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Post by eorbeav on Mar 8, 2024 19:09:22 GMT -8
I think a 3rd place finish in the Pac when you were picked to finish 10th is something to build on. Especially when the Beavs are so young!! That being said I will be rooting for whoever plays against the trees in the final.
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Post by Werebeaver on Mar 8, 2024 19:11:04 GMT -8
In the end it kinda looked like you’d expect a #2 vs #13 (national rankings) matchup on a neutral court to look.
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Post by beaverstever on Mar 8, 2024 19:13:34 GMT -8
They lost, so that's the way it is. But, where were the 4-5 obvious calls against Beers?! If anything, you would think the refs would be looking out for her after the horrible foul that broke her nose. Guess not. WTF? Refs are horrible in many cases, but as Don's dad said they aren't one sided. Beers got more "beneficial" calls than ever. OSU's bigs shot 5x the FTAs than Brink + Iriafen (1/2 total). OSU lost because Stanford was the better team. Tara said "beat us with jumpers" and OSU couldn't. Brink & Iriafen were 14/36 from the field and still had the depth to win. Jump, scoreless vs Cal had 20 tonight. TVO was lost and Scott didn't change assignments until too late. Demetre also with 10 huge 2nd half points. Stanford has been here done that so many times. OSU not so much. They never changed emotion down double digits. They just know how to stay focused and stick to a game plan. OSU is the 3rd (tied in regular and with loser of the next game) best team in the best conference. That's something. Rueck said 'beat us with jumpers' as well, and they did. That said, OSU missed a lot of good looks that they were hitting in the first half. It felt like fatigue may have beat us on those. But Stanford also forced a lot of tough looks. OSU did as well, but Stanford was able to hit some of those. Indeed they are simply better. I believe OSU can beat them, but it will take the some special play - an average day by both teams will definitely go Stanfords way.
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Post by grayman on Mar 8, 2024 19:15:32 GMT -8
I think a 3rd place finish in the Pac when you were picked to finish 10th is something to build on. Especially when the Beavs are so young!! A team with Beers, Gardiner and TVO should have never been picked 10th in the first place. It was based solely on the 2022-23 season and that wasn't representative of Gardiner or TVO's abilities. Yeah, the freshmen have played beyond their years but Hunter was a 4-star recruit. Third (fourth?) in this year's Pac-12 is still a great accomplishment and I still think OSU at full strength is probably the second-best team in the conference (and that's with a very inconsistent offense).
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Post by speakthetruth on Mar 8, 2024 19:29:31 GMT -8
Bottom line the better coach with the better team won. Some can blame the refs if you want but it's not the reason. Too much standing around on offense frankly the whole game was the major reason.
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Post by bdudbeaver on Mar 8, 2024 19:32:54 GMT -8
If I take off my orange-colored glasses, and reflect back, I think you have to be happy with the season. It looked so easy for the Beavs in the 1st quarter. The high screen and ball movement were great. Gardiner caught fire. But, shots stop falling, and the grind begins. We were not quite up to the grind with Stanford, maybe due to the 2OT game, or maybe other reasons. I think the calls were fair, maybe inconsistent, but what you expect from Pac-12 refs.
There are 3 good bigs in the conference: Brink, Betts, and Beers. Remember Raegan is a sophomore. You can build a team around her. Gardiner is so improved. I think she can be Maurice Lucas on the 77 Blazers. Donovyn gives us everything we need. I just think 2-4 (backup 4) need more consistency, and that is what we need to work on for next year. There's a reason the top teams have 4th and 5th year seniors.
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Post by Werebeaver on Mar 8, 2024 19:34:28 GMT -8
I think a 3rd place finish in the Pac when you were picked to finish 10th is something to build on. Especially when the Beavs are so young!! A team with Beers, Gardiner and TVO should have never been picked 10th in the first place. It was based solely on the 2022-23 season and that wasn't representative of Gardiner or TVO's abilities. Yeah, the freshmen have played beyond their years but Hunter was a 4-star recruit. Third (fourth?) in this year's Pac-12 is still a great accomplishment and I still think OSU at full strength is probably the second-best team in the conference (and that's with a very inconsistent offense). Yeah, what the hell do Pac-12 head coaches know? Certainly not as much as internet message board posters. Team (First-Place Votes) Points 1.Utah (7) 116 2.UCLA (3) 109 3.Stanford (2) 100 4.Colorado 90 5.Washington State 84 6.USC 70 7.Arizona 51 8.Oregon 49 9.Washington 46 10.Oregon State 43
11.California 22 12.Arizona State 12 Hey, they got ASU right
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Post by grayman on Mar 8, 2024 19:41:17 GMT -8
A team with Beers, Gardiner and TVO should have never been picked 10th in the first place. It was based solely on the 2022-23 season and that wasn't representative of Gardiner or TVO's abilities. Yeah, the freshmen have played beyond their years but Hunter was a 4-star recruit. Third (fourth?) in this year's Pac-12 is still a great accomplishment and I still think OSU at full strength is probably the second-best team in the conference (and that's with a very inconsistent offense). Yeah, what the hell do Pac-12 head coaches know? Certainly not as much as internet message board posters. They knew so much that they were pretty far off the mark. I never thought the Beavers were going to finish that low. But to be fair, how many of those picking were actually the coaches? Plus, that was a poll of coaches and media members. And they picked Utah to win the conference.
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Post by eorbeav on Mar 8, 2024 19:45:16 GMT -8
If I take off my orange-colored glasses, and reflect back, I think you have to be happy with the season. It looked so easy for the Beavs in the 1st quarter. The high screen and ball movement were great. Gardiner caught fire. But, shots stop falling, and the grind begins. We were not quite up to the grind with Stanford, maybe due to the 2OT game, or maybe other reasons. I think the calls were fair, maybe inconsistent, but what you expect from Pac-12 refs.[br There are 3 good bigs in the conference: Brink, Betts, and Beers. Remember Raegan is a sophomore. You can build a team around her. Gardiner is so improved. I think she can be Maurice Lucas on the 77 Blazers. Donovyn gives us everything we need. I just think 2-4 (backup 4) need more consistency, and that is what we need to work on for next year. There's a reason the top teams have 4th and 5th year seniors. Well said
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Post by bdudbeaver on Mar 8, 2024 19:47:23 GMT -8
One last comment. I have not watched Brink all that much, but she is very aware and seeks opportunities. How, when there are breakdowns, what we used to call "garbage" buckets to be picked up, she is the one that gets them? It is just court and game awareness. A bit of a scrounger, which I have to admire.
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Post by Werebeaver on Mar 8, 2024 19:49:02 GMT -8
Yeah, what the hell do Pac-12 head coaches know? Certainly not as much as internet message board posters. They knew so much that they were pretty far off the mark. I never thought the Beavers were going to finish that low. But to be fair, how many of those picking were actually the coaches? It was the Coaches' Poll, so 12. Beavs were picked 9th in the Media Poll. Care to provide a link to your preseason conference rankings? I don't remember seeing them back in October. I mean this isn't just an exercise in 20/20 retrospective prognostication, surely not.
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Post by rgeorge on Mar 8, 2024 19:55:39 GMT -8
If I take off my orange-colored glasses, and reflect back, I think you have to be happy with the season. It looked so easy for the Beavs in the 1st quarter. The high screen and ball movement were great. Gardiner caught fire. But, shots stop falling, and the grind begins. We were not quite up to the grind with Stanford, maybe due to the 2OT game, or maybe other reasons. I think the calls were fair, maybe inconsistent, but what you expect from Pac-12 refs. There are 3 good bigs in the conference: Brink, Betts, and Beers. Remember Raegan is a sophomore. You can build a team around her. Gardiner is so improved. I think she can be Maurice Lucas on the 77 Blazers. Donovyn gives us everything we need. I just think 2-4 (backup 4) need more consistency, and that is what we need to work on for next year. There's a reason the top teams have 4th and 5th year seniors. I'll only disagree on one minor point... (3) true. But, Iriafen is much MUCH better than Betts. Betts is average, tall and very weak.
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Post by grad1973 on Mar 8, 2024 20:00:18 GMT -8
This game was our game to win…. Very disappointing but only because the kids were to star struck to kick stanfords ass.
These kids dont realize yet they were the better team in e very faze! Lets prove it in NCAA’s
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Post by grayman on Mar 8, 2024 20:00:40 GMT -8
They knew so much that they were pretty far off the mark. I never thought the Beavers were going to finish that low. But to be fair, how many of those picking were actually the coaches? Care to provide a link to your preseason conference rankings? I don't remember seeing them back in October. I mean this isn't just an exercise in 20/20 retrospective prognostication, surely not. Oh, so clever. Of course I didn't make a Pac-12 preseason list. Did you think OSU was going to finish 10th? I'm so sure you did. And if you did, you were way off. As I added to my post after you posted this response, the predictions were made by the coaches (supposedly) and media members. And they picked Utah to win it. How dare I imply that maybe the Beavers were better than 10th going in based on the players they had. That's impossible for a mere message board commenter to do! You have to coach the game. Or be the team's social media person. Or a media member. LOL. If you have a problem with me, maybe don't die on this hill. Counter my posts about OSU's offense or something.
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Post by nwhoopfan on Mar 8, 2024 20:04:17 GMT -8
A team with Beers, Gardiner and TVO should have never been picked 10th in the first place. It was based solely on the 2022-23 season and that wasn't representative of Gardiner or TVO's abilities. Yeah, the freshmen have played beyond their years but Hunter was a 4-star recruit. Third (fourth?) in this year's Pac-12 is still a great accomplishment and I still think OSU at full strength is probably the second-best team in the conference (and that's with a very inconsistent offense). Yeah, what the hell do Pac-12 head coaches know? Certainly not as much as internet message board posters. Team (First-Place Votes) Points 1.Utah (7) 116 2.UCLA (3) 109 3.Stanford (2) 100 4.Colorado 90 5.Washington State 84 6.USC 70 7.Arizona 51 8.Oregon 49 9.Washington 46 10.Oregon State 43
11.California 22 12.Arizona State 12 Hey, they got ASU right Didn't even get ASU right, Oregon beat them to the cellar.
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