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Post by gart79 on Jul 2, 2018 11:21:30 GMT -8
I have not been able to keep up on all of the baseball threads.
Did anyone else think that Abel's strike zone became very favorable (for him) in the last few innings?
I thought that he may have benefited from getting strike calls for balls that were low in the zone. These were calls that it seemed like Luke was not getting in his first two starts.
I think Kevin deserved those calls since he was so consistent in his pitching. Very few of his pitches were very far off the mark.
Anyway would love to hear from those that watched more closely than I did.
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Post by jdogge on Jul 2, 2018 11:42:31 GMT -8
I have not been able to keep up on all of the baseball threads. Did anyone else think that Abel's strike zone became very favorable (for him) in the last few innings? I thought that he may have benefited from getting strike calls for balls that were low in the zone. These were calls that it seemed like Luke was not getting in his first two starts. I think Kevin deserved those calls since he was so consistent in his pitching. Very few of his pitches were very far off the mark. Anyway would love to hear from those that watched more closely than I did. Being close and having a catcher who can frame pitches helps. |
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Post by beaverdude on Jul 2, 2018 12:04:15 GMT -8
Abel talked about how Clutchman was the best catcher at "stealing strikes" in the post game press conference.....
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Post by Tigardbeav on Jul 2, 2018 12:44:46 GMT -8
In the 9th it looked as if the zone did get a bit larger. Could be Adley's way of catching the ball. He turns his wrist instead of moving his entire arm. Probably learned that from his Dad (who was a catcher).
Or perhaps Joe Burleson was itching to get to drinking. Joe has done pac 12 games so maybe we got some make up calls in relation to Greg Street.
Doesn't matter as AR was done after the 3rd bases loaded and coming up empty
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Post by bennyskid on Jul 2, 2018 12:52:15 GMT -8
Abel said, "Adley stole about 25 strikes for me." But umps have a tendency to feed a pitcher's momentum. If you are pitching well, you get more of the edge calls. That's human nature.
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Post by grackle on Jul 2, 2018 13:11:48 GMT -8
To my eyes, the game #3 ump had a consistently, and noticeably, slightly low strike zone for both OSU and Ark. No one should have much of a problem with that insofar as he called it consistently throughout the game for both teams.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jul 2, 2018 13:13:09 GMT -8
In the 9th it looked as if the zone did get a bit larger. Could be Adley's way of catching the ball. He turns his wrist instead of moving his entire arm. Probably learned that from his Dad (who was a catcher). Or perhaps Joe Burleson was itching to get to drinking. Joe has done pac 12 games so maybe we got some make up calls in relation to Greg Street. Doesn't matter as AR was done after the 3rd bases loaded and coming up empty Umpires zones tend to get bigger, when pitchers are nearing a big milestone. A perfect game, a no-hitter. A two-hit complete game shutout in the College World Series. In the eighth (or heck, the batter before) that pitch might not be a strike, but, in that situation, you have to give the pitcher the benefit of the doubt. |
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Post by mbabeav on Jul 2, 2018 14:08:03 GMT -8
In the 9th it looked as if the zone did get a bit larger. Could be Adley's way of catching the ball. He turns his wrist instead of moving his entire arm. Probably learned that from his Dad (who was a catcher). Or perhaps Joe Burleson was itching to get to drinking. Joe has done pac 12 games so maybe we got some make up calls in relation to Greg Street. Doesn't matter as AR was done after the 3rd bases loaded and coming up empty Umpires zones tend to get bigger, when pitchers are nearing a big milestone. A perfect game, a no-hitter. A two-hit complete game shutout in the College World Series. In the eighth (or heck, the batter before) that pitch might not be a strike, but, in that situation, you have to give the pitcher the benefit of the doubt. Zone also gets bigger when the opposing team can't hit - and complains about balls that are too close not to swing at when you are down by 4-5 and making faces at the umpire, who has been giving the same zone to the other team's pitchers and well, the other team is taking cuts. |
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Post by vhalum92 on Jul 2, 2018 14:14:34 GMT -8
Also please remember the complaining and ejection of the head of video games for Arkansas earlier in the game. After that several players grumbled after striking out... umpires are human and all of that adds up to, it was close and you didn't swing the bat, down 5 runs.... you make it enjoyable to ring you up on strike 3 called  If those were our batters I think we would be frustrated but at some point you have to swing the bat on a borderline ball/strike call when you are down and Arkansas simply didn't. |
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Post by nsh03 on Jul 2, 2018 16:25:16 GMT -8
It's not like the white of the other batter's box was a strike...
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jul 2, 2018 16:41:31 GMT -8
1. He was around the plate all game. Umps reward that.
2. Rutschman is great at framing the ball, and giving the ump a good look at the pitch.
3. Arkansas bitched about the strike zone all night, even after the wannabe coach was ejected. Umps are human.
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Post by Tigardbeav on Jul 2, 2018 16:54:07 GMT -8
It's not like the white of the other batter's box was a strike... Greg Street says it is too  |
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Post by EOBeav on Jul 3, 2018 7:56:02 GMT -8
To my eyes, the game #3 ump had a consistently, and noticeably, slightly low strike zone for both OSU and Ark. No one should have much of a problem with that insofar as he called it consistently throughout the game for both teams. That was my take as well. He made pitchers hit the corners, but he was generous with the call on both sides. |
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