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Post by Bodhisattva on Apr 6, 2024 7:52:54 GMT -8
MBABeav mentioned previously that our championship runs had players that stepped up and became leaders in the clubhouse. So far this year, I haven't seen it on this team. I was a little worried to start the season that Bazzana wouldn't be the leader, even though he should be the guy. This is starting to look more like a team that past Beaver teams feasted on and that worries me. I think this is where we need Mitch to step up and challenge a player(s) to be that guy.
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Post by irimi on Apr 6, 2024 8:11:39 GMT -8
MBABeav mentioned previously that our championship runs had players that stepped up and became leaders in the clubhouse. So far this year, I haven't seen it on this team. I was a little worried to start the season that Bazzana wouldn't be the leader, even though he should be the guy. This is starting to look more like a team that past Beaver teams feasted on and that worries me. I think this is where we need Mitch to step up and challenge a player(s) to be that guy. The Bazzana-Turley fiasco hasn't inspired much confidence in the "leaders" on this team or the coaching. We'll see what happens the rest of the weekend.
Looks like they're trying to spell 'team' with a capital 'I'.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Apr 6, 2024 8:18:24 GMT -8
And all this time I thought we were 24-4, despite losing our starting CF, RF and 3B to injuries for varying stretches of the season. Think what we could be if we weren't a rudderless, leaderless team.
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Post by ag87 on Apr 6, 2024 8:24:22 GMT -8
MBABeav mentioned previously that our championship runs had players that stepped up and became leaders in the clubhouse. So far this year, I haven't seen it on this team. I was a little worried to start the season that Bazzana wouldn't be the leader, even though he should be the guy. This is starting to look more like a team that past Beaver teams feasted on and that worries me. I think this is where we need Mitch to step up and challenge a player(s) to be that guy. The Bazzana-Turley fiasco hasn't inspired much confidence in the "leaders" on this team or the coaching. We'll see what happens the rest of the weekend.
Looks like they're trying to spell 'team' with a capital 'I'.
A couple of guys on this team need to watch the original version of The Bad News Bears. We've got our own Kelly and Tanner. |
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Post by zeroposter on Apr 6, 2024 8:25:26 GMT -8
Travis is one of the team leaders. It is total bulls%#t that there are no leaders. Things can get heated between teammates on any team especially after a couple of rough games.
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Post by zeroposter on Apr 6, 2024 8:34:21 GMT -8
Kwan and Grenier were roommates and good friends as well as team leaders. Near the end of their final season, Grenier called for a very high pop-up just out of the infield. Camped under it. Kwan came all the way in and took the ball. Grenier let Kwan know in the dugout as well as on the field NO. s%#t happens. Better to air it out and not simmer.
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Post by beaverbeliever71 on Apr 6, 2024 9:00:42 GMT -8
MBABeav mentioned previously that our championship runs had players that stepped up and became leaders in the clubhouse. So far this year, I haven't seen it on this team. I was a little worried to start the season that Bazzana wouldn't be the leader, even though he should be the guy. This is starting to look more like a team that past Beaver teams feasted on and that worries me. I think this is where we need Mitch to step up and challenge a player(s) to be that guy. The Bazzana-Turley fiasco hasn't inspired much confidence in the "leaders" on this team or the coaching. We'll see what happens the rest of the weekend.
Looks like they're trying to spell 'team' with a capital 'I'.
I guess I missed something. What happened with Turley and Bazzana? |
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Post by beavaristotle on Apr 6, 2024 9:30:01 GMT -8
There are different types of leadership, a team can have a few different types and still be missing another type. There are guys who quietly lead by example, guys who pump guys up and are encouraging. Sometimes you need a guy who is kinda a prick and willing to dress someone down, almost a sheriff. From the outside it looks like that’s the type of leadership we are missing.
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Post by richard44 on Apr 6, 2024 10:05:24 GMT -8
No leaders on this team? Really? We are 24-4 and have had to overcome probably the worst injury riddled season I can remember for Beaver baseball. We have scored over ten runs a game three straight games and just beat a team that swept Cal last weekend. I just don’t buy that this team lacks leadership. Where is this idea coming from? Am I missing something?
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Post by messi on Apr 6, 2024 10:22:37 GMT -8
The Bazzana-Turley fiasco hasn't inspired much confidence in the "leaders" on this team or the coaching. We'll see what happens the rest of the weekend.
Looks like they're trying to spell 'team' with a capital 'I'.
I guess I missed something. What happened with Turley and Bazzana? Pop fly in right, both converged, calling for it. Bazzana eventually stopped, but didn’t make an attempt to catch the ball. Turley was blocked by Bazzana from being able to catch the ball after Bazzana had stopped. It lead to a run. |
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Post by messi on Apr 6, 2024 10:23:49 GMT -8
There are different types of leadership, a team can have a few different types and still be missing another type. There are guys who quietly lead by example, guys who pump guys up and are encouraging. Sometimes you need a guy who is kinda a prick and willing to dress someone down, almost a sheriff. From the outside it looks like that’s the type of leadership we are missing. Bazzana and Turley had a disagreement, and Coach Wong had to intervene. |
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Post by Bodhisattva on Apr 6, 2024 10:59:57 GMT -8
No leaders on this team? Really? We are 24-4 and have had to overcome probably the worst injury riddled season I can remember for Beaver baseball. We have scored over ten runs a game three straight games and just beat a team that swept Cal last weekend. I just don’t buy that this team lacks leadership. Where is this idea coming from? Am I missing something? You can be a very good team and not have good leadership. We need a guy to initiate a players only meeting when things seem out of sync, to keep guys loose when the moment is tense, and to confront a player or players when they make coachable mistakes. You don't have to be the best player to be the leader, but it helps. I looked at games like Arkansas, and saw an entire team press with Hagen on the mound. We needed a leader to get the team to relax. ASU game looked disorganized. USC looked disinterested and disorganized. This team is good enough to make it to Omaha on talent alone. They are currently not good enough to win in Omaha. That doesn't mean they can't improve. To beat the best teams, you need more than talent alone. It appears from the outside that we are winning just because we are the most talented of the teams we play. I easily could be completely wrong, and I'm not privy to some of the inner workings on the team. I'm basically just watching body language and how the team responds to each other. |
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Post by beaver1989 on Apr 6, 2024 11:26:09 GMT -8
MBABeav mentioned previously that our championship runs had players that stepped up and became leaders in the clubhouse. So far this year, I haven't seen it on this team. I was a little worried to start the season that Bazzana wouldn't be the leader, even though he should be the guy. This is starting to look more like a team that past Beaver teams feasted on and that worries me. I think this is where we need Mitch to step up and challenge a player(s) to be that guy. The Bazzana-Turley fiasco hasn't inspired much confidence in the "leaders" on this team or the coaching. We'll see what happens the rest of the weekend.
Looks like they're trying to spell 'team' with a capital 'I'.
Speak for yourself. I see it differently. That ball was a RF ball all the way and if I was Turley there is no way in hell, I'm Not confronting Bazz. |
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Post by irimi on Apr 6, 2024 11:31:16 GMT -8
The Bazzana-Turley fiasco hasn't inspired much confidence in the "leaders" on this team or the coaching. We'll see what happens the rest of the weekend.
Looks like they're trying to spell 'team' with a capital 'I'.
Speak for yourself. I see it differently. That ball was a RF ball all the way and if I was Turley there is no way in hell, I'm Not confronting Bazz. I admit that I don’t completely understand your post, but I’m intrigued with why, if you were Turley, you wouldn’t confront Bazz, especially if you see it as a RF ball all the way. That’s not leadership; that’s bullying. |
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Post by zeroposter on Apr 6, 2024 11:54:57 GMT -8
Speak for yourself. I see it differently. That ball was a RF ball all the way and if I was Turley there is no way in hell, I'm Not confronting Bazz. I admit that I don’t completely understand your post, but I’m intrigued with why, if you were Turley, you wouldn’t confront Bazz, especially if you see it as a RF ball all the way. That’s not leadership; that’s bullying. i Even in MLB, that situation occurs, the RF is going to let the 2nd baseman know the 2B guy screwed up in no uncertain terms. It is career-ending possibility present. |
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