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Post by beavershoopsfan on Sept 26, 2018 8:25:45 GMT -8
Has anyone seen the Street & Smith's annual basketball yearbook as yet? If so, please check where OSU starts the season in those preseason rankings and report back to us fans in this forum. I came across the Baylor website link that is attached below. The article below reveals five teams within the top 14 for Street & Smith's annual basketball yearbook. Interesting that there is no mention in that article on the Baylor women's basketball website of which team ended Baylor's 33-2 season in '17-'18 in the Sweet Sixteen. Lots of info about how special that season was for Baylor as well as the Big-12 league and conference tournament titles that Baylor added to its rich women's basketball history. According to the article below, Street & Smith's preseason rankings include: 1) Notre Dame
2) Oregon
3) UConn
4) Baylor
14) Texasbaylorbears.com/news/2018/9/20/womens-basketball-street-smith-tabs-brown-cox-as-preseason-all-americans-wbb-ranked-no-4.aspx
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Post by bvrbooster on Sept 26, 2018 10:12:21 GMT -8
They have us at number 10, right ahead of Stanford.
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Post by lotrader on Sept 26, 2018 17:13:07 GMT -8
Baylor is an interesting team. Lauren Cox & Kalani Brown are going to be great next year. OSU poked those Bears in the tournament, and I believe that Baylor will have the best 1-2 front court in the country next year. I don't know if Baylor will have a backcourt next year with some key departures (graduation and transfers). In any case, I care more about how our front court players develop. GO BEAVS!
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Oct 8, 2018 8:08:57 GMT -8
I made the investment over the weekend and picked up this year's Street & Smith's Preseason Basketball Yearbook. The women's collegiate section was allocated a total of four pages out of the 300+-page magazine. Four PAC-12 teams are ranked in the Top 20. Of note is that the Beavers' non-conference schedule could see #1 Notre Dame (in BC), #7 South Carolina (in BC), #12 Texas A&M (in Hawaii), and #19 Duke (in Gill). Two of those non-conference games against Top 20 teams are assured, while we hope that the Beavs advance in the Vancouver Showcase tourney in late November to also face both South Carolina and Notre Dame. Factoring in another competitive PAC-12 conference schedule with games against Oregon, Stanford, Cal, Arizona State, UCLA, and USC, we may find out that the Beavers strength-of-schedule for '18-'19 is among the top 10-15 schedules in the country.
The women's basketball Top 20 for '18-'19 according to Street & Smith is as follows:
1) Notre Dame 2) Oregon 3) UConn 4) Baylor 5) Louisville 6) Mississippi State 7) South Carolina 8) Iowa 9) Maryland 10) Oregon State 11) Stanford 12) Texas A&M 13) Georgia 14) Texas 15) Missouri 16) DePaul 17) North Carolina State 18) Central Michigan 19) Duke 20) California
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Post by lotrader on Oct 8, 2018 10:16:45 GMT -8
I made the investment over the weekend and picked up this year's Street & Smith's Preseason Basketball Yearbook. The women's collegiate section was allocated a total of four pages out of the 300+-page magazine. Four PAC-12 teams are ranked in the Top 20. Of note is that the Beavers' non-conference schedule could see #1 Notre Dame (in BC), #7 South Carolina (in BC), #12 Texas A&M (in Hawaii), and #19 Duke (in Gill). Two of those non-conference games against Top 20 teams are assured, while we hope that the Beavs advance in the Vancouver Showcase tourney in late November to also face both South Carolina and Notre Dame. Factoring in another competitive PAC-12 conference schedule with games against Oregon, Stanford, Cal, Arizona State, UCLA, and USC, we may find out that the Beavers strength-of-schedule for '18-'19 is among the top 10-15 schedules in the country. The women's basketball Top 20 for '18-'19 according to Street & Smith is as follows: 1) Notre Dame 2) Oregon 3) UConn 4) Baylor 5) Louisville 6) Mississippi State 7) South Carolina 8) Iowa 9) Maryland 10) Oregon State 11) Stanford 12) Texas A&M 13) Georgia 14) Texas 15) Missouri 16) DePaul 17) North Carolina State 18) Central Michigan 19) Duke 20) CaliforniaIowa at #8? What? I'm not sure about Maryland at #9 either....Maryland is from the weakest league in America. I do appreciate that Ohio State is nowhere to be found in the top 20.
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Post by beaverwbb fan on Oct 8, 2018 10:49:07 GMT -8
Iowa and Maryland both in the Big 10. Much more of a football conference than a WBB conference. Their post, Megan Gustafson, played with Kat over the summer. She was at the top of the league in PPG and I believe led in FG%. Not sure they have the other pieces to win the Big 10 though.
I really really want to win either of the Pac-12 Championships. Clearly both would be ideal but I don’t want tsdtr to have both. I think that we will be better than expected once again. We always have these preseason question marks that are pretty much always answered.
Who will pick up the void both Hamblin and Wiesner left behind? We depended on Syd so much, who will pick up the slack? And now Gulich?
I’m quite confident this trend of finding an answer will live on.
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Post by rmancarl on Oct 8, 2018 12:29:34 GMT -8
Beaverwbb brings up an interesting question. The Lady Beavs are pretty much a consensus top 10 team in the preseason magazines, etc. What do you think? Are they really that good? beaverwbb is correct that so far, the team has always found answers in replacing those who graduate. My concern would be that last years team (which may have been my favorite of all of them) won three OT games to get the record they had, and there were times when Marie carried the team. So...is there someone who carries the team when needed this year? Is that Destiny? Is it one of the upperclassmen (woman)? Will the 'bigs' be good enough to compete with some of players they will be facing? How well would you expect our girls to hold up against the likes of Cox and Brown if we were facing Baylor?
SR seems pretty enthusiastic, and I believe that is a good sign. I'm ready to start watching games live again (Yes, I've watched a lot of replays from last season).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2018 12:45:25 GMT -8
Beaverwbb brings up an interesting question. The Lady Beavs are pretty much a consensus top 10 team in the preseason magazines, etc. What do you think? Are they really that good? beaverwbb is correct that so far, the team has always found answers in replacing those who graduate. My concern would be that last years team (which may have been my favorite of all of them) won three OT games to get the record they had, and there were times when Marie carried the team. So...is there someone who carries the team when needed this year? Is that Destiny? Is it one of the upperclassmen (woman)? Will the 'bigs' be good enough to compete with some of players they will be facing? How well would you expect our girls to hold up against the likes of Cox and Brown if we were facing Baylor? SR seems pretty enthusiastic, and I believe that is a good sign. I'm ready to start watching games live again (Yes, I've watched a lot of replays from last season). IMO no one on this year's team will be able to do what Marie did last year. Marie's combination of size, strength, and experience were what allowed her to compete head-to-head against players like Russell and Brown/Cox. While our 2 new girls have size, they don't have Marie's strength or experience. Numerous times vs Baylor and Tennessee the play of choice was to pull all other players to the perimeter to open the inside up for Marie to go one-on-one vs the other team's big. Ain't going to happen this year. However, we have Destiny Slocum. Destiny's ability to penetrate and draw the defense to her, combined with her excellent passing skills, should allow her to feed our bigs for some open shots under the hoop. If our bigs can weather being pushed around under the hoop and still get those shots off, and if on defense they can use long arms to block or disrupt inside shots, then I think it's at least possible that they can compensate for the loss of Marie. But those one-on-one plays from the center position aren't going to happen. It's going to take some deft inside passing from Slocum, with support Pivec, Goodman, McWilliams, and others to get much offensive production out of the center position. Just my opinion.
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Oct 8, 2018 12:46:01 GMT -8
Another reason for us to hope for a really successful season this year (and next) - the Moda Center in Portland is hosting the 2019 and 2020 NCAA Regionals, and it couldn't hurt to play in front of a predominantly "home" crowd - everything from hopefully having local Pacific NW talent in the crowd (Brink, Van Lith, etc) realizing they don't have to go far for basketball excellence to propelling the Beavers into the next rounds in style.....
I don't know if we get any consideration for being the sponsor/host school on the tournament hosting bid, but we can also make it a forgone conclusion, especially with the strength of schedule we will have playing (and ideally beating) 8 or 9 top-25 teams.
Go Beavers!
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 8, 2018 13:47:09 GMT -8
The season will play out, but I generally felt better having experienced "bigs" up front to carry scoring, rebounding, interior D, and "dirty work".
We can shoot it... but, great teams have the capability to turn the game into a power game in the paint when the outside isn't falling. Those teams also have the "go to" inside presence in tight games vs depending on a jumper consistently.
As of right now this team is more question marks concerning Marie's loss than known quantities. Just a couple key thoughts from my personal perspective...
Destiny COULD yield big dividends... IF shots fall on kicks and bigs can get into the position/handle the ball to finish.
AA and PM COULD develop rapidly and provide solid D. Those two and Jo COULD develop into a three-headed offensive threat to offset the loss of Marie's game.
TC COULD develop a more rounded game and also provide a slasher with size and inside board/D help.
Others can improve their games, but are who they are... mostly outside threats, with decent board numbers in support of Marie. But, vs some teams that have gone very quick and small the backcourt must be able to give Destiny support in dealing with defensive pressure or she'll wear down quickly.
I see this team losing some early games last years team wins as they grow and develop. There are lots of new, inexperienced pieces to blend. By Pac12 play this team will be in the hunt for the top 4 spots barring any major setbacks.
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Post by bennyskid on Oct 8, 2018 13:55:20 GMT -8
No, we don't get any consideration for being the "host" at Moda. If, say, Stanford is a 1-seed and we're a 2-seed, almost certainly they would get PDX and we'd get shipped east (to prevent a rematch). We got Stockton as a 2-seed because no 1-seed was from the west. (The 1's were UConn, South Carolina, Baylor, and Notre Dame.) There was some controversy, because Stanford got shipped to Lexington to play Notre Dame because ND was the "fourth" 1-seed and Stanford was the top 2-seed. The committee apparently thought that ND in Lexington was a better draw for Stanford than USC at Stockton. Maybe they were right - Stanford beat UND by a point to reach the Final Four.
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Post by 411500 on Oct 8, 2018 16:01:44 GMT -8
I don't know what to make of the "consideration" issue. If the Selection Committee is truly impartial, and sticks to the math, that's one thing. But to play to a 1/4 house in PDX because the Ducks and the Beavs have been shipped elsewhere smacks of stupidity even beyond the NCAA bracketing process.
My memory is vague on this but I remember about 2 years ago a Selection Committee spokesperson said they would try, when possible, to locate appropriate teams close to home. I think this translates to: if it's a toss up for the Beavs to go to either Lexington or Portland, then Portland would get the nod. If it's not a "toss-up" the Beavs wouldn't get the benefit of a close to home site....
At any rate, I've bought my Regional Tix at a VERY reasonable price and I'm hoping for the best....
GO BEAVS !!
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Post by blodgettbeaver on Oct 8, 2018 18:50:28 GMT -8
A true penetrating point guard can help The Bigs tremendously I think we are going to go to the next level this year.
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Post by bvrbooster on Oct 8, 2018 21:11:35 GMT -8
I think you guys might be putting too much emphasis on the post position and the loss of Marie, and not enough on the other 4 positions. At point guard, we are much better than we were last year, and have terrific depth. We now have 4 players on the roster who have played the point at the college level. At off guard, we are much better than last year because we get to move Pivec back to her natural spot, and have great depth there as well with Tudor and Simmons. We have 3 returning starters (Tudor, McDaniels, and Corosdale) who can divide time at the forward spots. We have a wonderful nucleus of players with a lot of experience, they're all a year older, and they all know how to win. They all expect to seriously contend for the PAC 12 title, and they all expect to go deep into the tournament.
I have very high hopes and expectations for this team.
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Post by Werebeaver on Oct 8, 2018 21:43:48 GMT -8
I think you guys might be putting too much emphasis on the post position and the loss of Marie, and not enough on the other 4 positions. At point guard, we are much better than we were last year, and have terrific depth. We now have 4 players on the roster who have played the point at the college level. At off guard, we are much better than last year because we get to move Pivec back to her natural spot, and have great depth there as well with Tudor and Simmons. We have 3 returning starters (Tudor, McDaniels, and Corosdale) who can divide time at the forward spots. We have a wonderful nucleus of players with a lot of experience, they're all a year older, and they all know how to win. They all expect to seriously contend for the PAC 12 title, and they all expect to go deep into the tournament. I have very high hopes and expectations for this team. Looking forward to seeing McDaniels play.
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