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Post by gnawitall on Dec 19, 2015 19:11:59 GMT -8
I just heard a rumor that the last super bowl had no 5 star recruits. Anyone else hear that?
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 19, 2015 19:20:56 GMT -8
NFL mostly 2/3 star kids. You have over 1500 players, just the stats alone telll you the majority aren't the big name recruits.
It's why I'm not sure do many dissed our former staff fur going after great kids who fit their system no matter the start count.
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Post by ostate on Dec 19, 2015 19:32:44 GMT -8
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Post by nabeav on Dec 20, 2015 18:11:39 GMT -8
There just aren't that many five star rated players to begin with. I haven't done any searching, but how many are there in the entire class of 2016? 50 maybe would be my guess. I'd be willing to bet the percentage of 5 stars that turn out in the NFL is higher than the percentage of two stars.
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Post by beavsaregood on Dec 20, 2015 20:42:35 GMT -8
I'll take a 5 star over a 2/3 star. As stated earlier, not that many 5 stars to begin with. Of the 5 stars, a high percentage of those kids make it. A ton of 2/3 stars. So, yeah. You'll see more former 2/3 stars in the pros.
To me, if CGA can just get a few 4 stars and have the rest of the class be 3 stars (with very very few 2 star/NR guys), the Beavs will have a top 40-50 kind of class. That should be enough to compete. ............if CGA is a good coach. If CGA's classes fluctuate like Mike Riley's Beaver classes, then, aloha means good-bye.
Beavs shouldn't worry about getting 5 stars...do they ever get a 5 star High School All American??!! How about the coach's kid, Seumalo? Was he a five or a four? If so, that doesn't count. Coach's kid. How about that other OL (Michael Philip) that didn't do that great? I think he was a high 4, though. Not a 5? Michael Philip was definitely in demand for sure. He picked the Beavs over Stanford. Definitely a huge win for the Beavs. A legit huge recruiting win, there.
Andy Levitre was a 2 star. The only offers were the Beavs and LSU. Other two stars in Brandon Hardin and Al Afalava.
How about the Hawaiian LB that didn't pan out Akuna? He had offers from FLA St, Arky, Hole, ......3 star.
So we really don't know BUT, I'd take my chances on higher rated ones. Next, what kind of schools are offering your prospect? Do top tier teams see the same thing you see in this recruit? Or is this kid a diamond in the rough flyer (the NR to 2 Star) - basically you see something in the kid that nobody else (okay maybe the mid-majors, ivies, and academies) does.
If a five star wants to be a Beav, c'mon down! Won't happen. .......Okay, maybe.
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 20, 2015 23:26:25 GMT -8
The real point/issue is this... there are not enough 5* talents to go around to actually make a huge difference on most teams unless they are surrounded by other talent... NR, 2*, 3* doesn't matter. Most schools... 96-98% of them are not getting multiple 4/5* kids, so the recruits that matter are indeed those 2/3* kids... And of course a higher % of 5* make the NFL, it's a simple statistical imperative... there are so few that if 10 make it you are at 20-35% depending on who you believe is a 5*... but there are approximately 700+ (a very quick count) schools fielding football teams at various collegiate levels that have between 45-100+ players... do the math... how many are 2/3* or less? The coaches that can find the "diamonds in the rough" and coach them up are the ones who are the most successful... and again it's all a shell game. Just as in academics, is that "A" in Calc. from  ? the same as the "A" from !!!! (and why SAT and ACT's exist)... is every 2* or 3* created equally??? I am certainly willing to bet that kids in lets say , SEC country, that are 2/3* are more athletically gifted and warrant a higher level of recruiting interest than the 2/3* from Oregon??? Would we/OSU love to get a few 4/5* kids? Sure. But, they are no more a guarantee of success than the balance of your team being great players from the 2/3* ranks. |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Dec 24, 2015 18:55:53 GMT -8
There just aren't that many five star rated players to begin with. I haven't done any searching, but how many are there in the entire class of 2016? 50 maybe would be my guess. I'd be willing to bet the percentage of 5 stars that turn out in the NFL is higher than the percentage of two stars. 50 is very very generous. RIVALS has 23. A few other kids make it on other services I'd guess. The vast majority will go to schools with stadiums capable of seating 70k plus. Odds are 8 or 9 schools will get the bulk of them. Odds are in 2-3 years forum posters will be complaining GA chooses to ignore 5 star recruits like MR did. |
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Post by vhalum92 on Dec 28, 2015 17:32:29 GMT -8
This is an interesting topic and article. Anyone else notice that they listed Sam Bradford coming out of Alabama, oops.
My first thought was interesting but not very relevant. I thought a 5 star kid was someone ready to immediately help the college team. They are ready to go from day 1. Body size is right, have the skills and the speed and the knowledge.
If your trying to make the jump to getting drafted.... well now the other kids have 3-5 years to physically and mentally grow/mature.
The math/statics above also explain the other side of this one.... I wish they would rank recruiting classes on team need with the players that have committed. Us getting a 3 star qb as a freshman should boost this class... we need him for the next 4-5 years (just one example). I also like all the bodies we are collecting on Def in the 2016 class as well.
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? the same as the "A" from !!!! (and why SAT and ACT's exist)... is every 2* or 3* created equally??? I am certainly willing to bet that kids in lets say , SEC country, that are 2/3* are more athletically gifted and warrant a higher level of recruiting interest than the 2/3* from Oregon???