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Post by Werebeaver on Oct 16, 2018 19:52:18 GMT -8
Is thickhead writing about thickhead in the third person?  Like his posts or not, thickhead does add some color and controversy to this forum. A close-up (but a litle blurry) photo is below of the hand bling that was bestowed to the returning players last night. Thank you BHF. You are a man among men! I would assume that those are real diamonds in those rings, and I also hope that they sent one to Taylor Kalmer, too. She played a role, she played in the final game, and she worked hard. She deserves one. I’m sure Marie and Taylor will both get their rings despite not being able to attend. |
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Oct 16, 2018 20:44:39 GMT -8
That is my reaction as well 411500 - a coach who knows what it takes to win a National Championship is raising his expectations of the team, and challenging and driving the team to those levels.....a team that has plenty of internal motivation as well. SR has always been circumspect in his goals/expectations. I think he sees enough talent at every position to be in the hunt for a Final 4 berth. He noted in an interview that he had won it all with freshman, and some of these current freshman were upper echelon enough to draw UConn-level interest. I sense a couple very special seasons coming on! I would not be surprised if some very high level recruits in our pipeline pick up on the vibe as well. Go Beavers! |
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 16, 2018 22:07:42 GMT -8
Ok... give it... I've taken the heat before 🍻
But... I think there are some fans getting way, way over hyped on a team who lost its best player, has no proven inside game, and is not picked to win its conference.
Not sure SR's motivation in his public comments, and not sure he "knows what it takes" since he's never won one at this level.
This team has great potential. This team is overly dependent on an outside game until the youngsters pan out. It'll be exciting to see the development, but expecting Final Four? Elite 8? It's great coach speak, but unless the young ones come along quickly this team isn't as good as the Final 4 or Elite 8 teams... IMHO.
Love the positive vibes and hope your takes are what develops.
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Post by beavsteve on Oct 16, 2018 22:50:03 GMT -8
Ok... give it... I've taken the heat before 🍻 But... I think there are some fans getting way, way over hyped on a team who lost its best player, has no proven inside game, and is not picked to win its conference. Not sure SR's motivation in his public comments, and not sure he "knows what it takes" since he's never won one at this level. This team has great potential. This team is overly dependent on an outside game until the youngsters pan out. It'll be exciting to see the development, but expecting Final Four? Elite 8? It's great coach speak, but unless the young ones come along quickly this team isn't as good as the Final 4 or Elite 8 teams... IMHO. Love the positive vibes and hope your takes are what develops. I don't think you read his comments carefully enough if you think he is truly expecting the final four... as in believing it will happen. He outright said he didn't know if it would happen. I heard him saying that the team is capable of it if they reach their potential. They need to know that their coach believes it can happen and they need to believe that it can happen in order to do the hard work to achieve it. You are right in that it "coach speak" and they are "positive vibes". I wouldn't expect anything less or more from him. I don't think anyone who has posted on this Board is counting on the team achieving those goals... just very pumped up about the non-zero probability of it. |
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Oct 17, 2018 7:36:45 GMT -8
One person who came by our table before the speeches began said he had been to a practice and he told Jazz he had a nickname for her; she seemed a bit uncertain about how she felt about that but was pleased when he said it was "Wow factor". Apparently he was very impressed with Ms. Simmons. Maybe thickhead was right when he said Simmons was "Pivec on steroids" and that she has an ability to attack the basket and an aggressiveness unmatched by anyone else on our team (with the exception of Slocum). The addition of her and Slocum to last year's already highly competitive group of players, will assuredly (as Rueck said) make this his most competitive team ever. To add fuel to thickhead's enthusiastic expectations for the freshman Jasmine Simmons, below is the latest Aussie basketball article that lists Jazz as the #1 Australian incoming freshman in the US for the upcoming '18-'19 season. I was not aware that Simmons' play over the past two years with the Australian national team had been limited by an injury. pickandroll.com.au/ncaa-women-2018-19-top-5-freshmen/Sapphires captain and an Under 17 World Championship All-Star in 2016, Jasmine Simmons was destined to land at a high-profile program if she so desired, and it came to pass that the NSW Country product found her way to a team in Oregon State that has been among the top sides in the nation for the last few seasons. Although Simmons is hardly undersized at 5’11, the wing plays at least a couple of inches taller than her listed height, with her outstanding athleticism complementing her well-rounded skill set. She is able to get to the rack with ease and secure unexpected rebounds which can prove vital in close games. While injury may have limited Simmons’ appearances in the green and gold, including missing last year’s Under 19 World Cup, the New South Wales star once again showed her qualities at this year’s Under 20 National Championships. She led the competition in steals whilst also finishing third for scoring with 17.4 points per game, third in assists with 4.1 per game, and eighth in rebounding with 7.3 per game as the team in sky blue came within seconds of defeating Victoria before settling for third place. |
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Post by greybeav on Oct 17, 2018 8:24:55 GMT -8
Nice catch BHF on that Jaz article, I am continually impressed with the members here finding data, articles, etc. !!!
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Oct 17, 2018 11:54:27 GMT -8
: Not sure SR's motivation in his public comments, and not sure he "knows what it takes" since he's never won one at this level. : In 2011, SR did take a team with 10 freshmen and no returning starters through an undefeated season to win the Div III National Championship at George Fox. They were picked to finish 5th in the conference that year. Completely agree that Div. III is not Div. I, but I suspect he can still draw on what he learned about the blend of talent, luck, motivation, strategy, coaching etc. that led to that outcome, and much of that is likely applicable at any level. I have been impressed with the continued ratcheting up of talent, expectations, play calling, coaching etc. from his program. It feels pretty intentional. That is what I meant by "knows what it takes". Go Beavers! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2018 13:55:23 GMT -8
: Not sure SR's motivation in his public comments, and not sure he "knows what it takes" since he's never won one at this level. : In 2011, SR did take a team with 10 freshmen and no returning starters through an undefeated season to win the Div III National Championship at George Fox. They were picked to finish 5th in the conference that year. Completely agree that Div. III is not Div. I, but I suspect he can still draw on what he learned about the blend of talent, luck, motivation, strategy, coaching etc. that led to that outcome, and much of that is likely applicable at any level. I have been impressed with the continued ratcheting up of talent, expectations, play calling, coaching etc. from his program. It feels pretty intentional. That is what I meant by "knows what it takes". Go Beavers! I was sitting here reading 2ndGen's post while squirting Easy Cheese on my saltine crackers, and I thought I'd look up the 2011 Div III Women's Basketball championship. Turns out that George Fox WASN'T the champion. For a second there I thought all the talk about a Rueck championship was just hearsay. I did track down the truth: In 2011, Coach Rueck was coaching at OSU. 2009 was his championship year: George Fox finishes perfect season
Mar 21, 2009
Associated Press
HOLLAND, Mich. -- George Fox won its first NCAA Division III women's championship Saturday, beating Washington, Mo., 60-53 behind Kristen Shielee's 17 points to finish the season at 32-0.
Elise Kuenzi added 14 points and Sage Indendi 13 for George Fox, the sixth unbeaten Division III national champion. The Bruins, of Newberg, Ore., hadn't advanced past the round of 16 before this season.
Zoe Unruh and Janice Evans scored 11 points apiece for Washington (26-5). The Bears, of St. Louis, were denied their fifth national title and first since an unprecedented four-year reign in Division III ended in 2001.
The title game was played before a crowd of 1,830 at DeVos Fieldhouse at Hope College.The WinWelcome home |
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Oct 17, 2018 19:40:13 GMT -8
In 2011, SR did take a team with 10 freshmen and no returning starters through an undefeated season to win the Div III National Championship at George Fox. They were picked to finish 5th in the conference that year. Completely agree that Div. III is not Div. I, but I suspect he can still draw on what he learned about the blend of talent, luck, motivation, strategy, coaching etc. that led to that outcome, and much of that is likely applicable at any level. I have been impressed with the continued ratcheting up of talent, expectations, play calling, coaching etc. from his program. It feels pretty intentional. That is what I meant by "knows what it takes". Go Beavers! I was sitting here reading 2ndGen's post while squirting Easy Cheese on my saltine crackers, and I thought I'd look up the 2011 Div III Women's Basketball championship. Turns out that George Fox WASN'T the champion. For a second there I thought all the talk about a Rueck championship was just hearsay. I did track down the truth: In 2011, Coach Rueck was coaching at OSU. 2009 was his championship year: George Fox finishes perfect season
Mar 21, 2009
Associated Press
HOLLAND, Mich. -- George Fox won its first NCAA Division III women's championship Saturday, beating Washington, Mo., 60-53 behind Kristen Shielee's 17 points to finish the season at 32-0.
Elise Kuenzi added 14 points and Sage Indendi 13 for George Fox, the sixth unbeaten Division III national champion. The Bruins, of Newberg, Ore., hadn't advanced past the round of 16 before this season.
Zoe Unruh and Janice Evans scored 11 points apiece for Washington (26-5). The Bears, of St. Louis, were denied their fifth national title and first since an unprecedented four-year reign in Division III ended in 2001.
The title game was played before a crowd of 1,830 at DeVos Fieldhouse at Hope College.The WinWelcome homeThanks for catching my error - you are right, it was 2009, not 2011. My bad. My fumble with year notwithstanding, my point still stands. Familiar name in the article as well - Sage Indendi. Go Beavers! |
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Oct 17, 2018 20:22:13 GMT -8
Sage is a great story. Without her the first two years of the Rueck era would have been very different, and could very well have slowed the rise of the Beavers. With her he had a proven leader on the court.
Compare the first two years to the third when Sage was injured to see the impact she had.
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