotle on Nov 7, 2018 20:28:08 GMT -8
stop me if you have seen this before : 1) unrecognizable offense sets 2) terrible ball movement 3) over dribbling 4) taking the ball to bad spots on the floor 5) unwillingness or inability to enter the ball to a big that is open. 6) forced shots at the end of the shot clock 7) not setting a proper screen or using a screen 8) half ass defensive effort I hope it was just first game jitters, but I saw this act all last year. hopefully there will be much improvement on Saturday. right now they look like a bottom feeder in the Pac 12 and possible coaching change. this is on the head coach. I watch other teams run offense, set screens, move the ball in and out (the way to break down a defense) and get good shots. I hope I am wrong and in march we are talking about an NCAA bid. |
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Post by 411500 on Nov 7, 2018 22:12:05 GMT -8
I watched the replay today and it was even worse than the original.
Don't know what to say. Hi IQ street ball - that's all it was....
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Post by messi on Nov 8, 2018 12:20:08 GMT -8
stop me if you have seen this before : 1) unrecognizable offense sets 2) terrible ball movement 3) over dribbling 4) taking the ball to bad spots on the floor 5) unwillingness or inability to enter the ball to a big that is open. 6) forced shots at the end of the shot clock 7) not setting a proper screen or using a screen 8) half ass defensive effort I hope it was just first game jitters, but I saw this act all last year. hopefully there will be much improvement on Saturday. right now they look like a bottom feeder in the Pac 12 and possible coaching change. this is on the head coach. I watch other teams run offense, set screens, move the ball in and out (the way to break down a defense) and get good shots. I hope I am wrong and in march we are talking about an NCAA bid. On your first statement, perhaps they're trying to make the sets so unrecognizable, that it'll confuse the other team. Other than that, yeah. |
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Post by sagebrush on Nov 9, 2018 5:44:22 GMT -8
Working on establishing an over/under number of Pac-12 wins for our local betting pool. I am leaning toward 5.5. Any thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2018 6:13:52 GMT -8
Working on establishing an over/under number of Pac-12 wins for our local betting pool. I am leaning toward 5.5. Any thoughts? i would take the over on that just counting the number of home wins Beavs had last year (6). And they won 2 out of 3 their last 3 away from Corvallis to close out the year. |
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Post by thetruebeav on Nov 9, 2018 7:24:36 GMT -8
stop me if you have seen this before : 1) unrecognizable offense sets 2) terrible ball movement 3) over dribbling 4) taking the ball to bad spots on the floor 5) unwillingness or inability to enter the ball to a big that is open. 6) forced shots at the end of the shot clock 7) not setting a proper screen or using a screen 8) half ass defensive effort I hope it was just first game jitters, but I saw this act all last year. hopefully there will be much improvement on Saturday. right now they look like a bottom feeder in the Pac 12 and possible coaching change. this is on the head coach. I watch other teams run offense, set screens, move the ball in and out (the way to break down a defense) and get good shots. I hope I am wrong and in march we are talking about an NCAA bid. And 1-0. Good god peeeps can we let the season play out past the 1st game b4 we body bag a season. I've coached at a very competitive level (different sport) and one of the hardest games of the season is the opener. Let's all relax and actually see how the season plays out. |
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Post by Judge Smails on Nov 9, 2018 9:56:58 GMT -8
stop me if you have seen this before : 1) unrecognizable offense sets 2) terrible ball movement 3) over dribbling 4) taking the ball to bad spots on the floor 5) unwillingness or inability to enter the ball to a big that is open. 6) forced shots at the end of the shot clock 7) not setting a proper screen or using a screen 8) half ass defensive effort I hope it was just first game jitters, but I saw this act all last year. hopefully there will be much improvement on Saturday. right now they look like a bottom feeder in the Pac 12 and possible coaching change. this is on the head coach. I watch other teams run offense, set screens, move the ball in and out (the way to break down a defense) and get good shots. I hope I am wrong and in march we are talking about an NCAA bid. And 1-0. Good god peeeps can we let the season play out past the 1st game b4 we body bag a season. I've coached at a very competitive level (different sport) and one of the hardest games of the season is the opener. Let's all relax and actually see how the season plays out. Oh, how I long for the day when our football team can win by 13 and everyone can bitch about it not looking pretty. |
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Post by mbabeav on Nov 9, 2018 10:07:47 GMT -8
stop me if you have seen this before : 1) unrecognizable offense sets 2) terrible ball movement 3) over dribbling 4) taking the ball to bad spots on the floor 5) unwillingness or inability to enter the ball to a big that is open. 6) forced shots at the end of the shot clock 7) not setting a proper screen or using a screen 8) half ass defensive effort I hope it was just first game jitters, but I saw this act all last year. hopefully there will be much improvement on Saturday. right now they look like a bottom feeder in the Pac 12 and possible coaching change. this is on the head coach. I watch other teams run offense, set screens, move the ball in and out (the way to break down a defense) and get good shots. I hope I am wrong and in march we are talking about an NCAA bid. And 1-0. Good god peeeps can we let the season play out past the 1st game b4 we body bag a season. I've coached at a very competitive level (different sport) and one of the hardest games of the season is the opener. Let's all relax and actually see how the season plays out. When did we go from youthful optomistic alumni to a bunch of old curmudgeons? |
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 9, 2018 10:12:29 GMT -8
stop me if you have seen this before : 1) unrecognizable offense sets 2) terrible ball movement 3) over dribbling 4) taking the ball to bad spots on the floor 5) unwillingness or inability to enter the ball to a big that is open. 6) forced shots at the end of the shot clock 7) not setting a proper screen or using a screen 8) half ass defensive effort I hope it was just first game jitters, but I saw this act all last year. hopefully there will be much improvement on Saturday. right now they look like a bottom feeder in the Pac 12 and possible coaching change. this is on the head coach. I watch other teams run offense, set screens, move the ball in and out (the way to break down a defense) and get good shots. I hope I am wrong and in march we are talking about an NCAA bid. And 1-0. Good god peeeps can we let the season play out past the 1st game b4 we body bag a season. I've coached at a very competitive level (different sport) and one of the hardest games of the season is the opener. Let's all relax and actually see how the season plays out. Hmmm... stating factual info and personal observations... have not seen ONE post body bagging a season. ZERO. Meaning your post is really the only overreaction... 1-0 >>> 16-16 1-0 >>> 5-27 Since GPII left 1-0 means??? The style of play is, so far (and is what these posts are based on), VERY similar to recent history where 1-0 meant diddly squat. Meaningless preseason "outcomes" mean zilch if the level of play can't win Pac12 games. The season will play out, but until the play on the court resembles a "team" that can win some Pac12 games of meaning (last season had ONE road win... league or nonleague... vs the worst team in the Pac12... oh, and 7-39 in four years of roadies) observations on the topic will continue to proliferate. PS- it's kind of part of what message boards are all about... |
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Post by green85 on Nov 9, 2018 10:14:20 GMT -8
stop me if you have seen this before : 1) unrecognizable offense sets 2) terrible ball movement 3) over dribbling 4) taking the ball to bad spots on the floor 5) unwillingness or inability to enter the ball to a big that is open. 6) forced shots at the end of the shot clock 7) not setting a proper screen or using a screen 8) half ass defensive effort I hope it was just first game jitters, but I saw this act all last year. hopefully there will be much improvement on Saturday. right now they look like a bottom feeder in the Pac 12 and possible coaching change. this is on the head coach. I watch other teams run offense, set screens, move the ball in and out (the way to break down a defense) and get good shots. I hope I am wrong and in march we are talking about an NCAA bid. And 1-0. Good god peeeps can we let the season play out past the 1st game b4 we body bag a season. I've coached at a very competitive level (different sport) and one of the hardest games of the season is the opener. Let's all relax and actually see how the season plays out. +1 First game is the worst game to set season expectations - good or bad. Seems to me many folks outside of Corvallis are seeing an experienced team that is predicted to compete for a bunch of wins in the Pac12. Yes, every team finds things to work on in non-conference games. Things can look terrible now, and be fixed by the first game in the Pac12 season in December. |
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Post by green85 on Nov 9, 2018 10:20:00 GMT -8
And 1-0. Good god peeeps can we let the season play out past the 1st game b4 we body bag a season. I've coached at a very competitive level (different sport) and one of the hardest games of the season is the opener. Let's all relax and actually see how the season plays out. Hmmm... stating factual info and personal observations... have not seen ONE post body bagging a season. ZERO. Meaning your post is really the only overreaction... 1-0 >>> 16-16 1-0 >>> 5-27 Since GPII left 1-0 means??? The style of play is, so far (and is what these posts are based on), VERY similar to recent history where 1-0 meant diddly squat. Meaningless preseason "outcomes" mean zilch if the level of play can't win Pac12 games. The season will play out, but until the play on the court resembles a "team" that can win some Pac12 games of meaning observations on the topic will continue to proliferate. PS- it's kind of part of what message boards are all about... "Meaningless preseason "outcomes" mean zilch if the level of play can't win Pac12 games." And assessing the level of play based upon the first game of the season is almost as meaningless. Take it from an Oregon fan that has watched Altman teams struggle in non-conference - the first few games can look like a bunch 3rd graders running around trying to figure out where they should be, rather than playing basketball. I was at the Ducks exhibition game (Western Oregon) and first non-conference (Portland State) - what I saw was a team that IS NOT ready to win Pac12 games. Does that mean I think Oregon will finish conference play at 5 - 13? No. It means that the players and coaches are working on things now to play better when conference competition starts in late December. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 9, 2018 10:30:42 GMT -8
Hmmm... stating factual info and personal observations... have not seen ONE post body bagging a season. ZERO. Meaning your post is really the only overreaction... 1-0 >>> 16-16 1-0 >>> 5-27 Since GPII left 1-0 means??? The style of play is, so far (and is what these posts are based on), VERY similar to recent history where 1-0 meant diddly squat. Meaningless preseason "outcomes" mean zilch if the level of play can't win Pac12 games. The season will play out, but until the play on the court resembles a "team" that can win some Pac12 games of meaning observations on the topic will continue to proliferate. PS- it's kind of part of what message boards are all about... "Meaningless preseason "outcomes" mean zilch if the level of play can't win Pac12 games." And assessing the level of play based upon the first game of the season is almost as meaningless. Take it from an Oregon fan that has watched Altman teams struggle in non-conference - the first few games can look like a bunch 3rd graders running around trying to figure out where they should be, rather than playing basketball. I was at the Ducks exhibition game (Western Oregon) and first non-conference (Portland State) - what I saw was a team that IS NOT ready to win Pac12 games. Does that mean I think Oregon will finish conference play at 5 - 13? No. It means that the players and coaches are working on things now to play better when conference competition starts in late December. LMAO... no what it means is you lose all semblance of meaningful posting when you compare OSU hoops to Oregon hoops/observations. As much of a slime bucket DA is (another topic that my buddies from Omaha know in detail) observations of said teams is completely irrelevant... talent level, style of play, recent history. There were no "predictions" that game 1 was how the rest of the season would play out. There are comments how how it is similar to the other unsuccessful attempts to play team ball and be successful in the Pac12... unless topping out at 9-9 is all people want. The exhibition and game 1 shows the same trends as the last two seasons (injuries or not, the same type of play persisted)... 21-43/8-28/1-22 on the road. Trended up last season without key injury, but same disjointed play with no on-court leadership. Again... EVERY game is part of a season and shows trends. Point being, no one is saying OSU is doomed. Just that the level of play is the same even though the excuse of youth is gone, and it must improve... dramatically to be a Pac12 quality team. |
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Post by green85 on Nov 9, 2018 12:59:25 GMT -8
"Meaningless preseason "outcomes" mean zilch if the level of play can't win Pac12 games." And assessing the level of play based upon the first game of the season is almost as meaningless. Take it from an Oregon fan that has watched Altman teams struggle in non-conference - the first few games can look like a bunch 3rd graders running around trying to figure out where they should be, rather than playing basketball. I was at the Ducks exhibition game (Western Oregon) and first non-conference (Portland State) - what I saw was a team that IS NOT ready to win Pac12 games. Does that mean I think Oregon will finish conference play at 5 - 13? No. It means that the players and coaches are working on things now to play better when conference competition starts in late December. LMAO... no what it means is you lose all semblance of meaningful posting when you compare OSU hoops to Oregon hoops/observations. As much of a slime bucket DA is (another topic that my buddies from Omaha know in detail) observations of said teams is completely irrelevant... talent level, style of play, recent history. There were no "predictions" that game 1 was how the rest of the season would play out. There are comments how how it is similar to the other unsuccessful attempts to play team ball and be successful in the Pac12... unless topping out at 9-9 is all people want. The exhibition and game 1 shows the same trends as the last two seasons (injuries or not, the same type of play persisted)... 21-43/8-28/1-22 on the road. Trended up last season without key injury, but same disjointed play with no on-court leadership. Again... EVERY game is part of a season and shows trends. Point being, no one is saying OSU is doomed. Just that the level of play is the same even though the excuse of youth is gone, and it must improve... dramatically to be a Pac12 quality team. I was not comparing the teams. I was discussing the concept of evaluating a team early in non-conference. I guess I would not lay the ground work for "I told you so" regarding a trend or tendency for the new season ... just based upon my own experience with assessing basketball teams this early. Enjoy |
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Post by TheGlove on Nov 9, 2018 14:55:46 GMT -8
And 1-0. Good god peeeps can we let the season play out past the 1st game b4 we body bag a season. I've coached at a very competitive level (different sport) and one of the hardest games of the season is the opener. Let's all relax and actually see how the season plays out. When did we go from youthful optomistic alumni to a bunch of old curmudgeons? About 15 years ago. |
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Post by jdogge on Nov 9, 2018 15:05:19 GMT -8
I watched the replay today and it was even worse than the original. Don't know what to say. Hi IQ street ball - that's all it was.... The sky is falling! The sky is falling!! The sky is falling!!! |
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