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Post by speakthetruth on Jan 1, 2024 18:23:01 GMT -8
Why isn't it a penalty for hands to the face when the running back literally pushes the helmet off the defenders head?
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Post by lebaneaver on Jan 1, 2024 18:29:34 GMT -8
Why isn't it a penalty for hands to the face when the running back literally pushes the helmet off the defenders head? I’ve seen it called, but rarely. Should be called JUST as often as D face mask penalty.
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Post by avidbeaver on Jan 1, 2024 18:42:21 GMT -8
Why isn't it a penalty for hands to the face when the running back literally pushes the helmet off the defenders head? I think it is because the player didn't grab and pull the facemask. When stiff arming the defender, the player is pushing the helmet. If the RB grabs and pulls the facemask or just grabs it then it is a penalty. Pushing the helmet off is part of stiff arming.
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Post by kersting13 on Jan 1, 2024 19:43:37 GMT -8
Why isn't it a penalty for hands to the face when the running back literally pushes the helmet off the defenders head? I think it is because the player didn't grab and pull the facemask. When stiff arming the defender, the player is pushing the helmet. If the RB grabs and pulls the facemask or just grabs it then it is a penalty. Pushing the helmet off is part of stiff arming. This is the correct answer about why it isn't a facemark penalty, but it doesn't answer the legitimate question about why it's not considered "hands to the face". If a player without the ball does this, it's a penalty. Not knowing the letter of the rule, I can only assume that there is some exception for a ball carrier.
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Post by avidbeaver on Jan 1, 2024 21:27:40 GMT -8
I think it is because the player didn't grab and pull the facemask. When stiff arming the defender, the player is pushing the helmet. If the RB grabs and pulls the facemask or just grabs it then it is a penalty. Pushing the helmet off is part of stiff arming. This is the correct answer about why it isn't a facemark penalty, but it doesn't answer the legitimate question about why it's not considered "hands to the face". If a player without the ball does this, it's a penalty. Not knowing the letter of the rule, I can only assume that there is some exception for a ball carrier. The player with the ball is the only one who can stiff arm a defender. The can push on the helmet without grabbing the face mask. Has always been that way.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jan 1, 2024 23:19:58 GMT -8
I think it is because the player didn't grab and pull the facemask. When stiff arming the defender, the player is pushing the helmet. If the RB grabs and pulls the facemask or just grabs it then it is a penalty. Pushing the helmet off is part of stiff arming. This is the correct answer about why it isn't a facemark penalty, but it doesn't answer the legitimate question about why it's not considered "hands to the face". If a player without the ball does this, it's a penalty. Not knowing the letter of the rule, I can only assume that there is some exception for a ball carrier. This is correct. A runner with the football cannot commit an illegal hands to the face penalty. A runner can be called for a facemask, though. The call is primarily one to make sure that blockers or players trying to beat a block do not contact the other player's head.
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Post by ee1990 on Jan 1, 2024 23:34:37 GMT -8
Why isn't it a penalty for hands to the face when the running back literally pushes the helmet off the defenders head? The NFL has started fining offensive players for things like this but they still aren't calling them as penalties.
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