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Post by beaverinohio on Mar 12, 2024 14:17:31 GMT -8
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 12, 2024 14:57:17 GMT -8
There is no Third Team. Pope should have made Second Team over Boogie Ellis. I get that Ellis is now 104 and has played in the Pac-12 for the last eight decades, but.......... Pope is better. Pope should have been Second Team, and Bilodeau should have received Honorable Mention. |
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Post by beaverinohio on Mar 12, 2024 16:14:30 GMT -8
There is no Third Team. Pope should have made Second Team over Boogie Ellis. I get that Ellis is now 104 and has played in the Pac-12 for the last eight decades, but.......... Pope is better. Pope should have been Second Team, and Bilodeau should have received Honorable Mention. I stand corrected, though the list I saw first team did have 10 guys on it. Boogie and Jordan had pretty similar stats overall. Not sure about just in conference. Probably can make a good case for either, but as I said I’m a little surprised Jordan wasn’t “third team.” Tyler definitely should have been honorable mention. Really stepped up his game in conference. |
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Post by rgeorge on Mar 12, 2024 18:23:56 GMT -8
There is no Third Team. Pope should have made Second Team over Boogie Ellis. I get that Ellis is now 104 and has played in the Pac-12 for the last eight decades, but.......... Pope is better. Pope should have been Second Team, and Bilodeau should have received Honorable Mention. I stand corrected, though the list I saw first team did have 10 guys on it. Boogie and Jordan had pretty similar stats overall. Not sure about just in conference. Probably can make a good case for either, but as I said I’m a little surprised Jordan wasn’t “third team.” Tyler definitely should have been honorable mention. Really stepped up his game in conference. Ellis is a much better all-around player as he plays defense. Plus, not really comparable as he's more a true PG. |
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Post by beaverinohio on Mar 12, 2024 19:10:38 GMT -8
Who picks the all-con teams — media or coaches? I could see the coaches being a little kinder to Pope and Tyler. Not sure how knowledgeable all the media is about players outside their pods.
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Post by speakthetruth on Mar 13, 2024 7:27:23 GMT -8
If Pope wasn't playing on a last place team he probably would have fared better in the player rankings.
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Post by beaverbeliever on Mar 13, 2024 9:19:03 GMT -8
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Mar 13, 2024 13:48:39 GMT -8
Who picks the all-con teams — media or coaches? I could see the coaches being a little kinder to Pope and Tyler. Not sure how knowledgeable all the media is about players outside their pods. Coaches vote. |
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Post by beaverinohio on Mar 13, 2024 17:56:36 GMT -8
I think we got a glimpse in the first two games of tournament why Boogie got 2nd team and Jordan got honorable mention. Boogie gets 25 points (9-15, 5-10), 3 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 steals and his team won. Pope gets 16 points (6-16, 3-8), 2 rebounds, 3 assist, 2 steals and his team lost. Winning matters even for individual awards.
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Post by rgeorge on Mar 13, 2024 18:03:22 GMT -8
I think we got a glimpse in the first two games of tournament why Boogie got 2nd team and Jordan got honorable mention. Boogie gets 25 points (9-15, 5-10), 3 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 steals and his team won. Pope gets 16 points (6-16, 3-8), 2 rebounds, 3 assist, 2 steals and his team lost. Winning matters even for individual awards. And Ellis plays D... coaches know who is an all-around/good player. Pope is a good kid, but he's basically a "one trick pony". |
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